Crime Ferris Mueller's Election Off (Mueller thread v. 24)

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To which Trump has already countered that Cohen is just lying to give the counsel what they want. It's obvious BS but perhaps a reasonable accusation, considering Cohen is admitting to lying in the first place.

Despite the elation of Reddit comment sections there needs to be more to indict. Perhaps a witness who isn't a known lying sleazeball or some audio tapes confirming Trump's knowledge and intent to obstruct.
There won't be any. Sounds like there's a really tight circumstantial case being built.
 
There won't be any. Sounds like there's a really tight circumstantial case being built.
Pretty unfortunate because it's obvious these people are completely guilty. But you gotta hand it to these sacks of shit- they're managing to keep their stories well enough together. Big question is gonna be if Trump's written responses contradict anything these people have said.
 
Pretty unfortunate because it's obvious these people are completely guilty. But you gotta hand it to these sacks of shit- they're managing to keep their stories well enough together. Big question is gonna be if Trump's written responses contradict anything these people have said.
I don't imagine Trump will do time.

High likelihood those around him will continue to fall.

Middle likelihood some family member will be indicted.

Regardless of whether anything can be proven about Trump, he's surrounded by incompetent crooks.
History will not be kind to DJT.
 
That last bit about hoping to limit the investigations is called obstruction. Now, I'm not a lawyer but I still don't think this is enough to get Trump despite the writing being on the wall.
Cohen has recorded conversations.

FBI raided his home/office .


Jones wrote in a filing submitted Tuesday night that after her reviews so far, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York has been given access to more than 292,000 items, and more than 1 million items “not designated privileged or highly personal” were expected to be released Wednesday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...407104-63b1-11e8-99d2-0d678ec08c2f_story.html
 
I don't imagine Trump will do time.

High likelihood those around him will continue to fall.

Middle likelihood some family member will be indicted.

Regardless of whether anything can be proven about Trump, he's surrounded by incompetent crooks.
History will not be kind to DJT.
High likelihood Jr is indicted. The rest might get off though NY is coming after them hard for the tRUmp org
 
Supporting scumbag criminals who are transparently guilty is a moral failing which you ought to address.

@HereticBD is an enemy of America. Hes a foreigner cheering for a bunch of crooks robbing our country.

He might as well join al-Qaeda imo and fly into one of our buildings imo.
 
I don't imagine Trump will do time.

High likelihood those around him will continue to fall.

Middle likelihood some family member will be indicted.

Regardless of whether anything can be proven about Trump, he's surrounded by incompetent crooks.
History will not be kind to DJT.
I'm 30/70 Trump gets indicted for obstruction. No he won't do time, but it'll be interesting to then see how the House+Senate respond to calls for impeachment. Things are so crazy that I could see:
1. Indictment+guilty verdict
2. No impeachment
3. Trump running for reelection with Republican backing
 
Now until 2020 will see nothing from this administration except defending itself from countless investigations. Even if he's not impeached, Trump's presidency is effectively finished.

Count me as not surprised in the least that Mueller's team was able to lay traps that Trump's team stepped right into, despite knowing all they had to do was not step into a trap for over a year now.
 
That last bit about hoping to limit the investigations is called obstruction. Now, I'm not a lawyer but I still don't think this is enough to get Trump despite the writing being on the wall.
If cohen lied to fbi/congress what are the odds the trump crime family did as well?
 
Cohen has recorded conversations.

FBI raided his home/office .


Jones wrote in a filing submitted Tuesday night that after her reviews so far, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York has been given access to more than 292,000 items, and more than 1 million items “not designated privileged or highly personal” were expected to be released Wednesday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...407104-63b1-11e8-99d2-0d678ec08c2f_story.html
That's a lot of shit but remains to be seen if Trump's footprints are in it. Sounds like we'll find out
 
If cohen lied to fbi/congress what are the odds the trump crime family did as well?
Extremely high, but the burden of proof is on Mueller and if the lies are well covered that makes it a lot harder to prove. Guys like Cohen and Corsi can help Trump as much as they help Muellers team, which may or may not be by design in the first place.
 
The fact that all of Mueller’s “witnesses” have already been charged with lying under oath I’m not sure how helpful they would be to him moving forward.
 
setting up all kind of traps to find some contradiction, no matter how small and unrelated, then blow it up to a scandal
Nothing illegal was done and even if it was, I didn't do it. All the people I've hired have been the best, most honest people until they stop serving my interests
 
The fact that all of Mueller’s “witnesses” have already been charged with lying under oath I’m not sure how helpful they would be to him moving forward.
All?
Is there a comprehensive list available of his witness cooperators?
 
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