Law FBI raids John Bolton's house looking for "classified documents"

BFoe said:
If there’s sufficient evidence for it. I haven’t had a chance to review that yet.

But there was an abundance of evidence that it was necessary in Trump’s case, and his supporters didn’t GAF. Now those same people want to turn around and lecture us on how serious things like this are. Why should I want to listen to them? They’re the ones who set the standard that this is no longer a big deal, are they not?
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Still his house was raided, charges were filed, and they wanted to put him in prison for it. While not going after others based on subjective estimations of intent and compliance. So the anger was mostly about perceived double standards. Not that hoarding classified sensitive documents isn’t something that requires efforts to obtain them.

I personally don’t think it’s a big deal unless espionage is at play. I’m for them recovering the documents but It’s pretty common and most of the time it’s not really sensitive at all. Definitely not prison

This is a 4-5 year thing so chances are whatever documents Bolton allegedly has, he is denying he has them. So they’ll go looking.

Bolton, while critical of Trump, is not behind any Russian hoaxes and other efforts to legally railroad Trump in the past. He was also one of the main guys that refuted John Kelly’s smears in The Atlantic even after being fired. So if there is a” list” of targets in a revenge tour, I doubt Bolton would even be considered.

If this was conveniently James Clapper or John Brennan. Somebody of that ilk with ties to the Russia hoax.. Then I would be more suspicious this is all in search for a crime.

But let’s not assume that just because somebody is Anti-Trump that any legal trouble that comes their way is politically or personally targeted, when it seemed that way for the last 4 years on the other end..with whole made up legal theories being cooked up and lapped up..and people insisting it’s above board.
 
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HereticBD said:
They also found Biden to have classified documents in three separate locations, that he had been holding on to for over a decade, yet you guys didn't think it was all that serious.
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On November 14, 2022, Attorney General Merrick Garland assigned U.S. Attorney John R. Lausch Jr. to conduct an initial investigation. On January 12, 2023, Garland appointed Robert K. Hur as special counsel to investigate "possible unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or other records". The next day, the House Judiciary Committee opened a separate investigation into the documents.

On February 8, 2024, the Justice Department released the report by special counsel Hur, which concluded that the "evidence does not establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt", so "no criminal charges are warranted in this matter".

For classified documents found in the Penn Biden Center and in the University of Delaware, Hur judged that they "could plausibly have been brought to these locations by mistake".

For Afghanistan-related classified documents found in the garage of Biden's Delaware home, Hur stated that his investigation could not determine "why, how, or by whom" that material was kept.

For Biden's handwritten notebooks found in Biden's Delaware home, which included classified content, Hur credited the possibility that Biden treated them as "personal property", given "historical practice" of the federal government allowing President Ronald Reagan to take home his diaries as "personal records" despite their classified content.
 
HereticBD said:
They also found Biden to have classified documents in three separate locations, that he had been holding on to for over a decade, yet you guys didn't think it was all that serious.
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Biden voluntarily gave them up. It didn’t require a FBI raid. Same thing for Mike Pence. It’s kind of a huge difference lol.
 
Area809 said:
Biden voluntarily gave them up. It didn’t require a FBI raid. Same thing for Mike Pence. It’s kind of a huge difference lol.
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They both also didn’t have the power to declassify, thus actually commited crimes, while Trump didn’t. That is a huge difference

Anyways, need to get me one of these hats!

 
Kingz said:
Still his house was raided, charges were filed, and they wanted to put him in prison for it. While not going after others based on subjective estimations of intent and compliance. So the anger was mostly about perceived double standards. Not that hoarding classified sensitive documents isn’t something that requires efforts to obtain them.

I personally don’t think it’s a big deal unless espionage is at play. I’m for them recovering the documents but It’s pretty common and most of the time it’s not really sensitive at all. Definitely not prison

This is a 4-5 year thing so chances are whatever documents Bolton has, he is denying he has them. So they’ll go looking.

Bolton, while critical of Trump, is not behind any Russian hoaxes and other efforts to legally railroad Trump in the past. He was also one of the main guys that refuted John Kelly’s smears in The Atlantic even after being fired. So if there is a” list” of targets in a revenge your, I doubt Bolton would even be considered.

If this was conveniently James Clapper or John Brennan. Somebody of that ilk with ties to the Russia hoax.. Then I would be more suspicious this is all in search for a crime.

But let’s not assume that just because somebody is Anti-Trump that any legal trouble that comes their way is politically or personally targeted, when it seemed that way for the last 4 years on the other end..with whole made up legal theories being cooked up and lapped up..and people insisting it’s above board.
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There are no “Russian Hoaxes.” I want to say that first and foremost. We KNOW, unequivocally, 100%, without question, that what Trump and Tulsi are accusing Obama, Hillary, and others of doing regarding Russia is false. Again, it’s not even a question. This has been investigated already six ways from Sunday, including by Trump’s own handpicked guy John Durham, and we already know the allegation is nonsense.

I covered this in another post, but charging Trump with willful retention of classified docs while not charging Pence or Biden is not really subjective. The law spells out the criteria, Trump clearly met that criteria while the others did not. There’s no double standard there. All he had to do was give the shit back, as they asked him to do several times.

Regarding Trump’s criminal cases—i.e., the criminal charges in NY, DC, FL, and GA—no legal theories were “cooked up.” The evidence against Trump was overwhelming in all those cases.
Trump literally campaigned on taking revenge and retribution against his so-called enemies. And so far, we’ve seen baseless allegation after baseless allegation. All I’m calling for is consistency: if Bolton meets the criteria to be charged, fine. But so did Trump, and that was somehow excusable.
 
ShadowRun said:
So you're willing to look the other way of laws being broken because of people who did the same? That is not a healthy mindset.


We will see how this turns out, I would bet there is fire with this smoke because they're under the microscope and have 2026 to think about.
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I’d agree with you if I trusted this administration to operate in good faith. The dude that will randomly tweet something like, “I hate Taylor Swift” (which by the way, lmao), is definitely not all there and would definitely go after someone that he felt attacked by.
 
Area809 said:
Biden and Pence were given grace because they cooperated. Trump did not cooperate. That’s why his home was raided.
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Cooperation doesn't change what the actual law says. There's plenty of people that cooperate and still face punishment.
 
HereticBD said:
They also found Biden to have classified documents in three separate locations, that he had been holding on to for over a decade, yet you guys didn't think it was all that serious.
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Because the context of that case was that Biden had kept items from his former stints in office and then returned them once he was notified they had become classified.

Everyone remembers this, because you guys spent a lot of time lying and pretending it was the same thing as having cases of classified docs next to a shitter and lying to the feds about it.

Nice try at a revision though.
 
So sad. John Bolton was such a swell guy.
Authoritarian or no, I’m not shedding tears over some war-hawk getting shit on. Maybe he can get a job at the new MSNBC.

Fucking awful, TBH, but fuck John Bolton.
 
cottagecheesefan said:
The has filed a lawsuit against Bolton in 2020 for publishing and leaking classified info. The Biden DOJ dropped it, probably because he was critical of Trump, thus making him above the law

www.nytimes.com

Justice Dept. Opens Criminal Inquiry Into John Bolton’s Book (Published 2020)

Investigators are examining whether the former national security adviser illegally disclosed classified information.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

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My understanding is that the info wasn't classified at the time it was written.
 
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