Exposing the Grift: Go Woke Go Broke

Yea but that was all part of the story GRRM wrote.

This unrequited lesbian love story is completely made up and inserted into the story for politics. They had to completely change the story arcs of two major characters from the books to do it.

GRRM even wrote on his blog criticizing the direction the series is going.
First season was good and i am okay leaving it there. There was valid in story way to have black characters, them being in a Norway looking place felt weird at first.
 
If they had inserted a storyline with straight characters instead, you would definitely not be complaining and screaming "woke" lol.

That's literally not true at all. I can give two shits if characters are gay and you're just making a completely false assumption about me.

You are complaining about two separate things in one paragraph. A change to the story can be trash. GOT turned into an absolute dumpster fire when the original show runners ran out of material and it wasn't because "woke" it's because their vision sucked.

But that's not what happened in HOTD. They didn't run out of material. They changed the core storyline.

They made some completely nonsensical lesbian love story out of the two main characters out of nowhere. The two main characters are mortal enemies who's sons were both killed by the other side.
 
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That's literally not true at all. I give two shits if characters are gay and you're just making a completely false assumption about me.



But that's not what happened in HOTD. They didn't run out of material. They changed the core storyline and they're literally going "woke"

They made some completely nonsensical lesbian love story out of the two main characters out of nowhere. The two main characters are mortal enemies who's sons were both killed by the other side.

So what makes it "woke" other than the characters being gay in the TV adaptation?

In the top of the post, you said you don't give 2 shits about them being gay. In the bottom, you say it's "woke" lol and you complain about them being lesbians.

Also, is GRRM woke since he included lots of gay characters in og GOT?

If you don't care about them being gay, your issue isn't that it's "woke"...your issue is that it sucks lmao.

Replace one of the lesbos with a man and pretend it's a hetero relationship. Would you still say that it sucks? Would you still say it's woke?

To me, your issue honestly has nothing to do with them being gay, rather than the entire relationship itself is stupid lol. And if that's the case, your issue isn't that HOD is woke, it's that it has shitty writing.
 
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The Rey movie is on hold (indefinitely)
Ironheart from Marvel is on hold
The Blade reboot can't get off the ground, seemingly because they want Blade to be a side character to some girl bosses and the top quality actor slated to play Blade apparently isn't interested in this shit anymore

More examples of woke nonsense flying :D
 
That's interesting, it partly shows when we watched old films before "WOKE!!!!" was a thing, we very rarely noticed inclusivity.
True . . . maybe Mel Brooks was a head of time.

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Having homosexual or other minority groups in a show. Not woke.

Making a characters sex, or sexuality or skin colour the only and main focus of the show. Woke

 
So what makes it "woke" other than the characters being gay in the TV adaptation?

In the top of the post, you said you don't give 2 shits about them being gay. In the bottom, you say it's "woke" lol and you complain about them being lesbians.

Also, is GRRM woke since he included lots of gay characters in og GOT?

You said you haven't watched the series. So you wouldn't understand.

If you don't care about them being gay, your issue isn't that it's "woke"...your issue is that it sucks lmao.

Replace one of the lesbos with a man and pretend it's a hetero relationship. Would you still say that it sucks? Would you still say it's woke?

To me, your issue honestly has nothing to do with them being gay, rather than the entire relationship itself is stupid lol. And if that's the case, your issue isn't that HOD is woke, it's that it has shitty writing.

You're incorrect. It's not only the plot. It's the actual words of the writers that points to it getting all political.

Sara Hess, the lesbian writer, has publicly said all this bullshit about remaking the characters for it to be about these two women. Said a female character that was described as being fat in the books and said that was sexist and they're not going to portray that.

All sorts of retarded comments.

"There's so much in play, there are armies, there are dragons, there's castle strongholds and political maneuvering, but at the end of the day, it comes down to these two women trying to figure it out."

“There’s so much of Hillary Clinton in Rhaenys.” God knows you couldn’t compare Viserys to the other one former President Trump, but the similarities are very clear — to see that the person who is absolutely, hands down, best suited for the job is sidelined simply because she’s a woman, and then has to somehow find her way."

"History is often written by men who write off women as crazy or hysterical or evil and conniving or gold-digging or sexpots. Like in the book, it says Rhaenyra had kids and got fat. Well, who wrote that? We were able to step back and go: The history tellers want to believe Alicent is an evil conniving bitch. But is that true? Who exactly is saying that?"
 
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You said you haven't watched the series. So you wouldn't understand.



You're incorrect. It's not only the plot. It's the actual words of the writers that points to it getting all political.

Sara Hess, the lesbian writer, has publicly said all this bullshit about remaking the characters for it to be about these two women. Said a female character that was described as being fat in the books and said that was sexist and they're not going to portray that.

All sorts of retarded comments.

"There's so much in play, there are armies, there are dragons, there's castle strongholds and political maneuvering, but at the end of the day, it comes down to these two women trying to figure it out."

“There’s so much of Hillary Clinton in Rhaenys.” God knows you couldn’t compare Viserys to the other one former President Trump, but the similarities are very clear — to see that the person who is absolutely, hands down, best suited for the job is sidelined simply because she’s a woman, and then has to somehow find her way."

"History is often written by men who write off women as crazy or hysterical or evil and conniving or gold-digging or sexpots. Like in the book, it says Rhaenyra had kids and got fat. Well, who wrote that? We were able to step back and go: The history tellers want to believe Alicent is an evil conniving bitch. But is that true? Who exactly is saying that?"

Bro, it's an adaptation lmao.

Nothing you said screams "woke"

Everything you are saying screams "I'm mad about the lesbos"

You also dick tucked the questions that I asked lol

What is woke about any of those comments? That she thinks Hillary Clinton was better suited to be president?

Or that she decided to not make a character a fatty fatty 2x4 that couldn't fit through a bathroom door? If anything, making a woman character get fat is woke 🤣....

Again, your argument is that her adaptation sucks dick. Not because it's woke, but because it sucks. Stanley Kubrick changed a ton of shit from The Shining, but his adaptation is better than the book...and Stephen King thinks it's bullshit lol. Stanley Kubrick essentially did the same thing the HOD writer did...but did it well instead of shitty lol.
 
Bro, it's an adaptation lmao.

Nothing you said screams "woke"

Everything you are saying screams "I'm mad about the lesbos"

You also dick tucked the questions that I asked lol

What is woke about any of those comments? That she thinks Hillary Clinton was better suited to be president?

Or that she decided to not make a character a fatty fatty 2x4 that couldn't fit through a bathroom door? If anything, making a woman character get fat is woke 🤣....

Again, your argument is that her adaptation sucks dick. Not because it's woke, but because it sucks. Stanley Kubrick changed a ton of shit from The Shining, but his adaptation is better than the book...and Stephen King thinks it's bullshit lol. Stanley Kubrick essentially did the same thing the HOD writer did...but did it well instead of shitty lol.

Bro you haven't even seen the series. So WTF is the point of me expounding on why the series has jumped the shark, when you won't know WTH I'm talking about? But ok here we go.

All of Sara Hess's controversies and bad writing decisions, explained


Sara Hess is currently one of the most controversial writers working on House of the Dragon right now. Some people have been wondering why this is the case, so I have summarized all the reasons why a significant number of fans dislike her writing.

Hess admitted she doesn't care about following the source material

During an interview with IGN, Sara Hess revealed that she had never watched the original Game of Thrones series. She also insisted that her lack of familiarity with the GoT universe was actually a good thing, and that she didn't "feel loyalty to the story" anyways:

I didn't watch Game of Thrones, and I haven't seen it. I think it was actually a plus... I think I was able to come at it sort of with fresh eyes.
And you know, I mean, I read the books a long time ago so you know, I'm familiar with the world and all that stuff, but I didn't necessarily feel a whole bunch of loyalty to like the story because I haven't seen it.

Hess's fixation on shipping Rhaenyra and Alicent


In the book, Alicent and Rhaenyra were never romantically involved with one another. They were characterized as mortal enemies waging a brutal war of succession. However, the TV adaptation has completely altered their relationship, portraying the two women as being madly in love. While this could've been an interesting dynamic, it fell flat in Season 2 - the final episode had Alicent literally agreeing to betray her entire family and have her own son murdered so she could pursue her crush on Rhaenyra. That episode was written by Sara Hess.

Sara Hess has been pushing the Rhaenicent romance narrative since Season 1. On her Twitter account, she's shared and praised articles about how Queen Alicent and Queen Rhaenyra "would rather co-rule Westeros".
Hess has also leapt at the opportunity to characterize the Alicent/Rhaenyra relationship as one of queer lovers:

There’s an element of queerness to it,” Hess says. “Whether you see it that way or as just the unbelievably passionate friendships that women have with each other at that age. I think understanding that element of it sort of informs the entire rest of their relationship… Even though they’re driven apart by all these societal, systemic elements and pressures and happenings, at the core of it, they knew each other as children, and they loved each other and that doesn’t go away.

Hess also happens to be queer in real life so that may explain her fixation on this unrequited love story fanfic and also including a random kissing scene with Mysaria.

Hess has an overwhelming fixation on the Rhaenyra/Alicent relationship, to the point where it negatively impacts the development and screen time that other characters receive. The Dance of the Dragons was written as a war between Rhaenyra and Aegon II, with Alicent's character diminishing in importance after Viserys dies. At this point in the story, the key players in the war should be the younger generation, such as Aemond, Aegon, and Jacaerys. Despite this, Hess insists that the story should continue to revolve around the Rhaenyra/Alicent relationship instead of the literal civil war going on. She says this during the S2E8 BTS at 10:55:

There's so much in play, there are armies, there are dragons, there's castle strongholds and political maneuvering, but at the end of the day, it comes down to these two women trying to figure it out.

The dragonpit scene with Rhaenys in S1E9 was Hess's idea


Season 1 of HoTD was mostly well-written, with a few exceptions. One notable weak spot came at the conclusion of Episode 9, when Rhaenys interrupted Aegon's coronation by bursting through the floor on her dragon. This scene a TV-only invention as it never happened in book canon, and many viewers felt that it was only added in for the sake of spectacle. However, Sara Hess proudly took credit for it, saying it was her idea to add in an "awesome" dragon scene:
I just remember we were in the writer's room one day, and I was like, "it would be awesome if Rhaenys just came through the floor on a dragon!"

Fans disliked it because much of it was illogical - Rhaenys literally had the opportunity to kill all of the Greens and end the war right then, especially considering that Alicent had just imprisoned her. Fans also disliked how the show framed the scene as glorious and empowering, but Rhaenys had brutally massacred hundreds of innocent peasants during her grand entrance. Worst of all, Sara Hess laughed off the deaths of the smallfolk as completely insignificant during an interview:

Q: So from the beginning, we have been waiting for Rhaenys to do something badass and you gave us this incredible moment. It’s very cool, but does it did make me wonder: Does it make sense that she doesn’t kill them? She murders a bunch of civilians by busting out anyway …
HESS: It’s Game of Thrones — civilians don’t count!

Using characters as stand-ins for modern politicians


Speaking of Rhaenys, Sara Hess literally stated that she wrote the character as a representation of Hillary Clinton (lmao). In an interview with the LA Times, actress Eve Best revealed that Hess approached her and told her about this during her first day on set:

Sara Hess, who’s one of the executive producers and the lead writers for the show, said to me on the first day, “There’s so much of Hillary Clinton [in Rhaenys].” God knows you couldn’t compare Viserys to the other one [former President Trump], but the similarities are very clear — to see that the person who is absolutely, hands down, best suited for the job is sidelined simply because she’s a woman, and then has to somehow find her way.

Weird comments about women who die in childbirth


Episode 6 of Season 1 (written by Sara Hess) includes yet another instance where the show refuses to follow what GRRM wrote in the book. In book canon, Laena Velaryon dies in childbirth, but Sara Hess and the showrunners insisted on changing that because it wasn't "badass" enough. They add in their own contrived scene where a heavily pregnant Laena walks off the birthing bed and commits suicide by dragon. In the post-episode interview at 3:55, Sara Hess literally explains that they didn't want Laena to die in childbirth because she was "a warrior" who couldn't "go out that way", implying that women who die in childbirth aren't strong, interesting, or badass:

"We've already had one person die, sort of, in their childbirth bed, and I just felt like Laena doesn't go out that way. She's gonna go out like a warrior."

Weird comments about women who gain weight after pregnancy


In the book, Rhaenyra is described as a plus-size woman. Other characters with larger body types include Viserys, Helaena, and Aegon II. However, Sara Hess specifically takes issue with the book description of Rhaenyra as having gained weight after pregnancy, implying that it was a lie made up by misogynistic historians:

History is often written by men who write off women as crazy or hysterical or evil and conniving or gold-digging or sexpots. Like in the book, it says Rhaenyra had kids and got fat. Well, who wrote that? We were able to step back and go: The history tellers want to believe Alicent is an evil conniving bitch. But is that true? Who exactly is saying that?

Why is it so unbelievable to Sara Hess that Rhaenyra might gain weight after birthing five children and going through six pregnancies?

The PhilosophyTube Transgender cameo and Sharako Lohar


The final episode of Season 2 (again, which was written by Sara Hess) was subject to immense amounts of criticism. One of the most disliked parts of the episode was the introduction of Admiral Sharako Lohar - in a season finale that already featured no important battles or plot developments, a third of the episode runtime was spent on this new character that nobody was emotionally invested in. Even worse, the character's actress was a literal YouTuber with unconvincing acting skills that just got cast because she was transgender.

Well, Sara Hess had no idea that the audience would overwhelmingly dislike all of the Admiral Lohar stuff, and she seriously thought we we would love it. In an Episode 8 behind-the-scenes interview at 1:34, she talks about how she literally thinks it would be a "highlight" of the season and a "welcome bit of fun". This is how out-of-touch her writing is with regard to what fans actually want to see:

One of our season highlights was bringing in Sharako Lohar. And it can be a rough show - it's grim, it's a war, a lot of people die - so having that moment of levity and off-kilterness was really important to us and a really welcome bit of fun.
 
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Are you making shit up? lol...

The last three Alien movies all have had different female leads... It's been the same since the first one in 77. No one cared because the movies were good. Well Alien 4 wasn't and 3 was questionable.

Outside of Twitter trolls, did people really complain that there was a black stormtrooper. I think most people complained because the movies sucked. And they did... (I did like the first one though). Now why did they suck? That's discussion that's been hashed over many times.

This issue comes in when they try to force a character to be "woke" or whatever you want to call it. Or its the background focus of a narrative

Could the female Ghostbusters been good? Maybe, but the movie sucked and got blasted. Some blamed the female casting, but the movie in general wasn't good.

Why did the "The Acolyte" tank? For me it was the same. But lefties are complaining that fanboys blasted it because of casting and "woke" story line. Nah, it couldn't have been that the show wasn't good and destroyed cannon storylines. Both sides use the "woke" argument as needed

They're already gearing up the defense of the upcoming Snow White movie. If the show bombs, the lefties will blame trolls. When in reality, if the movie is good, it'll do fine.

But ask yourself? Why shoehorn in a hispanic actress in as Snow White? Why? Because there's an agenda. But if the movie is great, most people won't even give it two thoughts once they've sunk into it. Personally, I don't care because I don't plan on seeing regardless. But I am interested on how it's going to do.

Mass Effect Andromeda was a shitshow... Some blamed the "woke" narrative... But defenders again blamed "fanboys" hating on it. But in reality, the game was terrible. There was a ton of criticism that the programming team was picked bases on gender and SJW ideologies. However, if the game had been great... no one would have given a shit.

As to Assassin's Creed... I really don't understand the choice of a black lead in Feudal Japan. From a developer position, it's a decision with minimal upside and a ton of downside. There's no shortage of historical Japanese figures they could have picked. They're likely going to lose a shit ton of fans in Japan because of it. Seriously, if you don't know their culture or have never been there... then you might not understand.

Maybe Ubisoft didn't understand or didn't care. Who knows. Maybe they're thinking there's going to be plenty of AC fans in western countries who won't give a shit.

And like I said above, if the game is awesome. It'll be forgotten and a non-issue a 2-3 weeks after release. I'm hoping the game is good, but I've been looking forward to a AC game set in Japan. These games are always amazing in the settings. And I'll look forward to just exploring and taking in the scenery.

But if the game isn't good... well... buckle up. It'll be Mass Effect Andromeda all over again. And a finger pointing shitshow
I wasn't talking about those Alien movies, not sure your point there, I singled out Aliens in particular because of the amount of boxes it ticks socially and politically.

Yeah, they did. When black/whatever actors say they deal with racism I'll believe them over usually white guys saying otherwise. It's pretty normal unfortunately and I've seen plenty of shit in real life too.

I agree with a lotta the rest. The agenda I don't worry about, media has had agendas since time immemorial and they haven't been/aren't all liberal or leftwing. If it sucks the market will sort it out. I cannot stand grifters like William (The Critical Grifter), I used to only find them annoying but meow I actually think they're harmful, they sow much divisiveness and they're so dishonest. At the same time there's social justice goobers who just will not acknowledge that media fails when it sucks or hide behind identity when basically everyone is like, "yo, this show or movie is trash, get fucked." They ignore counter examples of success just like the "anti-woke" crowd. The Acolyte made me wanna chug bleach lol. Just like Kenobi and Boba Fett, it's stupid as fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuq.

The Assassin's Creed choice actually makes sense to me. Yasuke is kind of an anomaly in history, it seems like he was an interesting dude, maybe there was a particular reason behind it but to me, I get that one either way. It's a good switch up with someone people might not know about and there's enough mystery behind his backstory that they have wiggle room with him, plus they have another character to play as too. To me it's like, "what, a black samurai, and this dude was a real person? Right on."

<mma4>

I'm thinking the game will probably suck though, because it's Ubisoft. As an aside, if people don't get mad about Tom Cruise being a samurai I don't think a black dude who actually existed is a big deal lol. People who accept the former but not the latter give the game away I think. Plus the Japanese themselves have written books with this dude in them and he's in some Japanese video games and a Netflix anime that I actually wanna watch because of all this bullshit lol. The game will probably suck though and then a bunch of people will say DEI, diversity, whatever, when in reality it'll suck because of the same reasons they've been sucking for awhile.
 
During an interview with IGN, Sara Hess revealed that she had never watched the original Game of Thrones series. She also insisted that her lack of familiarity with the GoT universe was actually a good thing, and that she didn't "feel loyalty to the story" anyways:
Was this not very similar to many people who worked on the abject failure that was the Acolyte

Perhaps hiring people who like and care about the source material and not just those who want to shoehorn their modern day political ideologies into shows and movies might stop these formerly enormously successful IPs from tanking?
 
Star Wars had a higher upside than all those movies combined and they killed with identity politics cooties.

Its go woke stagnate / decline and we started to flirt with broke.
No. Star Wars failed from shit writing
 
Star Wars had a higher upside than all those movies combined and they killed with identity politics cooties.

Its go woke stagnate / decline and we started to flirt with broke.
When you have such an enormously successful IP with a tonne of good will built up in the audience it won't go broke on 1 or even 2 projects. But the decline is clearly there in star wars. It's churlish for anyone to argue otherwise.
 
it was not just that, look at the PR and the rest of Disney. It was also a very specific kind of writing failure.
To argue that the political inserts into these shows and movies has not had an enormous impact on the dwindling numbers of people watching and supporting these shows is absurd.

It may not be the only factor. It is clearly a major factor.

I mean these political messages that must be shoehorned into such shows have a direct impact on the crap writing. They limit what the writers can do because they have to fit within these political messages, the casting etc
 
Cancels TGS. Cancels November release. Ubisoft's shares sink to decade low. I bet that youtuber in the OP is going to ignore all that. If that's not broke, I don't know what.
 
So what makes it "woke" other than the characters being gay in the TV adaptation?
The fact that its completely irrelevant to the plot and didn't happen in the book. Why put it in there?
 
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