Law FBI raids John Bolton's house looking for "classified documents"

[Rational Poster]

Yes... this has been their entire platform for almost a decade

Hence why they're hemorrhaging voters and enjoying record lows in Approval Ratings.

Yeah Dems are so unpopular, yet the GOP is doing mid-decade redistricting outside of a census year because they know they're going to get creamed in the mid terms, lmao.

 

[Streeter]

Yes... this has been their entire platform for almost a decade

Hence why they're hemorrhaging voters and enjoying record lows in Approval Ratings.

If they will never change back to being left center majority (Bill Clinton dems) an keeps letting the Progressives be the voice then I hope they keep it up as Anerica keeps leaving em. That needs to continue ie untill the party wakes up and the adults are in charge again.

 

[Bathwater]

Did they search his wife's panty drawer?

I'm guessing no...

I bet her panties’ waists are so high she tucks her tiddies into them.

Spoiler

And I likes that

 

[Area809]

So, according you, if you cooperate and pinky swear to not do it again then you'll never face any punishment?

Depending on the situation, you may face zero punishment. It depends on the information in the documents, your INTENT, is it a threat to national security and other factors. It’s not a blanket law stating that you are to be prosecuted for any and all mishandling of documents.

Refusing to hand them back like Trump, probably raises questions of INTENT. You know, kinda of a big deal.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

I guess we know what the Alaska meeting was all about , trump was taking notes from Putin

Kidding aside this undeniably has shades of early Putin moves to quell dissent and sow fear

 

[IanEdwards]

When informed of it, Biden wilfully returned the documents immediately in full compliance

Trump and his lawyers lied about how many documents he had, he lied about sensitivity of said documents, and failed to disclose the additional documents under his possession, not to mention he dragged the process on for several months. He also had some highest level security documents improperly stored which put the country at severe risk.

Comparing the two situations as equal two is gross misrepresentation of facts.

Oh god, are they still pushing that shit that Biden and Trump's actions over the documents were equivalent? bunch of fucken bad faith fairies.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

The demorats will ignore this because their who stick is Trump is bad and anyone that voted for him is a Nazi.

The normal bullshit from them.

They will also ignore that Trump was never charged with:

• 18 U.S.C. § 1924 (Unauthorized Removal and Retention of Classified Documents or Material): This law specifically prohibits an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States from knowingly removing classified documents without authority and with the intent to retain them at an unauthorized location.

Instead he was charged with the espionage act, which can involved nonclassified and declassified material.

I wonder why

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

apparently no one is above the law.

 

[Damien Karras]

Biden took his Classified Stash when he was VP... which he had no authorization to do so. Forget declassifying first... He wasn't allowed to take them in the first place. Then kept them in a garage where you could see them when the door was open... lololol

Biden only go exempted from further investigation because Robert Hur determined Biden's brain was rotted and not worth pursuing

Then Hurr got destroyed and his career ruined by Democrats Left and the Press for stating the truth about Biden.

Luckily Hurr was vindicated over a year later after Biden shit his pants during the debate.

Either way... Why don't you wait until we hear if they found anything before you go on your TDS garbage takes.

lol.... You might be right or wrong

We'll see

Trump had no more right than Biden to be in possession of those documents in the first place because he did not undergo the proper channels in the first place to declassify them.

Trump's case is way worse when you consider that he did not have the authority to hold onto classified documents as a civilian. He then failed to report them and lied repeatedly to officials about, and then ordered their destruction because he knew what he did was unlawful. Trump's actions are way way way worse no matter how you look at it. Biden complied immediately with authorities and returned all the documents. I'm not whiteashing Biden on this, but to compare the two as the same is disengenuous, and you know it.

 

[oldshadow]

They didn't raid it without a warrant, in DC.

To get that they had to have something to show.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

They also found Biden to have classified documents in three separate locations, that he had been holding on to for over a decade, yet you guys didn't think it was all that serious.

Question , When you are larping as an American conservative maga do you dress up too ?

Given your post history and your teen girl like fandom of trump It would be reasonable to assume you have the red hat and other paraphernalia that you wouldn't dare wear outside up here so I'm curious, do you dress up like you're at a trump rally when you are raging at your keyboard metaphorically tonguing Trump's taint ?

 

[Islam Imamate]

Because you would be implicitly accepting this by falling into that trap, right?

There are two positions of consistency - "It was no big deal that Trump did it, so it's no big deal if Bolton did it" and "Trump did this shit and we know how serious that was, so this is just as serious".

You're suggesting the former, but I think the right answer is always the latter.

No those aren't the only two consistent positions. Not every case is the same and thus not necessarily as serious. Intent matters here. Biden, Pence, and Trump all had classified documents after leaving office but only Trump demonstrated intent to retain those documents instead of readily giving them up like Biden and Pence did.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

They didn't raid it without a warrant, in DC.

To get that they had to have something to show.

I also like that Kash is owning it. Where as Wray was like, “well whatever do you mean? I didn’t order it and didn’t know about it”.

Yea bullshit

 

[aerius]

It's John Bolton, fuck that warmongering neocon asshat.
I don't care how he goes to jail, if they have to plant a bunch of evidence and hit him with trumped up charges so be it.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

No those aren't the only two consistent positions. Not every case is the same and thus not necessarily as serious. Intent matters here. Biden, Pence, and Trump all had classified documents after leaving office but only Trump demonstrated intent to retain those documents instead of readily giving them up like Biden and Pence did.

Trump did give them back some of the documents (they charged him for those documents too) and told them if they need anything else, to ask. Instead, they raided him

• 31 counts of retaining and failing to deliver national defense documents under the Espionage Act.

Each of these charges is for possession of a separate, specific document. Ten of these documents were handed over to the government in June 2022, and the other 21 were recovered in the August 2022 search.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Trump did give them back some of the documents (they charged him for those documents too) and told them if they need anything else, to ask. Instead, they raided him

• 31 counts of retaining and failing to deliver national defense documents under the Espionage Act.

Each of these charges is for possession of a separate, specific document. Ten of these documents were handed over to the government in June 2022, and the other 21 were recovered in the August 2022 search.

So in other words he knowingly kept most of the documents and sent back only a third when asked? How does not that demonstrate an intent to retain the documents?

 

[44nutman]

Hopefully Bolton was smart enough to get his pool guy to flood the camera room

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

It's John Bolton, fuck that warmongering neocon asshat.
I don't care how he goes to jail, if they have to plant a bunch of evidence and hit him with trumped up charges so be it.

So flush the rule of law down the shitter cause reasons ?

 

[ShadowRun]

I didn’t say that at all. I said it’s one thing to raid if there’s sufficient evidence for it—and I’ll add, if the government already tried normal means of getting classified docs back and Bolton refused, as the government did with Trump.

But I am also noting the hypocrisy of Trump supporters. They screamed “Lawfare” when it was Trump; they cheered when Aileen Cannon dismissed it and voted Trump into the White House so he’d be insulated from any appeals court decision.

I am going to bet that there won’t be a lot of substance to this because there hasn’t been much (if any) substance to all of the other things Trump is doing to target his perceived enemies, it’s pretty much been nonstop frivolous bs so far.

I see my mistake then , valid points. Going to see how this plays out

 

[cottagecheesefan]

So in other words he knowingly kept most of the documents and sent back only a third when asked? How does that demonstrate an intent to retain the documents?

He gave more than 11, while fully cooperating

In June 2022, following a subpoena, Justice Department officials and FBI agents visited former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate to retrieve classified documents,
according to The New York Times and ABC News.
According to reports, Trump personally greeted the officials and agents, stating "Whatever you need, just let us know" and "If you need anything at all just ask Evan" (referring to his lawyer Evan Corcoran).
Trump's lawyers provided the FBI with 38 documents marked as classified in response to the subpoena.