Dominick Cruz striking background...

FIghtxIQ said:
Then I don't see where the confusion is? lol you are the one confused not me. The discussion was about Dominik Cruz's striking background and where he got his footwork from. I just went into more detail with what his style consists of, because many don't understand anything about it. So the few that do, have to educate everyone else because no one else knows what they are looking at. His style is simple to dissect, people just don't understand anything about footwork/movement/boxing or stance switching/switch hitting so they are confused and call it a puzzle. Sorry you guys can't figure it out. That's where my IQ in my name comes from. Being able to see and understand shit that other people don't.
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You sound like jon jones tweeting during ufc 269
 
StoneyBelowNee said:
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Enjoy those feet while you still got 'em kid........
 
Cruz definitely has slowed down for that I notice he been planting his feet more and throwing.

I hate how he doesn't turn his hooks over seen countless times he hits people with his thumb first so it comes off like a slap
 
Always thought Cruz gets his head into very hittable positions as he comes in. I'm surprised he hasn't been knocked out or caught more often. Looks quite sloppy at times.
 
GeneTunney7 said:
There are actually some sherbros that could school Dom in boxing, like the great two time hw champ Tim witherspoon. Us sherbros are moving up in the world!
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is that the neckbeard guy?
 
FIghtxIQ said:
Then I don't see where the confusion is? lol you are the one confused not me. The discussion was about Dominik Cruz's striking background and where he got his footwork from. I just went into more detail with what his style consists of, because many don't understand anything about it. So the few that do, have to educate everyone else because no one else knows what they are looking at. His style is simple to dissect, people just don't understand anything about footwork/movement/boxing or stance switching/switch hitting so they are confused and call it a puzzle. Sorry you guys can't figure it out. That's where my IQ in my name comes from. Being able to see and understand shit that other people don't.
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Why are you still ignoring my very simple point? I never asked you to explain Cruz' style. Never once. You for some reason have only been talking about that. That's not a sign of having a greater ability to comprehend, but more the exact opposite of it. That's not meant as an attack on you. It's just bizarre how you keep dancing around my point. Even if I keep pointing out exactly what I meant.

I think you just can not accept the possibility that you made a little mistake. It's okay. We all make mistakes. Recognizing and accepting our mistakes is how we can learn from them and grow as people. It's a good thing.

I just now, in my previous quoted response towards you, the post above the one I tagged you in, explain very clearly what my issue is and you just straight up ignore it AGAIN. I don't know exactly why you do that, but it's really a bit concerning, my dude. It's not healthy.
 
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Ogata said:
I am curios to know, what style of striking did he study in regards to his footwork?

I know he wrestled in high school but his striking does not resemble any other traditional martial arts as far as I can remember. Is he self-taught?
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Its been a while since I read it but Cruz said in a interview that he developed the footwork because back when he first started they didn't have many weight classes and he was fighring bigger people.
 
Iroh said:
Why are you still ignoring my very simple point? I never asked you to explain Cruz' style. Never once. You for some reason have only been talking about that. That's not a sign of having a greater ability to comprehend, but more the exact opposite of it. That's not meant as an attack on you. It's just bizarre how you keep dancing around my point. Even if I keep pointing out exactly what I meant.

I think you just can not accept the possibility that you made a little mistake. It's okay. We all make mistakes. Recognizing and accepting our mistakes is how we can learn from them and grow as people. It's a good thing.

I just now, in my previous quoted response towards you, the post above the one I tagged you in, explain very clearly what my issue is and you just straight up ignore it AGAIN. I don't know exactly why you do that, but it's really a bit concerning, my dude. It's not healthy.
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If your question was about him not self teaching himself because you think he created it, you are wrong. He didn't create footwork, that's from boxing. He just brought that over to his mma game. It's boxing footwork, he didn't invent anything. He just added it to his style. It's self teaching because he self taught himself boxing footwork. You are thinking he created footwork lol. If you are the one that keeps thinking he invented something, it's just boxing footwork with stance switching. But he's not a real switch hitter, he doesn't heavy combinations from either sides, he just has singular attacks or left and right punches and some leg kicks he can throw from both stances. But he isn't staying primarily in opposite stances and working both offense and defense. He only does it with his movements and resets. He'll jump in with his rear right or left punch while switching stances to catch people while they are trying to time him or chase him down and circle out or back up and reset. That's Cruz's game in a nutshell. You didn't want a detailed analysis of his style but there it is anyway. It's not hard to solve, it's not some kind of difficult puzzle. People just don't understand the necessary steps in order to understand it.

I just gave you a free lesson. You can pretend you don't care or you didn't want that info. But you are the one on here trying to get the info lol.

Also with that info it doesn't matter anyway, because Cruz has better footwork/movement/timing than most of the people he will fight. So most will get stuck watching him because they can't figure out his style. Even if they know what he's doing it's different when he's in front of you. Still need the footwork/movement/timing to keep up.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
If your question was about him not self teaching himself because you think he created it, you are wrong. He didn't create footwork, that's from boxing. He just brought that over to his mma game. It's boxing footwork, he didn't invent anything. He just added it to his style. It's self teaching because he self taught himself boxing footwork. You are thinking he created footwork lol. If you are the one that keeps thinking he invented something, it's just boxing footwork with stance switching. But he's not a real switch hitter, he doesn't heavy combinations from either sides, he just has singular attacks or left and right punches and some leg kicks he can throw from both stances. But he isn't staying primarily in opposite stances and working both offense and defense. He only does it with his movements and resets. He'll jump in with his rear right or left punch while switching stances to catch people while they are trying to time him or chase him down and circle out or back up and reset. That's Cruz's game in a nutshell. You didn't want a detailed analysis of his style but there it is anyway. It's not hard to solve, it's not some kind of difficult puzzle. People just don't understand the necessary steps in order to understand it.

I just gave you a free lesson. You can pretend you don't care or you didn't want that info. But you are the one on here trying to get the info lol.

Also with that info it doesn't matter anyway, because Cruz has better footwork/movement/timing than most of the people he will fight. So most will get stuck watching him because they can't figure out his style. Even if they know what he's doing it's different when he's in front of you. Still need the footwork/movement/timing to keep up.
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I don't think he created it. I didn't say that. It was his style he created, not the footwork. I already said this numerous times.

I'm done, you are just impossible to have a discussion with. Have a good day, bud.
 
Iroh said:
I don't think he created it. I didn't say that. It was his style he created, not the footwork. I already said this numerous times.

I'm done, you are just impossible to have a discussion with. Have a good day, bud.
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That's what I've said from the start. I've agreed with that. He created his style that he uses for mma, but he didn't create the footwork. He just brought it over from boxing into his mma game. His style of constantly using footwork throughout the fight is his style that he created for himself. He uses his footwork as feints and is constantly moving. That is his style to use non stop footwork throughout the fight.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
That's what I've said from the start. I've agreed with that. He created his style that he uses for mma, but he didn't create the footwork. He just brought it over from boxing into his mma game. His style of constantly using footwork throughout the fight is his style that he created for himself. He uses his footwork as feints and is constantly moving. That is his style to use non stop footwork throughout the fight.
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Yes, so why do you keep on about that, while I wasn't? That was not what I was trying to talk to you about.
 
Cruz whole idea of footwork and why it works in a ruleset like UFC is that he basically shuts down any upper to lower body interaction. That way he can be extremely unpredictable because the footwork doesnt work for fighting in the sense of power transfer at all. Its highly dysfunctional and even idiotic if you want to hurt your opponent. He couldnt ko a senile duck with that. His punches lack any core/lower body involvement and thats not his goal. Its great at confusing his opponent if he plans for someone willing to fight. That is also why Cruz always switches stances. Its all about getting to a position to touch. He doesnt even remotely have the technical abilites to execute stance switches with power development (its very rare someone has that) but its only about creating openings. Thats why Garbrandts IQ free fight approach helped him so much. No matter what Cruz would feint and throw Garbrand would stay in range and counter or get hit by girl punches.

What Cruz does is playing touch up like kids and his one goal is to create kind of impossible angles to touch the opponent. It works in UFC because touching is judged as winning. In a scoring criteria based on actual damage this wouldnt do anything. I can respect his moving ability but I just cant bring myself to see that as fighting at all.

I get the Willie Pep reference but please its highly overplayed. Pep actually was a great combination striker who combined his boxing with incredible triangular footwork staying in range. Cruz is a creative potshotter with abysmal striking skills.
 
Iroh said:
Yes, so why do you keep on about that, while I wasn't? That was not what I was trying to talk to you about.
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Sorry, I must have mistaken you with other people I was replying to. I speed through the comments and replies so it must have been for another person on sherdog. My bad.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
Sorry, I must have mistaken you with other people I was replying to. I speed through the comments and replies so it must have been for another person on sherdog. My bad.
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No biggie, bud. Try to pay a little more attention though, this whole long ass discussion could have been avoided. But it's whatever. Again, have a good day, bud.
 
Walter Melon said:
If he studied Willie Pep he's done a poor job at it lmao
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In Cruz's prime he was literally the least hit fighter in the UFC with his opponents missing around 70% of their attempted strikes.
(And that includes leg kicks and ground strikes)

I'd say it worked out pretty well for him.

You also need to grasp that he adapted those techniques into a different sport with kicks and takedowns, so he had to change things. MMA fighters have to be more squared up to defend takedowns and low kicks.


The criticism that I feel like applies to Cruz is that his extremely mobile style was not sustainable on his body and injuries effectively ended his prime.

But in his title run he was as unhittable as any MMA fighter ever has been.
 
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