Driving for powerlifters

[hunto]

No its not.

Vince, an auto is faster in 1/4 mile than a stick from 15sec stock cars to 5second top fuel. No one uses a standard anymore, for pro track, or street racing. An auto is faster.

You can say its not, but that doesn't change facts.

Speed-shifting a standard is one thing, but it still isn't as fast as click-click-click- thats how an auto shifts. No left foot shit, no easing off the gas, just floor it, and clickclickclick.

 

[Raw Sinew]

I'm supposed to engage the accelerator before I let go of the clutch? So basically I can start driving normally then let go?

It's kind of a mutual thing. When you first start learning you kinda have to do both at once to make it easiest, imo. Let the clutch out slow till you feel it start to grab and then SLOWLY ease on the accelerator. Then JAM the accelerator down and light 'em up!

 

[zop]

lol ^^ great visualization.

 

[hunto]

Zop,
The back of the motor has a flywheel on it that spins when the motor is running. The front of the trans has a clutch plate that turns the rest of the trans. When you press the clutch pedal, it moves the clutch disc away from the flywheel, and the motor idles, like at a red light. When you engage it, but letting the clutch out, the flywheel presses into the clutch plate, turning it. If the motor spins too fast, the clutch spins too fast too, and the wheels spin. If the motor spins too slowly, it won't be powerful enough to spin the clutch, and the motor stalls, or dies out. Restart. So you have to find that fine line between letting the clutch out with enough motor so it doesn't stall, but doesn't spin the tires either. It only takes a little practice.

 

[joshetc]

It'll be an experience for me learning to drive a stick. Luckily I'll be doing a lot of burnouts anyway, so wheel spin isn't that big a deal. I'm so excited, hopefully I can seal the deal on thurs or friday..

 

[hunto]

It'll be an experience for me learning to drive a stick. Luckily I'll be doing a lot of burnouts anyway, so wheel spin isn't that big a deal. I'm so excited, hopefully I can seal the deal on thurs or friday..

Try it on wet pavement, open, like an empty parking lot- that way you don't burn off rubber when it slips, and you won't stall the motor as often. You'll still get the hang of it quick enough- taking off is the hard part, shifting while going is simply remembering the shift pattern, not over-reving or under-revving-(lugging). Ahhh, you'll be fine.

Good luck!

 

[Deleted member 130905]

*Loses respect for Fenn*

Men are required to be able to drive stick. You should also know the basics of mechanical workings of a car.

*is ashamed*

I have never had a chance to learn, but I can't say I've gone out of my way to try either. I never cared enough to learn. LI/NYC traffic= fuck stick shifts.

 

[CEF]

Vince, an auto is faster in 1/4 mile than a stick from 15sec stock cars to 5second top fuel. No one uses a standard anymore, for pro track, or street racing. An auto is faster.

You can say its not, but that doesn't change facts.

Speed-shifting a standard is one thing, but it still isn't as fast as click-click-click- thats how an auto shifts. No left foot shit, no easing off the gas, just floor it, and clickclickclick.

Were not talking about purpose built drag cars with purpose built automatic transmissions. Were talking about a stock mustang. The extra drivetrain losses combined with the slow shifting normal slush box make it slower.

Please find any documented example of a stock 15 second 1/4 car where the automatic is faster then the manual in the 1/4 mile. I would like to see these 'facts'.

 

[JPC]

I've always owned vehicles with manual transmissions. I don't even notice when I shift anymore, its such an automatic action. Its like walking, you don't have to THINK about putting one foot in front of the other, it just happens when you want to move forward. When I find myself driving an automatic, I end up reaching for the clutch when I come to a stop.

Zop and fennway, your S&P assignment for this summer is to learn to drive a stick shift. Especially fennway. Zop we kinda figured couldn't but we accept him as he is.

 

[hunto]

Were not talking about purpose built drag cars with purpose built automatic transmissions. Were talking about a stock mustang. The extra drivetrain losses combined with the slow shifting normal slush box make it slower.

Please find any documented example of a stock 15 second 1/4 car where the automatic is faster then the manual in the 1/4 mile. I would like to see these 'facts'.

I will match any equivalent car, only difference being auto vs standard, and auto wins every time. Any DT losses you claim are negated by faster shifting, more consistency.
How many times have you been down the 1/4 mile track? I've driven everything from 15sec stockers to 10sec nitrous'ed back-halved cars.

So before I go digging for 'facts', please tell me how many times you've been down the quater-mile. If it's zero, then stfu.

 

[andrewbc]

i drive a stick 5 tonne for 10 hours on a daily basis. just ignore the pain, go to your happy place. lol. no seriously it aint all that bad

 

[ciscokid1024]

My first car was a 1973 Datsun 240Z with a manual transmission. I had never driven a stick or even had an idea how to drive it, but I wanted the car. I bought the car and then asked the guy how to drive a stick and drove it home.
It was pretty funny I either stalled at every red light or shot off like I was drag racing.
The first time I stopped at a light I saw the van behind me getting closer and closer and I was like, "WTF is he doing?" I almost hit the guy before I realized that with a manual you have to put your foot on the brake or you roll back if there is any incline.
I prefer a manual because it is more fun to drive but I bought an auto for commuting and I kind of miss the manual.

 

[oxcart]

I will match any equivalent car, only difference being auto vs standard, and auto wins every time. Any DT losses you claim are negated by faster shifting, more consistency.
How many times have you been down the 1/4 mile track? I've driven everything from 15sec stockers to 10sec nitrous'ed back-halved cars.

So before I go digging for 'facts', please tell me how many times you've been down the quater-mile. If it's zero, then stfu.

Hunto, maybe it's a US thing or something specific to a 1/4 mile. But if you look at the stats for 90% of European cars the auto models are slower in general. Unless you're talking about a race gearbox on a Ferrari or something like that.

 

[ThePitBull32]

Yeh I've drove a stick like once. It is about time I learn.. I do suck really bad at it.

Im 25 and I honestly just started driving a manual transmission last week. It's frustrating as hell at first, but a lot of fun. I am going to buy one this fall.

 

[takeahnase]

I will match any equivalent car, only difference being auto vs standard, and auto wins every time. Any DT losses you claim are negated by faster shifting, more consistency.

This is not true in general. Dual clutch transmission can be faster on automatic than manual (but the differences are minor if you know what you are doing), but there are tons of old and also current cars that are faster on manual gearing (in particular on tracks with repeated accelerations and decelerations). Even if automatic gearing is more efficient at shifting gears, automatic gearing is heavier than manual gearing, which is why many race bikes have manual transmissions even though they use sequential gearing.

 

[Deleted member 130905]

Zop and fennway, your S&P assignment for this summer is to learn to drive a stick shift. Especially fennway. Zop we kinda figured couldn't but we accept him as he is.

I don't know one person with a stick shift, so I'm fucked. I don't know shit about cars but why would you WANT a manual, automatic seems so much easier.

 

[takeahnase]

Manual is more fun if you enjoy driving. You can also save gasoline with manual.

 

[bacon]

From a maintenance/money stand point, manual transmissions are cheaper to buy and build and they're easier to work on.

 

[DrBdan]

Manual is more fun if you enjoy driving. You can also save gasoline with manual.

Also from what I know it is a lot cheaper to fix a manual transmission and they tend to last longer (according to a friend who is a mechanic and only drives stick). Personally I use a car-sharing service and all the cars are automatics so I have no choice.

 

[Lard-ass]

In sweden, there is a common phrase for releasing the clutch to fast and stalling the engine:
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