Don't you appreciate Mike Tyson so much more?

LEWIS540 said:
Yeah. When I first got into MMA in the late 90s, the guy who was considered indestructible was Mark Kerr.

Then when the Pride 2000 GP came around, a lot of people still expected Royce to dominate.

Weird in hindsight.
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Talk about things that are weird in hindsight

Another killer during his reign was Wanderlei Silva

He wasn't indestructible either, but man how scared were people of this guy.

I remember watching Hendo stop him. So weird. I cheered for Honda... but man, here's a double champ who even stopped Fedor - MW fighter who defeated LHW greats and beat both Big Nog and Fedor... and yet I don't think he inspired fear in anybody's heart

Weirdest thing ever in hindsight is Ronda Rousey being the top women's athlete of the year. Then fading into Bolivian
 
Cooliox said:
Talk about things that are weird in hindsight

Another killer during his reign was Wanderlei Silva

He wasn't indestructible either, but man how scared were people of this guy.

I remember watching Hendo stop him. So weird. I cheered for Honda... but man, here's a double champ who even stopped Fedor - MW fighter who defeated LHW greats and beat both Big Nog and Fedor... and yet I don't think he inspired fear in anybody's heart

Weirdest thing ever in hindsight is Ronda Rousey being the top women's athlete of the year. Then fading into Bolivian
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Hendo is a hard one to rate. TRT helped him more than anyone, no disrespect. Still a double hard bastard.

Wand was likely juiced too. Always feel he’s slightly overrated too. Him getting killed by CroCop was equally horrifying and epic.

All these guys are fucking hard as a coffin nail.
 
rstringer said:
Looking how Jones had to beef up 50 pounds over 3 years to fight in the HW division and very few people dare to do this in the UFC,, I appreciate Tyson so much more as small HW who basically weighed in at around 220 on fight night, which is what the LHWs now coming in at. And he fought these guys who were monsters compared to him and KOed most of them.

I personally have a much deeper appreciation for him and still can't think of anyone in combat sports who is more exciting.
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Jones cut from 222 lbs at LHW, so he only gained 25 lbs, not 50 lbs.

Also, weight is more important in MMA than boxing because of the grappling aspect.

AL-Tappo McSnappo said:
i thought he fought at 210?
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Tyson weighed 214 lbs in his first pro fight and was around 215-218 lbs during his prime (1985-1988); after jail he started lifting weights and fighting in the 220's.

LEWIS540 said:
Marciano was like 185, no?

Wilder normally comes in at 215, no?

Lots of HW boxing champs weren’t exactly giants.
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Rocky and heavyweights of that era weighed that much because everyone was poor and didn't have enough food.

Wilder was only 215 lbs but he's also 6'6" tall.
 
acannxr said:
Jones cut from 222 lbs at LHW, so he only gained 25 lbs, not 50 lbs.

Also, weight is more important in MMA than boxing because of the grappling aspect.


Tyson weighed 214 lbs in his first pro fight and was around 215-218 lbs during his prime (1985-1988); after jail he started lifting weights and fighting in the 220's.


Rocky and heavyweights of that era weighed that much because everyone was poor and didn't have enough food.

Wilder was only 215 lbs but he's also 6'6" tall.
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Again, no…..Marciano was not a big HW by any era. Look at the title fights in the 30s.

Most HW in the 30s-50s we’re still 200+.

Yeah, a lot of MWs stepping up to fight HW in those days too.
 
Iron Mike inspired fear - just like Wandi did. Pure savages, period. Anyone opposing either warrior KNEW what they were in for. There was zero "show" in either during their prime... only knowledge their opponent stood no chance and would be hurt just for being there.
Tyson's interviews...Lennox L's included, unmatched.
 
Robbocop said:
Forget about weight, Mike Tyson was 5'10 world heavyweight champion. You tell me the last time you saw anyone 5'10 fighting at heavyweight, MMA or boxing. Boxing HW average height is like 6'6 or something now. MMA heavyweight average height is like 6'4 or something. Mark Hunt is 5'10, he's about the last guy I can remember fighting at HW under 6 foot except some unusual exceptions like Melvin no fear Manhoef 5'8, or Minowaman 5'9, in unusual fights outside of their weight division. Most fighters ain't got that Mike Tyson HEART anymore.
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Isn't DC about 5'10?
 
Mike Tyson vs the press, above - just one of many examples of his "PURE RAGE".
 
nonoob said:
Iron Mike inspired fear - just like Wandi did. Pure savages, period. Anyone opposing either warrior KNEW what they were in for. There was zero "show" in either during their prime... only knowledge their opponent stood no chance and would be hurt just for being there.
Tyson's interviews...Lennox L's included, unmatched.
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Funny people genuinely believe any of these guys genuinely have fear.
 
acannxr said:
Jones cut from 222 lbs at LHW, so he only gained 25 lbs, not 50 lbs.

Also, weight is more important in MMA than boxing because of the grappling aspect.
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even 30 pounds, you don't think that highly impactful to have that much additional weight behind a punch?
 
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