Does anyone else think Jon doesn't need Tom?

[L0ki]

His resume is already stacked and with bigger names.

And your mind is already made up about him: you either have him as GOAT/way up there or you think he cheats.

Boner needs to quit beating his meat and give that belt back.

UFC's HW needs to be reinvigorated and it can't do that without a face. It needs an active Champion that defends regularly and brings back that big fight feel.

No matter his reasons, it seems juvenile to hold back a division this long, teasing a fight you don't need, want to take, or whatever.



Whether you call duck or not, do you agree that it would be best for the company to strip the title to see the division grow? (Doubtful he will just hand the belt back).

Because Jon taking a weird fight here and there isn't cutting it and having a new Champion that actively defends would seem like a good way to start to reinvigorate the division.

What are some ideas for reinvigorating HW to have that big fight feel when it hosts HW fights?

 

[650lb Sumo]

There are 16 threads on Jones/Aspinall on the front page.

 

[nonoob]

Fluffer Luffy will be happy from the original thoughts in this thread.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

There are 16 threads on Jones/Aspinall on the front page.

They can’t help themselves. They need to start their own thread.

BECAUSE NOBODY IN SD History has ever posted one before.

These people honestly believe that Conor/Jones/ can do no wrong.

 

[podsox]

All depends on how Jon was with the money he earned

 

[-Sideways-]

This one fight would double JJ's worth. Given how he likes to spend his free time, no doubt the money would come in handy.

 

[CutStryker]

I agree, Jones doesn’t need Tom. Jones legacy is already written. Unless Jones beats Tom and cleans out the HW division, his legacy is complete.

 

[AMAZINGUFC]

His resume is already stacked and with bigger names.

And your mind is already made up about him: you either have him as GOAT/way up there or you think he cheats.

Boner needs to quit beating his meat and give that belt back.

UFC's HW needs to be reinvigorated and it can't do that without a face. It needs an active Champion that defends regularly and brings back that big fight feel.

No matter his reasons, it seems juvenile to hold back a division this long, teasing a fight you don't need, want to take, or whatever.



Whether you call duck or not, do you agree that it would be best for the company to strip the title to see the division grow? (Doubtful he will just hand the belt back).

Because Jon taking a weird fight here and there isn't cutting it and having a new Champion that actively defends would seem like a good way to start to reinvigorate the division.

What are some ideas for reinvigorating HW to have that big fight feel when it hosts HW fights?

What I think is that if we say we like fighting, we should want to see good fights happen.

 

[Alpha_T83]

It's the other way around bud. Tom doesn't need Jon. Jon Jones needs Tom Aspinall, he just doesn't realize it yet.

Tom Aspinall can go on and break the HW title defense record and become the HW GOAT in the future. And then Jon Jones' legacy is tarnished, because he will be remembered as the guy that ducked the true HW GOAT.

Whereas Jon Jones needs to fight Tom now, because that guarantees his legacy. If Jon beats Tom, then everything Tom does in his career ultimately gets credited to Jon Jones.

 

[Strijfy]

His resume is already stacked and with bigger names.

And your mind is already made up about him: you either have him as GOAT/way up there or you think he cheats.

Boner needs to quit beating his meat and give that belt back.

UFC's HW needs to be reinvigorated and it can't do that without a face. It needs an active Champion that defends regularly and brings back that big fight feel.

No matter his reasons, it seems juvenile to hold back a division this long, teasing a fight you don't need, want to take, or whatever.



Whether you call duck or not, do you agree that it would be best for the company to strip the title to see the division grow? (Doubtful he will just hand the belt back).

Because Jon taking a weird fight here and there isn't cutting it and having a new Champion that actively defends would seem like a good way to start to reinvigorate the division.

What are some ideas for reinvigorating HW to have that big fight feel when it hosts HW fights?

good, Jon can fuck off then and the division , and the fans can move on.
/thread

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

Tom is just hype, he he was not around they would be hyping some other can.

 

[Thy]

No sane person cares what jon wants or needs. We just wanna see fights actually happen and divisions not get held up.

 

[Tito Tapped]

There are 16 threads on Jones/Aspinall on the front page.

The fine MMA purists of Sherdog require popular stars and Jones is about all they have left.

 

[Joe.KO]

Jones doesn’t need to beat Tom to secure his legacy. We all know he’s GOAT tier.

However, he needs to fight Tom. If not - he takes a big L on his legacy and he’ll go out as one of the biggest ducks in history.

 

[BjPenn2017]

It's the other way around bud. Tom doesn't need Jon. Jon Jones needs Tom Aspinall, he just doesn't realize it yet.

Tom Aspinall can go on and break the HW title defense record and become the HW GOAT in the future. And then Jon Jones' legacy is tarnished, because he will be remembered as the guy that ducked the true HW GOAT.

Whereas Jon Jones needs to fight Tom now, because that guarantees his legacy. If Jon beats Tom, then everything Tom does in his career ultimately gets credited to Jon Jones.

LOL this sounds like some kind of a schizo fantasy, beyond reaching with this one

 

[Alpha_T83]

LOL this sounds like some kind of a schizo fantasy, beyond reaching with this one

LOLLLLLL dude. Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Explain to me how Jones ducking Aspinall, and Aspinall going on to become the HW GOAT doesn't end up ruining Jon's legacy.

Go on. I'd love to hear you explain that.

 

[Alpha_T83]

The fine MMA purists of Sherdog require popular stars and Jones is about all they have left.

Nah we just can't stand the duck.

If Jones had just done the honorable thing and retired/vacated months ago, like GSP did at middleweight, then none of us would be talking about him at all.

 

[TimeToTrain]

 

[SuperAlly]

Tom is just hype, he he was not around they would be hyping some other can.

Tell me you know nothing about MMA without telling me you know nothing about MMA

 

[Poirierfan]

Taking Stipe instead of Tom lowered Jon down a peg. If Jon woulda left after Stipe it wouldn't have been as bad as it is now. The optics are terrible, Jon has totally trashed what remained of his legacy while living his best gay life across the globe. Go clap guys cheeks all you want but let go of the belt ffs. Fake ass HW champ and a fake ass "straight guy".