Elections DOGE is formed

[GearSolidMetal]

Well I'm sure Elon will have no problem producing evidence of how many dead people SS is paying every year then.

And nice job not engaging with any of the issues raised in the article. Are you dismissing them out of hand or did you not read it?

"There's no evidence!" Is a pretty weak counter-argument when this is about credibility.
And Musk hasn't made the evidence public, which saying 'he hasn't produced evidence' implies he has no evidence and is just making wild claims.

Musk has credibility, and his MSM critics don't, especially now its a big question how many of those publications were on the USAID gravey-train.

Reminds me of the 'there's no evidence illegal border crossings have increased under Biden's adminstration' claims.

Thats every large organization. No one's records are 100% perfect. I'm happy for improvements but if you're hoping for all payments without proper descriptions to be fraudulent, you're gonna br very disappointed.

Yeah, sure... you are all for improvements.
So very believable.
Saying $4.7 trillion of untraceable funds is 'improper' and 'bad record keeping' as if its possible for it all just to be a mistake.
At that amount of wealth, incompetence and thievery, there is no difference.

It's be half if accurate, which it isnt. That would mean at least a full third of SS payments are wrong, which is impossible to cover up.

Why would it be impossible to cover up?
Please, tell us.

And by the way, DOGE hasn't even touched Medicare and Medicaid yet. Can't wait to see the levels of waste there.

 

[Misfit23]

Damn 20 million people cashing social security checks from the grave. The fraud is mind blowing!

 

[Darkballs]

And Musk hasn't made the evidence public, which saying 'he hasn't produced evidence' implies he has no evidence and is just making wild claims.

No.

It's just stating the cold hard fact that Musk hasn't produced any evidence. And considering he's already been wrong about a dozen times so far, you'd be pretty fucking gullible to be still taking him at his word.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

No.

It's just stating the cold hard fact that Musk hasn't produced any evidence. And considering he's already been wrong about a dozen times so far, you'd be pretty fucking gullible to be still taking him at his word.

And you'd be pretty fucking gullible to repeat talking points from an article titled...

No, 150-Year-Olds Aren't Collecting Social Security Benefits​

...which is obviously tongue-in-cheek since there are no 150-year-olds.

But social security funds are being allocated to SSNs associated to people who would be 150 year olds.

You think Musk has no credibility on this, but only because you view him as a political enemy to be defeated. You and @avenue94's completely lack of curiosity on this matter speaks volumes.

If you both would say "Interesting that Musk would post this, but until he produces the evidence publicly its not confirmed to be fact" would be an respectable stance.

 

[HereticBD]

Musk has no credibility! Trust those who can't account for trillions of missing dollars, and are having conniption fits over being audited instead!

 

[essie]

Is there actual evidence to the claims Elon is posing?

 

[Beechwood]

Stephen Miller Exposes Foreign Fraud Rings: Foreign Nationals Use Fake SSNs to Steal Billions in Taxpayer Benefits Through IRS — Full Scope Unknown Until DOGE Accesses Records​

Stephen Miller Exposes Foreign Fraud Rings: Foreign Nationals Use Fake SSNs to Steal Billions in Taxpayer Benefits Through IRS — Full Scope Unknown Until DOGE Accesses Records | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

Stephen Miller reveals a significant foreign fraud scheme exploiting the IRS, potentially costing taxpayers billions. With the Department of Government Oversight and Enforcement set to access IRS records, the implications could be monumental.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[fedorthegoat777]

Another gem:

 

[fedorthegoat777]

Imagine if the US citizens received reparations from all the tax fraud found by DOGE. That would be insanely awesome.

We deserve that. Unfortunately, the money is gone. Home prices in Washington DC just dropped 33%.

 

[BFoe]

I know.
I stated that because you said take the fraud to court.

The budget needs to be cut quickly.

But taking people to court is a great idea. This should happen. It needs to happen. But make the cuts first.

Trump’s cuts are absolutely illegal and unconstitutional.
The budget can be cut quickly. Congress has to pass another budget bill in March. DOGE should be making recommendations to Congress, and they could dissolve agencies or not allocate funding to things in this very next upcoming bill. You know, the legal way.

 

[BFoe]

Another gem:

Sorry to reply again so quickly, but this has to be nonsense. The federal budget for a year is about 6.5 trillion. We’re supposed to believe almost 5 trillion of our revenue is untraceable? Every year? Seems impossible, or we’d be accumulating debt at a wayyyy faster rate than we are.

 

[sickc0d3r]

Sorry to reply again so quickly, but this has to be nonsense. The federal budget for a year is about 6.5 trillion. We’re supposed to believe almost 5 trillion of our revenue is untraceable? Every year? Seems impossible, or we’d be accumulating debt at a wayyyy faster rate than we are.

I feel like DOGE personnel wouldn’t know a Treasury Dept payment system’s “critical code” if it bit them in their skinny jeans. Also, “almost impossible”, loosely translated, means “possible”.

 

[Andy Capp]

Another gem:

lol

 

[Darkballs]

But social security funds are being allocated to SSNs associated to people who would be 150 year olds.

Those are benefits going to dependents of a deceased SSN. The Social Security Office issues lump sums upon death. Elon does know any of this, so once again, he's intentionally misrepresenting his finding for the retards, knowing you'll do nothing to verify the information yourself.

No. Accounts aren't receiving payments because the fed is accidentally paying people that are dead. You got played again.

 

[Crazy Source]

Imagine if the US citizens received reparations from all the tax fraud found by DOGE. That would be insanely awesome.

They aren't producing receipts for any of this. It's all bullshit.

 

[avenue94]

"There's no evidence!" Is a pretty weak counter-argument when this is about credibility.
And Musk hasn't made the evidence public, which saying 'he hasn't produced evidence' implies he has no evidence and is just making wild claims.

And I'm waiting for him to provide evidence. That's how most large claims work, wait and see until we have evidence to assess. I generally don't take the word of a carnival baker, suit and tie or not, before seeing the goods.

Musk has credibility, and his MSM critics don't, especially now its a big question how many of those publications were on the USAID gravey-train.

Remind me again, how did his claim that we were sending $500 million in condoms to Gaza pan out?

Yeah, sure... you are all for improvements.
So very believable.
Saying $4.7 trillion of untraceable funds is 'improper' and 'bad record keeping' as if its possible for it all just to be a mistake.
At that amount of wealth, incompetence and thievery, there is no difference.

I don't think you realize how lazy/incompetent people are in professional settings. Yes, people are lazy with record keeping all the time, even when they shouldn't be.

Why would it be impossible to cover up?

Why would it be impossible to cover up that a third of SS beneficiaries are dead? That would require buy in from hundreds or thousands of government workers, as well as all tens of millions of Americans not saying a peep about receiving checks for dead relatives.

But social security funds are being allocated to SSNs associated to people who would be 150 year olds.

They are not, SS does not pay out to anyone over 115. I'm gonna guess you don't understand what COBOL is either, do you?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Those are benefits going to dependents of a deceased SSN. The Social Security Office issues lump sums upon death. Elon does know any of this, so once again, he's intentionally misrepresenting his finding for the retards, knowing you'll do nothing to verify the information yourself.

No. Accounts aren't receiving payments because the fed is accidentally paying people that are dead. You got played again.

You're acting like Social Security cannot possibly be gamed from inside the Social Security Office itself.

You do know that embezzlement is one of the most common forms of thievery in the corporate world, correct? And there's teams within corporations to discover and investigate embezzlement, correct?

So knowing that, how can you conclude that embezzlement within Social Security cannot be happening?

 

[avenue94]

You're acting like Social Security cannot possibly be gamed from inside the Social Security Office itself.

You do know that embezzlement is one of the most common forms of thievery in the corporate world, correct? And there's teams within corporations to discover and investigate embezzlement, correct?

So knowing that, how can you conclude that embezzlement within Social Security cannot be happening?

Embezzlement happens, but at the scale that Doge claims is absurd. Embezzlement is one of the hardest crimes to get away with in the long run.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Embezzlement happens, but at the scale that Doge claims is absurd. Embezzlement is one of the hardest crimes to get away with in the long run.

Unless there's no means to investigate it from inside the Social Security Office, and whom runs it is on the take.

That lady that just quit? I'd be very interested in meaning if she has money in offshore bank accounts.

And no, I'm not implying she has trillions, but IF a FRACTION of what Elon is saying is true its still a massive amount of theft unheard of in any point in history.