Crime Ferris Mueller's Election Off (Mueller thread v. 24)

[foxnoob]

setting up all kind of traps to find some contradiction, no matter how small and unrelated, then blow it up to a scandal

I agree with your solid description of the special counsel lead by Ken Starr.

 

[Bloody Pulp]

All?
Is there a comprehensive list available of his witness cooperators?

Seems like all the “big” ones with any connection to Trump.

 

[Shoemaker]

Nothing illegal was done and even if it was, I didn't do it. All the people I've hired have been the best, most honest people until they stop serving my interests

This guy hires a lot of weak-ass baristas for important jobs. I think he has a talent acquisition problem.

 

[KaNesDeath]

setting up all kind of traps to find some contradiction,

Mueller setup a congressional inquiry that was lead by republicans?

 

[Quipling]

The fact that all of Mueller’s “witnesses” have already been charged with lying under oath I’m not sure how helpful they would be to him moving forward.

It's a problem but not a big one. You usually cure that with the same way you proved that they were lying: a bunch of corroborating evidence.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Seems like all the “big” ones with any connection to Trump.

True enough.
The defense would be to portray them all as liars and therefore untrustworthy.
But if they can corroborate each other's stories with material evidence like phone, text and email records as well as non government witnesses and the testimony of federal agents...

The case is a mountain to climb

 

[Bloody Pulp]

True enough.
The defense would be to portray them all as liars and therefore untrustworthy.
But if they can corroborate each other's stories with material evidence like phone, text and email records as well as non government witnesses and the testimony of federal agents...

The case is a mountain to climb

If they have all that other evidence they’d be better off leaving the tainted witnesses out of it lest they cast their taint cloud over the evidence too in a juries mind.

 

[*Z*]

But the passionate Canadian Trump haters...they cool.

Who are they? I didn't notice there were any.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

If they have all that other evidence they’d be better off leaving the tainted witnesses out of it lest they cast their taint cloud over the evidence too in a juries mind.

I get the feeling that the evidence both direct and circumstantial will be a goddamned frag grenade dropped into Donny Moscow's lap

 

[xcvbn]

True enough.
The defense would be to portray them all as liars and therefore untrustworthy.
But if they can corroborate each other's stories with material evidence like phone, text and email records as well as non government witnesses and the testimony of federal agents...

The case is a mountain to climb

I think their testimony is pretty bunk but if they have physical evidence or can corroborate evidence in meticulous detail then it could be help.

At this point though I'm not entirely convinced that Cohen isnt still working for Trump. He made some pretty damning statements in there but it could be beneficial to the defense that a liar makes the claim before the prosecution.

 

[*Z*]

Where do we need to build a wall to keep the gypsies out?

 

[HereticBD]

Who are they? I didn't notice there were any.

Of course you didn't, sweetheart. They're on your team. Why would you care to know about such trivial details?

For starters, how 'bout @JosephDredd and @MikeMcMann. Two of the more prominent Canadian TDS sufferers.

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

It's a problem but not a big one. You usually cure that with the same way you proved that they were lying: a bunch of corroborating evidence.

These retards left giant electronic paper trails. Look at Corsi who thought he could just delete emails from his pc and be set (Corsi deleted all his emails after the Dossier story broke iirc)

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

WHAT DID JOHN MILLER KNOW, AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT??

 

[HockeyBjj]

So, the plea is directly related to not shutting down discussions for building a Trump hotel in Russia as soon as they originally claimed into Trump's candidacy?

Nothing in this Cohen development about any assistance or rigging for the election?

 

[Shoemaker]

So, the plea is directly related to not shutting down discussions for building a Trump hotel in Russia as soon as they originally claimed into Trump's candidacy?

Nothing in this Cohen development about any assistance or rigging for the election?

Just yet another instance of "why are you lying about it so much?"

 

[HockeyBjj]

Just yet another instance of "why are you lying about it so much?"

Yep. It's still very much that

Would Trump still making some amount of business decisions for Trump Co. In June of 2016 be illegal at all in and of itself? Or was it just their lies to avoid damaging pr result in this perjury trap on their hands now?

 

[sickc0d3r]

setting up all kind of traps to find some contradiction, no matter how small and unrelated, then blow it up to a scandal

That's an interesting way to say "Trump is incapable of being honest".

 

[Strychnine]

Rudy Giuliani just verified that the answers President Trump gave corroborated what Cohen just admitted to in court.


27D chess on the part of Mueller...

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

So, the plea is directly related to not shutting down discussions for building a Trump hotel in Russia as soon as they originally claimed into Trump's candidacy?

Nothing in this Cohen development about any assistance or rigging for the election?

My hunch is this - we know Mueller asked tRUmp directly about Tower meeting 2016

Cohen knows about tower meeting.

Cohen also per the criminal information discussed Moscow location for tRUmp tower in June 2016 same month as the tRUmp tower NY meeting. I'm guessing they're somehow connected and Mueller knows that