Does the UFC/Dana realize just how special Tom Aspinall is?

[RockyLockridge]

What is time anyway?

There is no time

 

[orca]

A 5 round decision over that gatekeeper is probably Ganes best win.

If you cant give credit to a guy almost clearing out his division in the space of 3 years by beating EVERYBODY in the first round then i'd say your standards are too high. How many HWs in history have you seen do the same?

doesnt change the fact that you cant present me

aspinal outstriking a great striker = 0
aspinal outwrestling an olympian = 0
aspinal strangling legit bjj blackbelts = 0

how can i possibly believe in your claims and opinions

Gane is a Muay thai Champion
he also proved hes the better striker than francis

is tom a champion at anything?

can u make a thread right now asking sherdoggers if they think volkov is a great striker?

 

[jeff7b9]

Jon Jones got pictures of Dana at Diddy parties

In the back room.

 

[WhiteMousse]

I think they know what they have in Aspinall, but they also know he's the de facto champion, if not already then certainly once Jones retires.

He should fight someone else in the meantime, especially since Jones vs Miocic is probably the last fight for both of them.

I wouldn't wish ill on anyone, but if Stipe gets injured and Aspinall is the backup then the fight just got much more interesting.

Jones won't fight Tom.

 

[spooNN]

When Jones retires after Stipe fight they will turn all attention to Tom. They will say how he's the best they have ever seen and how unfortunately they never had the opportunity to match him with Jones, who he would probably beat.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

doesnt change the fact that you cant present me

aspinal outstriking a great striker = 0
aspinal outwrestling an olympian = 0
aspinal strangling legit bjj blackbelts = 0

This is an oddly specific criteria. Its almost like you're looking for ways to discredit the guy to take the pressure off Jon fighting him isnt it?

 

[SuperAlly]

Gane has actually fought the best in the division...in Francis and Jones...

Aspinall's best win is Sergei...who lost to Overeem and Volkov . .

Gane might have most those fights but just facing those guys makes you more proven...

Aspinall is a huge unknown... Thats just facts..

Getting absolutely ragdolled does not make you more proven

I’m sorry. I can’t be arsed to argue with a retard.

Not sure who is more terrified of Tom. You or Jon.

You just keep arguing black is white, up is down, in your mental little world

 

[OldBoy91]

This is an oddly specific criteria. Its almost like you're looking for ways to discredit the guy to take the pressure off Jon fighting him isnt it?

Dorka is the worst Jones fanboy on all of Sherdog and that's saying a lot because even the least insufferable Jones zealot is nauseating.

According to him Volkov isn't a great striker, but Gane is. When they fought the first time Gane only outlanded Volkov by 15 significant strikes over the whole 5 rounds. They were neck and neck the entire time. The lopsided scorecards for that fight were ridiculous and not indicative of the fight at all, should have been way more controversial.

Volkov also is a legit bjj black belt. Prior to Aspinall he was only submitted twice at the very start of his career, and since then he has outgrappled the likes of Romanov, submitted world sambo champ Blagoy Ivanov, back when Ivanov actually used to use his grappling and submit everybody himself. Volkov also acquitted himself very well on the ground against Fabricio Werdum. He spent whole rounds of their fight with Werdum on top of him and not only survived the submission attempts, but was also landing offense from his back. Aspinall carved through him like he was a first day white belt.

So Volkov alone fits 2 of his 3 criteria. Since Aspinall beat him up on the feet and outclassed him on the ground.

 

[SuperAlly]

ok so tom whoopped a decade long gatekeeper in volkov

is that a great achievement

your standards are too low

Absolutely desperate stuff

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Aspinall doesn’t really seem that special.

He's got great striking, speed, KO power, submissions and good wrestling. I can't think of a single UFC HW champion that had all of that.

 

[SuperAlly]

A 5 round decision over that gatekeeper is probably Ganes best win.

If you cant give credit to a guy almost clearing out his division in the space of 3 years by beating EVERYBODY in the first round then i'd say your standards are too high. How many HWs in history have you seen do the same?

How many guys in the entire UFC have 1st or 2nd round stoppage victories against that many of the current top 10 in their division? Hell, how many have win against that many of their current top 10 in their division? Not many I’ll bet.

 

[SuperAlly]

Tom might or might beat Jon.

And we will likely never find out as Jon will hide from him.

However, irrespective of all that, Tom’s quality as a heavyweight is clear for everyone to see who doesn’t watch MMA with their eyes closed. From watching his fights and looking at his record, he is clearly a very special talent at HW and you only look like a rip roaring spastic by trying to argue otherwise.

 

[Tweak896]

They know if they did Aspinall Jones there would be no Stipe Jones fight to milk. I think HW is always fucked since before Cain came in. Aspinall had a short notice fight for winning interim title and then defended it by making up his only loss. Yeah it sucks to wait for a fight to happen, but atleast this isn't as bad as when Cruz was champ. He'll be champ if Jones retires or we get Aspinall Jones. After that fight I don't know who's even next.

 

[icemun]

They can glaze him as the best when Jones retires. Jones is over the hill but we don't know how shot he is. It would be terrible if he beats Aspinall then retired.

Aspinall can run that division. There aren't many wrestlers at HW. Aspinall can't wrestle well but in his own words he has a rugby spear/tackle that is unstoppable in the gym.

If that first fight at HW is an indication of how shot Jones is, who can possibly say-

 

[icemun]

It's really puzzling to me why the UFC isn't pushing the Aspinall vs Jones fight. You would think that they're eager to make Aspinall a big star by letting him fight Jones. But nope Dana is dead insist on making Jones vs Stipe, a fight no real fans want to see. And pretty much wasting Aspinall's star potential.

He's charismatic, not fat, decent-looking, not a manlet, and a killer in the cage.

Like Tom has everything the UFC wants in a fighter. He's potentially the most special and scariest heavyweight/fighter out there. He has the lowest fight time out of any champions in UFC history by a country mile because he ran through everyone effortlessly.


If the UFC gave Aspinall the same push they did with Pereira, he would've been a bigger star than Alex.

Tom has had one or two PPVs at this point with three losses.

He has potential, but they put him against Jones and he loses, he will inevitably be forgotten faster than Gane and ALL the other fighters that have been has-beens as soon as Jones finishes him

Financially the UFC best move is to wait for Jones / Stipe before putting Tom in a position to be relegated back to free fight nights

 

[OldBoy91]

If that first fight at HW is an indication of how shot Jones is, who can possibly say-


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Well, Jon looked slow and lethargic on the feet, but that might be less him being washed and more him not being used to carrying the extra weight.

He looked great once he got it to the ground, but there's caveats there as well. Gane made the rookie mistake that lead to the takedown and then showed to be absolutely pathetic once he was on the floor. He was also thoroughly outwrestled by Ngannou, who, while im sure after years of MMA training is a somewhat competent wrestler, had one working leg at the time.

Really hard to take anything away from that fight for multiple reasons.

 

[roganisonly5foot3]

He seems like a nice enough guy and he’s definitely a beast in the cage but he has one major problem, he’s English. British people don’t buy pay per views and Americans just don’t care about English people. Sad but true.

 

[icemun]

Well, Jon looked slow and lethargic on the feet, but that might be less him being washed and more him not being used to carrying the extra weight.

He looked great once he got it to the ground, but there's caveats there as well. Gane made the rookie mistake that lead to the takedown and then showed to be absolutely pathetic once he was on the floor. He was also thoroughly outwrestled by Ngannou, who, while im sure after years of MMA training is a somewhat competent wrestler, had one working leg at the time.

Really hard to take anything away from that fight for multiple reasons.

Fair enough

But it was his easiest fight in his entire career.

 

[OldBoy91]

Fair enough

But it was his easiest fight in his entire career.

It was. I'm just not sure whether it was down to Jon being rejuvenated and better than ever, or Gane completely shitting the bed and having no wrestling or sub defense.

 

[orca]

Absolutely desperate stuff

its really desperate when hes trying to convince me
that volkov a decade long gatekeeper is aspinals great win

these aspinal huggers will lose every debate they go into