Elections DOGE is formed

[jk7707]

So why doesn't Congress do it then? We've been sitting around for years with no progress. Should we just give them another 10 years or will it take bit more?

That doesn't matter when it comes to whether something is Constitutional or not. Just because you don't like how it works, isn't permission to ignore how it works. Unless of course, you don't give a shit about the Constitution.

 

[Seano]

That is fine, but taking that money and sending it in checks instead of reallocating it to what they do deem important and then reducing the overall tax demand?

I believe they said 80% would go towards our debt.

I don't any issue with giving back some of what was wrongly taken from taxpayers. People have had a hard time over the past few years.

 

[Scheme]

After the Great Recession, Obama (with a republican house) did wrangle the deficit down for a few years in a row before Trump took over. They did it with revenue (taxes) and spending cuts.
So it’s been more like 9 years since congress did anything about it.

Then Trump and congress almost doubled it in a couple of years, then Covid hit and exploded it, then Biden and congress did nothing about it either. So here we are.

And, newsflash, Trump probably won’t lower the deficit this time around, either. DOGE ain’t cutting jack shit compared to overall spending. Just lowering the deficit will require taxation plus spending cuts (Republicans will never raise taxes, though). And a lower deficit is still a deficit, so it still adds to the debt. They’d need a surplus of revenue to reduce it.

Fun fact: 80% of the 36T debt is owned by the public, domestic and foreign . About 20% is owed to government agencies.

Cutting the defense budget by half, as Trump has requested would absolutely make a dent. Every billion spent is a billion that could go to paying off debt as well. It's like if instead of owing you $20, I took $20 from you. In theory only $20 was moved. But there was a shift of $40 from you to me. Similarly if these spending cuts go to paying off the debt, not only will they not create future debt but if they go to the existing debt we would get double the effectiveness. It will also prevent the effect of compound interest.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- Doge is like if Voltron was formed by idiots instead of robot Lion's.

 

[Osculater]

- Doge is like if Voltron was formed by autistic robots instead of robot Lion's.

 

[Jacket time]

 

[fedorthegoat777]

That doesn't matter when it comes to whether something is Constitutional or not. Just because you don't like how it works, isn't permission to ignore how it works. Unless of course, you don't give a shit about the Constitution.

Every President has approved and declined spending and budgeting. Every President. Clinton cut military spending, W. Bush spent more, Biden and Trump first term spent all kinds of money. How is it all of a sudden illegal?

 

[Captain Tenneal]

I believe they said 80% would go towards our debt.

I don't any issue with giving back some of what was wrongly taken from taxpayers. People have had a hard time over the past few years.

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If they recover a sizable enough amount where 20% equals 5k back to the each household, then I'm okay with that.

Though the libs won't like to admit it, I'm sure they could use the extra cash

 

[Jacket time]

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If they recover a sizable enough amount where 20% equals 5k back to the each household, then I'm okay with that.

Though the libs won't like to admit it, I'm sure they could use the extra cash

5k is life changing for some folks, half way towards a new roof

 

[avenue94]

Cutting the defense budget by half, as Trump has requested would absolutely make a dent. Every billion spent is a billion that could go to paying off debt as well. It's like if instead of owing you $20, I took $20 from you. In theory only $20 was moved. But there was a shift of $40 from you to me. Similarly if these spending cuts go to paying off the debt, not only will they not create future debt but if they go to the existing debt we would get double the effectiveness. It will also prevent the effect of compound interest.

That sounds great until we get to the part where Trump says he wants to cut defense spending but he's endorsing increased defense spending.

Not to mention saving $500 billion a year doesn't even get you most of the way to a balanced budget.

 

[Seano]

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If they recover a sizable enough amount where 20% equals 5k back to the each household, then I'm okay with that.

Though the libs won't like to admit it, I'm sure they could use the extra cash

After all their complaining, I expect them to refuse the money in protest. I'm sure they won't be hypocrites when the time comes.

 

[SurferH2O]

I'd prefer ALL the $$$ got to reducing the Debt and Deficit.

 

[Jacket time]

I'd prefer ALL the $$$ got to reducing the Debt and Deficit.

In a perfect world

With all the drama around DOGE, a check at this stage with all the attention makes sense.
Naysayers will wonder what cuts lead to this. They will want moar

 

[SurferH2O]

In a perfect world

With all the drama around DOGE, a check at this stage with all the attention makes sense.
Naysayers will wonder what cuts lead to this. They will want moar

You're most likely right. I hope that's not the case and we can do the right thing.

 

[Rational Poster]

Every President has approved and declined spending and budgeting. Every President. Clinton cut military spending, W. Bush spent more, Biden and Trump first term spent all kinds of money. How is it all of a sudden illegal?

They all do that as part of the Congressional process.

This is how it works.

Trump is freezing funding already signed into law. That is now how the President interacts with federal funding according to the Constitution and Federal law.

 

[Captain Tenneal]

5k is life changing for some folks, half way towards a new roof

They can probably afford one of those tiny houses made out of a Maersk twenty footer with 5K

After all their complaining, I expect them to refuse the money in protest. I'm sure they won't be hypocrites when the time comes.

Screams from the basement "mom you didn't take that facist POS's money did you?!" "How dare you!"

 

[Jacket time]

You're most likely right. I hope that's not the case and we can do the right thing.

We have a chance now, it's a blessing
These fucking deep state retards were going to sink the ship

 

[Crazy Source]

Every President has approved and declined spending and budgeting. Every President. Clinton cut military spending, W. Bush spent more, Biden and Trump first term spent all kinds of money. How is it all of a sudden illegal?

Holy fuck, my guy. You REALLY need to study up on how our gov't works. Your post would be comical if I didn't realize that many here are just as clueless and they clap like seals at what is going on.

 

[sickc0d3r]

Cutting the defense budget by half, as Trump has requested would absolutely make a dent. Every billion spent is a billion that could go to paying off debt as well. It's like if instead of owing you $20, I took $20 from you. In theory only $20 was moved. But there was a shift of $40 from you to me. Similarly if these spending cuts go to paying off the debt, not only will they not create future debt but if they go to the existing debt we would get double the effectiveness. It will also prevent the effect of compound interest.

Ok, I can get behind cutting the defense budget, and if we somehow cut it in half with no other changes we’d theoretically trim the projected 1.9T deficit by around 4 or 500B. But we’re also cutting taxes. And cuts to defense at that level will include job losses, which is also lost revenue. Then there’s the new budget which might include increases in other areas, etc, etc.

Let’s just say I’m going to need to see more details from a real budget, and I’ll believe it when I see it. I think a more balanced approach reasonable spending cuts coupled with increased revenue is the only way we’ll actually reduce the deficit without making people (voters) feel a lot of pain, but we shall see.

 

[jk7707]

Every President has approved and declined spending and budgeting. Every President. Clinton cut military spending, W. Bush spent more, Biden and Trump first term spent all kinds of money. How is it all of a sudden illegal?

You obviously have ZERO idea how the budgetary process works in the federal government. Go read up and get back to me, instead of making yourself look like a complete idiot here.

Here's a good place to start for you: