Fedor is 38 years old...

VAfan said:
this is a good point. he's gotten away from the ground game completely lately and just swings for the fences. he needs to be more unpredictable again.
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I think Affliction billing him as the "Baddest Man on the Planet" messed up his style of fighting. He became an extreme headhunter from there on.....KO'ing TS and AA didn't help either.
 
ostlerrage said:
Did they test for trt and other things back then. Randy was certainly a unit back in the day.
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TRT means testosterone replacement therapy, so you don't test for it, you test for testosterone, and other anabolic agents. Vitor was certainly using anabolics when he and Randy fought at UFC 47, when Randy was 41 and Vitor was 27. If Randy was using PEDs during his career, he certainly was far from being the only one.
 
Bowerman said:
Heavyweight is the hardest division on the planet so if he can't get back into the top 5 he is doing amazingly well.
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No, HW is the only division with a 38-year old champ and a bunch of competitive guys with ages between 36 and 43. I know Cormier is an older LHW champ (thanks to Jones' departure) and Anderson was champ until he was almost 40, but those are exceptions. Once you get to WW and below, it's truly a young man's game. Look at Josh Thomson (37).
 
JordanJudy said:
Don't you think it is a bit too old for a comeback?
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thats not that old by HW standards. If he were a WW yeah he'd be fucked. The higher up in weight you go, the less it really matters. They are all about knocking someone out or getting the tap quick in the heavy.
 
mkt said:
No, HW is the only division with a 38-year old champ and a bunch of competitive guys with ages between 36 and 43. I know Cormier is an older LHW champ (thanks to Jones' departure) and Anderson was champ until he was almost 40, but those are exceptions. Once you get to WW and below, it's truly a young man's game. Look at Josh Thomson (37).
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I came here to post pretty much the same thing. glad it wasn't my imagination about the WW and below. even at 30 most of them start looking like shit.
 
I guess it has something to do with the old adage that strength is the last thing to go. The top heavies seems to keep going at an age that most of the lower classes start fading.
 
He can do it, but he still needs a 21st century camp.
 
What people don't realize is fedor's style is not suited for old age. Fedor relied on his speed and explosiveness as a small heavyweight, he was not very technical in his striking. Unfortunately as a fighter ages speed and reflexes are usually the first to go. He doesn't have the technical striking to fall back on.

The Heavyweights in the UFC are massive and a lot of them can strike. As much as I'd like to see fedor dominate I'm doubtful.
 
At heavyweight, he's probably going to fit right in. Isn't the champ Dums approaching 40 as well. Then you got 40 year old hunt and Nelson and Barnett are around late 30s as well. Bigfoot is atleast 50-150 in Yeti/Sasquatch/Bigfoot years even though he is only mid 30s in human years.
 
Hardkore said:
38 isn't that old for HW's, the question is does Fedor have the same speed or has he slowed down?
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Depends on the style of heavyweight. Big heavyweights, who don't rely on speed do well to an older age. Foreman, the Klitchko's, Lennox for example.

Heavyweights who rely on speed start dropping off in their early to mid-30's. Ali, Tyson (other factors too of course, but he was noticeably slower), Roy Jones Jr (not a heavyweight but a glaring example of a speed based fighter who started losing horribly after age 34) and yes, Fedor.

And even when he was 32, before he started losing, his boxing coach said he was slowing down noticeably (but he would make up for it in other ways). When a coach admits that it means he knows its so noticeable that there's no point in denying it - and its pretty clear watching him at that point. His hands still move fast, but the reflexes, what he used to not get hit (its how he, like Roy Jones Jr got away with the low hands), had decreased noticeably ... as they say in sports, he'd lost that half-step on his opponent (meaning they get a half step before he could react).

Fedor's style is bad for an old man. Unless he's revamped it, he's in for a world of hurt, like 38 yr old Ali losing to Trevor Berbick, a fighter who wouldn't have lasted a couple of rounds with Ali in his prime.

So I guess that's the question. During his time off, did Fedor change his style from speed/reflex based to the kind of slow the pace down/grinding style that works much better for older fighters?
 
Andrei Orlovski said:
This man is 39 http://boxrec.com/boxer/7035

HW is different, not so much about speed that goes away with your age.

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Buy Fedor always relied heavily on his speed advantage when striking.
 
infamousXX87XX said:
In order for Fedor to succeed he will need to go back to the sambo/strategist Fedor like in PRIDE. Yes, Fedor would get into brawls back in the days but the Mike Tyson headhunting Fedor will most definitely lose in the UFC.
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Prime Fedor was the furthest thing from a brawler IMO. He wasn't brawling in 2009 either. He was brawling vs Werdum, BF and Hendo though.

He did have a few IDGAF moments in his prime too though, but never to that extent.
 
georgejjr said:
Depends on the style of heavyweight. Big heavyweights, who don't rely on speed do well to an older age. Foreman, the Klitchko's, Lennox for example.

Heavyweights who rely on speed start dropping off in their early to mid-30's. Ali, Tyson (other factors too of course, but he was noticeably slower), Roy Jones Jr (not a heavyweight but a glaring example of a speed based fighter who started losing horribly after age 34) and yes, Fedor.

And even when he was 32, before he started losing, his boxing coach said he was slowing down noticeably (but he would make up for it in other ways). When a coach admits that it means he knows its so noticeable that there's no point in denying it - and its pretty clear watching him at that point. His hands still move fast, but the reflexes, what he used to not get hit (its how he, like Roy Jones Jr got away with the low hands), had decreased noticeably ... as they say in sports, he'd lost that half-step on his opponent (meaning they get a half step before he could react).

Fedor's style is bad for an old man. Unless he's revamped it, he's in for a world of hurt, like 38 yr old Ali losing to Trevor Berbick, a fighter who wouldn't have lasted a couple of rounds with Ali in his prime.

So I guess that's the question. During his time off, did Fedor change his style from speed/reflex based to the kind of slow the pace down/grinding style that works much better for older fighters?
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Now this is an intelligent post.
 
The difference for me is the examples listed never really had to make a comeback. Fedor was knocked out several times before he retired.
 
Depends on his training level.

If he comes in with his half-assed training in his later years, he's not going to have a successful comeback.
 
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