Fedor Was Only 33yrs old When He lost to Werdum

[Wand claude van-damme]

most overrated fighter ever,mostly because people feel nostalgic about him and pride days

Probably most underrated of all time... Especially when you look at the fighters and they're skills of today's HW

 

[IloveTHIS]

Fighting years are different to normal age.

I honestly cant decide anymore if its hilarious or fucking pathetic a 2014 account cant compute this simple fact

 

[MCDojoMMA]

Why did fedor lost his prime after 33 fights? He was the best ever right? So he would have had easier than other guys like hendo and Jones.

Yet, he declined. Even though other fighters had harder fights than fedor. Fighters with more fights and more Ko losses did beter after 33 years old.

For me, longevity is also important to be considered the goat. Fedor getting destroyed after 33 years is a bad thing.
Please @ me

 

[2004 account]

Vulcan bro, you're exposing yourself as an mma casual lol


The first response already has more support than your opening post, give it a rest buddy lol


Fedor at 33 had already a more establish career not only in mma but combat Sambo as well so you can't even compare it directly to these fighters like stipe that fight once a year nowadays.


You lack critical thinking.

 

[mmathurbator]

training injuries are one of the biggest things that shorten a fighters prime

 

[2004 account]

This is a classic mistake of MMA fans who’ve never competed or even trained, they automatically assume age = MMA mileage.


Fedors had been competing over two decades of Combat Sambo and professional MMA by that point.... do you know what that does to your body?


Shogun was in his late 20’s when he burned out because of the fight mileage and gym wars... see how this works?

More than a mistake it's a casuals presumptuous take on something he hasnt really thought fully through yet lol. Typical ignorant mma noob claim.

 

[TestosterOWN]

He had already fought 33 times in a decade retard. Fight mileage matters more than fight age

Jose Aldo was also 33 when he fought Yan good luck trying to convince anyone that was prime Aldo

Fedor was already noticeably slowing down per his trainers and he also lost in Sambo for the first time a little while before the Werdum fight. He was just a headhunting brawler by that point who neglected his grappling

 

[UncleChester]

hardcore mma fans acting like the guy was 60yrs old and past his prime when he lost to werdum guy was barely hittin a HWs prime hell stipe was 1 year older when he won the title no doubt fedor was the 1 p4p hw during his pride run but in retrospect the guy barely cracks the top 5.

In 15 years people will tell you your hero's were junk too.

 

[Vulcan]

typical fedor fans conviniently forgetting that small MW Dan Hendo was 7 yrs older and had around the same combat experience as fedor when he made Fedor look like an amateur

 

[El Fernas]

Randy is another example, or Fig barely reaching his fighting prime in his early 30’s.

They had minimal mileage on their body. Look at Cody peaking so young only to get knocked out 3 times in a row.

How many MMA fights Cody had leading up to those fights? Very few, he didnt got KO because of wear or something, he got caught swinging wild the 3 times it happened.

 

[kenetics]

hardcore mma fans acting like the guy was 60yrs old and past his prime when he lost to werdum guy was barely hittin a HWs prime hell stipe was 1 year older when he won the title no doubt fedor was the 1 p4p hw during his pride run but in retrospect the guy barely cracks the top 5.

If you were hardcore you would've know that Fedor competed in combat sambo before he even did mma.. have you seen combat sambo? Obviously not .

 

[The Fat Mexican]

And? Is losing to Werdum something to be ashamed of now?

 

[MescalineDreams]

hardcore mma fans acting like the guy was 60yrs old and past his prime when he lost to werdum guy was barely hittin a HWs prime hell stipe was 1 year older when he won the title no doubt fedor was the 1 p4p hw during his pride run but in retrospect the guy barely cracks the top 5.

It's not about age. Its mileage and time in the sport

Fedor had been fighting for over 10 years at that point.

Find any athlete who's been competing for 10 years at the highest level who's still in their prime.

Anyone with a brain and eyes can see Fedor wasn't anywhere near his best during that era.

 

[Fioretti]

The average age of UFC HW champions when they won the title is 31.06 years old.

31-33 is prime fighting age.

Only 2 current champions from both UFC and Bellator are under 30 years old, and they're in their late 20s (27 and 28).

The premise that Fedor was old and shopworn at 33 is false. He barely took any damage throughout his career, had no major surgeries, and more than half of his 27 fight unbeaten streak was against unranked fighters, cans, and freakshows. When he fought Werdum, it was the first time in his entire career that he faced 4 top 10 fighters in a row, with Rogers barely making the cut. Fedor would go on to amass a 3-3 (50%) record the first time he fought 6 top 10 guys in a row. Two of them barely made the top 10, and one was ranked in a lower division. The cage, the testing, the competition, and the length of his career all played a part in his eventual downfall. It wasn't just that he was "passed his prime".

Male physical prime starts roughly at 27-28, and begins to decline after 35 in most cases. He's an elite fucking athlete and didn't age faster than most humans.

 

[beastman]

Fedor slayed so many former UFC champs and juicers.

 

[ToiletSmasherTheFierce]

Its not a training or competing thing, its a common sense thing.


DC being champ at like 37 shuts down any stupid argument like this for me. Its the perfect example of an older fighter with minimal mileage for me.

DC's first MMA pro fight was in September of 2009, at the age of 30. Are you daft? He had 7 years of TOTAL FUCKING FIGHTING MILEAGE when he won the title (a vacant belt from a fight with Rumble)! He joined a major promotion at 31, and the UFC at 34. Daniel retired with a record of 22-3 after 11 years of fighting.

Fedor, at 7 years of professional experience, was 27-1, with a No Contest. He would win his next 4 fights. Fedor's loss to Werdum came exactly 10 years into his career, putting his record at 31-2. His first pro fight was at 24.

This was the worst attempt at a mike-drop ever. DC was wrestling for most of his athletic career, where injuries and concussions are far less of an issue. He did not get punched in the head until he was 30.

 

[Egészségére!]

strategic mistake or the fight goes the other way

back off & stand it up against Werdum

 

[GIBLERTBAPTISTA]

typical fedor fans conviniently forgetting that small MW Dan Hendo was 7 yrs older and had around the same combat experience as fedor when he made Fedor look like an amateur

Hendo that was juiced to the gills vs skinny fat Fedor fresh off an orthodox fast while training.

 

[sampuncher]

DC's first MMA pro fight was in September of 2009, at the age of 30. Are you daft? He had 7 years of TOTAL FUCKING FIGHTING MILEAGE when he won the title (a vacant belt from a fight with Rumble)! He joined a major promotion at 31, and the UFC at 34. Daniel retired with a record of 22-3 after 11 years of fighting.

Fedor, at 7 years of professional experience, was 27-1, with a No Contest. He would win his next 4 fights. Fedor's loss to Werdum came exactly 10 years into his career, putting his record at 31-2. His first pro fight was at 24.

This was the worst attempt at a mike-drop ever. DC was wrestling for most of his athletic career, where injuries and concussions are far less of an issue. He did not get punched in the head until he was 30.

Lol, that was literally my point.

Nice to see you wasted your own time though writing that.

 

[TJ177]

of course every fighters reach their prime at a different age, but still crazy how many of those pride legends conveniently started declining right at the time they fought in the UFC or strikeforce...

I feel like this MMA math got debunked like 10 years ago, but sure let's revisit.

Fedor's peak run overseas was from about 2000 to 2008.

Here's who were the UFC heavyweight champions during that time period:
- Randy (only went over to Japan a few times and got subbed by jobbers in RINGs)
- Barnett (wasn't even good enough to get a title shot at Fedor in Pride)
- Ricco (LOL)
- Big Timmy (got starched by Fedor under a minute)
- Arlovski (see Big Timmy comment above)
- Mir (was getting TKO'd by the likes of Brandon Vera and getting into motorcycle crashes - would get decimated in Pride)
- Nog (Fedor's waterboy).

Now you can easily argue that a diminished Fedor would have problems with Brock but during the truly apex Pride-era Fedor run, he would have absolutely nuked the entire UFC heavyweight division at any time he wanted. There's just no argument against that.

Yeah people can look at his later losses and be like "nah", but the truth has already been written.