Movies FANTASTIC FOUR [2015] Thread v.2 (Dragonlord's Review)

[RoosterShooter]

just saw the trailer. shit looks pretty solid TBH. ppl still hating on it but this has def lifted my spirits a bit.

dammit....fine..im hopeful now.

 

[Adamant]

I probably wont even watch this for free, let alone pay for it. No way.

 

[Ikuza]

That was a great trailer for Interstellar. Not so much FF. But it's also a teaser, so who really knows.

 

[Deleted member 53199]

Is it known who is the main villain? Is it again Dr. Doom?

 

[Judo Thai Boxer]

but they will let this guy play Christ.

this guy play Noah.

The entire main cast of Egyptians including Moses in Exodus: Gods and Kings, by Ridley Scott is played by white guys...

and we can go on and on.

"Whitewashing" or "racebending" of characters real or fictional was the norm when Hollywood was pandering to a mostly white audience. Now the audience is more diverse and the pandering is going both ways.

Nothing to see here.

90% of all actors are white. That's why you see white people playing the majority of roles. This is Western cinema after all.

Plus most studios will forego credibility for star power. 'Oh christian bale wants to work on this film? Fuck him, he's not dark enough.'

Joel Edgerton also looks like he could be Egyptian in Exodus IMO.

 

[Lovestorm]

Does Russell Crowe not look like Noah?

 

[AgentSmecker]

Hmmmm The Thing actually looks like he might be pretty cool.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

This trailer looks boring. Like Prometheus boring.

Oh yeah, the FF trailer reminded me of the Prometheus trailer also. Was so hyped for Prometheus after watching the trailers but the film turned out to be one of the biggest disappointments in recent years.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Is it known who is the main villain? Is it again Dr. Doom?

Everything you need to know is in the archives located on the first page.

Update: April 1, 2014

Toby Kebbell to Play Doctor Doom in FANTASTIC FOUR Reboot

Spoiler

The last significant piece of the new Fantastic Four puzzle is set. The character Victor von Doom, more commonly known by his only slightly more evil-sounding name Doctor Doom, will be played by Toby Kebbell (Wrath of the Titans, Prince of Persia). Deals are being finalized, but assuming everything goes according to plan, he’ll join Miles Teller, Michael B. Jordan, Kate Mara, and Jamie Bell in the film. Variety reports the deal without offering many more details about how Doom will end up on screen in this version. But it can’t be worse than the Julian McMahon version in the 2005 film, right?

We do know that the Josh Trank film, scripted by Jeremy Slater and rewritten by Simon Kinberg, is leaping off from Marvel’s Ultimate Fantastic Four comic series. The characters will be younger than the traditional versions, and some precise origin details will likely differ from the original story written by Stan Lee in the early ’60s.

The Ultimates version of Doom actually has the “regular” name Victor van Damme. (Variety specifies the “von Doom” name, but that could be incorrect.) He is an aristocrat who is descended from Vlad “the Impaler” Tepes. He’s involved in the same scientific program as Reed Richards, and is instrumental in the accident that gives the Fantastic Four their powers. How many of the Ultimate details will end up in this film? We don’t know at this point.


Toby Kebbell to Play FANTASTIC FOUR Villain Doctor Doom in Josh Trank's Reboot

Update: November 10, 2014

Doctor Doom is an Anti-Social Blogger in New FANTASTIC FOUR

Spoiler

Fans know next to nothing about Josh Trank‘s The Fantastic Four, opening August 7, 2015. We know they’ve casted young, changed a character race (African-American Michael B. Jordan plays Johnny Storm, who is Caucasian in the comics), and strongly hinted at upending what fans expect from an adaptation of the long-running comic series. Unsurprisingly, those changes will also extend to the film’s antagonist, Doctor Doom, who is being played by Toby Kebbell (Dawn of the Planet of the Apes). In an interview with Collider, Kebbell said:

"I’m excited to see it too, and my nerves really…The only thing I can tease you about is what I worked on most was the voice because nobody—even in the cartoons, when I was watching them I was like, 'So where’s he from?' There’s a mild change and I’ll tell you because of our history."

"He’s Victor Domashev, not Victor Von Doom in our story. And I’m sure I’ll be sent to jail for telling you that. The Doom in ours—I’m a programmer. Very anti-social programmer. And on blogging sites I’m 'Doom'."

"Yeah, it was cool man. Josh, the whole deal, the lo-fi way he did it, the ultra-real. It was just nice to do that. It was nice to be feeling like we had to come to terms with what was given by this incident."


Toby Kebbell Reveals Doctor Doom’s Radically New Origin in THE FANTASTIC FOUR

Update: November 11, 2014

Toby Kebbell Provides More Details on His 'Doctor Doom' Role

Spoiler

Yesterday, Fantastic Four fans received some upsetting news about the new reboot. Toby Kebbell, who plays Doctor Doom, revealed that his character is named Victor Domashev who he describes as an anti-social programmer and called Doom on blogging sites. IGN has released a video interview with Kebbell where the actor provides more details on the reboot and his Victor Domashev character.

"This is, thankfully, a very realistic, low-fi attempt at a super hero movie. Josh Trank, who did Chronicle, did that kind of realistic...well, regardless off what you think of it, he did a lot with very little. And that’s the same approach that was taken on this one."

"I can tell you a couple of things. He’s not Von Doom: He’s Domachev. My whole thing was getting his voice just right. I’ve seen the cartoon and watched so much. Now, we’ve got him as Doom because he’s a programmer. And wherever he is, in chatrooms, he’s Doom. And those are the only solid bits I can give."

"When I was a kid, that voice I imagined, that was what I tried to portray. That voice of a person who’s been in a country. When I was a kid it was an Eastern European who’s been in England. They kind of have an English accent, but you can tell they’re not from there. And so now this is Von Doom, or Domachev as we’ve got him in this movie, and he’s in America and so I did the American accent with that hint, that element. But that voice for me was so vitally important."


Toby Kebbell Talks About His Doctor Doom Role in THE FANTASTIC FOUR Reboot

 

[heavyarms21]

Oh yeah, the FF trailer reminded me of the Prometheus trailer also. Was so hyped for Prometheus after watching the trailers but the film turned out to be one of the biggest disappointments in recent years.

Yeah that Trailer for Prometheus had a lot of people fooled, I thought that Scott's return to the Alien Franchise would mean the Definitive Sci Fi movie of our generation.

 

[Kiddo716]

Yeah that Trailer for Prometheus had a lot of people fooled, I thought that Scott's return to the Alien Franchise would mean the Definitive Sci Fi movie of our generation.

if it wasn't supposed to be an Alien prequel, it would've been a good movie.

 

[MikeHammer**]

90% of all actors are white. That's why you see white people playing the majority of roles. This is Western cinema after all.

Plus most studios will forego credibility for star power. 'Oh christian bale wants to work on this film? Fuck him, he's not dark enough.'

Joel Edgerton also looks like he could be Egyptian in Exodus IMO.

ya pandering to the audience with what they think will sell is the biggest reason. Really nothing beyond what they think will sell matters much. Everything else can be overrun if they think it will sell big.

And Western cinema is changing after all. But you are right, once upon a time Western cinema was all about pandering to a white audience and you heard very little complaints.

Now all of a sudden the western audience is getting more and diverse and Hollywood is pandering to that more diverse audience. And really you only hear one chorus and cackle of complaints suddenly now...I wonder why when you never did prior???

 

[Judo Thai Boxer]

ya pandering to the audience with what they think will sell is the biggest reason. Really nothing beyond what they think will sell matters much. Everything else can be overrun if they think it will sell big.

And Western cinema is changing after all. But you are right, once upon a time Western cinema was all about pandering to a white audience and you heard very little complaints.

Now all of a sudden the western audience is getting more and diverse and Hollywood is pandering to that more diverse audience. And really you only hear one chorus and cackle of complaints suddenly now...I wonder why when you never did prior???

I have nothing against people of different ethnicities in film. Anyone who does would be hard pressed to argue that they aren't a racist.

With that said, I'd be pretty pissed if a character I loved and related to as a child was changed to a different race in a film.

If I was an Icelandic guy and was pumped to see Aquaman finally represented on the big screen, I'd be pissed that Mamoa was cast.

 

[Cyke_out]

I don't care if a characters race changes. But I do care when the character and his relationship with other characters do.

Is human torch still the brother of invisible woman? Half siblings? Adopted? That is a huge relationship in the F4 comics, just like Reed and Sue as a couple, Reed and Ben as best friends and Johnny and Ben snnotjng each other. It's a dynamic that works and taking away the sibling rivalry, drama and history is stupid.

 

[devante]

if this was just a sci fi movie that happened to result in super powers, people would take it alot better; but sticking fantastic four on it is gonna create issues w/the fans of the movie.

i get the less is more approach, the other fantastic four went over the top w/campiness and special effects and it wasn't well received so why not try a more dialed down approach to it an see what happens.

this version is very similiar to the ultimate ff, which alot of people did not care for either...

 

[Cyke_out]

Guardians of the galaxy and basically all of marvel studio movies have shown people are willing to embrace the over the too comic aspect.

People didn't like the other F4 movies because they were too close to the comic roots, they were disliked, because they are bad movies with bad writing.

 

[Francis Rossi]

I thought it looked okay, may try to go to deep and be anti other F4 movies that were previously filmed, you know with the humor and wacky stuff

Problem is, that's all part of the comics. You take that away, it's Fantastic Four in name only. They ain't dark and gritty. Batman's tone changes, they fit the comics. Sixties Batman wasn't far off the ridiculous shit from the comics of the time, whereas the darker Batmans of the last couple of decades fit in with the post-Miller and Moore works.

 

[clumseygenius]

Nae too bad, nae bad at all I thinks.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

This is gonna be a horrible flop. Just comparing DragonLord's fantasy picks with what it's actually is gonna be, just shows how meager the potential is for this movie.

I know right but I've made my peace with the reboot years ago that it's going to be drastically different from the comics. But I still understand why people are upset.

Oh yeah, I updated post #10. I forgot to add my fancast for Diablo, Wizard, Klaw, Psycho Man, Ronan, Agatha Harkness, Wyatt Wingfoot and Uatu.

 

[heavyarms21]

Lol I totally didn't catch this the first time

"They are not really related but that movie got hate before hand and ended up being good , please give this one a shot"