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MMAisGod said:
Also @what-wut I noticed something in the Master Rank that I think you mentioned recently. I started playing ranked the other day more to get a better feel for SF6 Ranked and shot up to Master pretty quick lol. But in Master itself, I noticed there's a big gap between the players who are like 25-26k Master, and high points Master. Like the people with say 25500 points and 40 hours in ranked, don't even feel better than the 5 Star Diamond players gate keeping each other to get in. But the players at about over 30k feel more solid. If that makes sense. I actually enjoyed it though so I think I'll start playing it a lot more now.
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who is the highest player you faced so far? Since you're in master do you have a shot at playing again Mister Crimson?
 
what-wut said:
I know the second and third round guys assuming I win, so I'm gonna watch some footage on the matchup maybe look a bit at the frame data but I think I'm not gonna play any matches until the tournament.
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going in with Gief?
 
OnionKnight86 said:
who is the highest player you faced so far? Since you're in master do you have a shot at playing again Mister Crimson?
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Someone at like 47k so far I faced. Best I've beaten is a Jamie that was 39k and 36k Marisa, but a lot of people in 25-30k I fight which has been most of my matches probably because I'm in the range. I fought the pro MK player FullAuto Blanka like 4x already who is like 40k and got destroyed though lol so I'm not too sure what the algorithm is.
 
Crimson Fury said:
Ever think about using a higher tier character like Luke, JP, etc for bad matchups?
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I'm waiting for Akuma. My main issue right now is stopping drive rush consistently I feel like you need crazy reaction speed vs some top characters.
 
what-wut said:
I'm waiting for Akuma. My main issue right now is stopping drive rush consistently I feel like you need crazy reaction speed vs some top characters.
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Unfortunately, he's the last one to be released so it'll be a while. What about Ken?

Reacting to a "teleporting" Dee Jay would be very difficult, lol.
 
Crimson Fury said:
Unfortunately, he's the last one to be released so it'll be a while. What about Ken?

Reacting to a "teleporting" Dee Jay would be very difficult, lol.
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Honestly I can't be bothered to put in the time with another character lol Akuma is different cause he's one of my favorites. As it is I barely do any lab work with Gief and definitely need to watch more footage of pros playing him.
 
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Crimson Fury said:
Reacting to a "teleporting" Dee Jay would be very difficult, lol.
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Even if you manage to stop Dr more often somehow, the damage is negligible enough that's it's still worth it for them to keep going for it.
 
OnionKnight86 said:
The game just knows you work so hard with Gief that they give you high rankings with other characters ...Plus you're just good at the game as well
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Not really. It's just easier to rank in this game than others.

Only got Gold with Chun-Li. She's the hardest character that I've tried so far. Haven't tried Sim yet.
 
Can't remember if it was posted here but y'all saw that clip that Gief has a longer time recovering from Burnout than everyone else? Everyone has a standard burnout recovery but Gief has 25% longer burnout recovery. If it was high health related you'd think Marisa and Honda would have a slower recovery too but they don't. Not sure what the deal is there.
 
MMAisGod said:
Can't remember if it was posted here but y'all saw that clip that Gief has a longer time recovering from Burnout than everyone else? Everyone has a standard burnout recovery but Gief has 25% longer burnout recovery. If it was high health related you'd think Marisa and Honda would have a slower recovery too but they don't. Not sure what the deal is there.
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<{hfved}>
 
I think I figured something out that helps just a little bit with the top characters that drive rush a lot.
there are three ranges

1- far enough that it's relatively easy to react to and punish
2- close enough that any normal of yours will stop it.
3- roughly the round start range or just a little bit closer, this range is the problematic range my current guess is just defend or parry I really don't know what to do here other than that. I also try and avoid this range for as much as possible against the top characters like juri and ken.
 
MMAisGod said:
Can't remember if it was posted here but y'all saw that clip that Gief has a longer time recovering from Burnout than everyone else? Everyone has a standard burnout recovery but Gief has 25% longer burnout recovery. If it was high health related you'd think Marisa and Honda would have a slower recovery too but they don't. Not sure what the deal is there.
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Yeah, I figured that out. There were times when I was still trying to be aggressive with Gief during that state and I'm thinking, "WTF? I'm still in burnout?!"
 
what-wut said:
I think I figured something out that helps just a little bit with the top characters that drive rush a lot.
there are three ranges

1- far enough that it's relatively easy to react to and punish
2- close enough that any normal of yours will stop it.
3- roughly the round start range or just a little bit closer, this range is the problematic range my current guess is just defend or parry I really don't know what to do here other than that. I also try and avoid this range for as much as possible against the top characters like juri and ken.
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Yep, #3 is the neutral-breaking range for some characters like Deejay or Juri type DRs. There is no footsies, no neutral in this range. As the "other" character, your main goal is pretty much to not be hit by the DR, so you have to do something quick to get out the range or they get a free hit or free pressure on you. Easily my biggest complaint alongside the corner game for SF6.

Crimson Fury said:
Yeah, I figured that out. There were times when I was still trying to be aggressive with Gief during that state and I'm thinking, "WTF? I'm still in burnout?!"
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I'm wondering what is even the point though. It's not like Gief is some top tier slaughterhouse, so it seems like a nerf just for the sake of it lol.
 
IF ANYONE JUST CAUGHT PUNK'S STREAM I ALMOST ENDED HIS 22 FIGHT WIN STREAK IN RANKED AND LOST BECAUSE I DROPPED MY LEVEL 3 COMBO BEING ULTRA NERVOUS IN THE FINAL ROUND AND HE PUNISHED ME FOR IT AND WON LOL YOOOOOOOOOO HAHA!
 
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