Do you think Stipe will beat Ngannou for a 2nd time?

[mjfan23]

Depending on how old Francis really is. We know Stipe is a geriatric killer.

 

[The Chosen]

Have you seen rappers fight? Better leave it to the pros. Paddy Pimblett would tap him easily

casanova is more like a criminal turned rapper than a rapper wanting to be a criminal

 

[Final Say]

That's very very different, you can't draw conclusions. Ngannou is way longer than DC and not slow, the distance hierarchy is reversed. He may wind up, but often it's a trap. Especially he can alternate right hand over the top and right uppercut, Stipe got caught ducking into an uppercut i their first fight. He also counters right hands with long left hooks using his reach advantage.

And not to forget the obvious: DC landed a lots of shot on Stipe in their 3 fights. Ngannou wouldn't need to land half that many to get a finish.

Of course francis needs less to land but it’s way less likely to happen. I’m not saying francis is slow, On the contrary he’s extremely explosive and the hands move explosively. The problem is that his technique is very weak and he is throwing his hands, causing them to have to travel a much further distance and making them much easier to see coming (also gassing him out quicker). He throws from the hip or from behind his own body sometimes to generate that power. He does not punch like a boxer from the chamber. Boxing is designed to be lightning quick and impossible to see coming, Francis is not a boxer, he’s a brawler. DC punches with extremely clean technique with very little fat or wasted space on his strikes, Francis is the exact opposite.

He overwhelms a lot of people with this style but a well trained striker who can keep his calm and move his feet shouldn’t have a lot of trouble evading him.

If I can compare it to boxing, Francis is the Wilder to Stipe’s fury. Unfortunately for francis, stipe is also allowed to wrestle, rendering that explosive style even more useless after just a little bit of physical struggle.

 

[Vil7]

I think Stipe wins again but Ngannou hits hard & is surprisingly quick so he might catch him.

 

[Memeojima]

casanova is more like a criminal turned rapper than a rapper wanting to be a criminal

Chase Hooper would win any way he chooses

 

[Dacha]

Ngannou has better chances winning second time around.

I belive Stipe falsely belives Ngannou is good matchup for him.

 

[realdmone1]

I ABSOLUTELY KNOW FOR A FACT THAT STIPE WILL WIN AGAIN

 

[Sinedd]

I favor Ngannou, assuming he uses his leg kicks

 

[eddi]

Francis is a much better fighter now. His stance is wrestling ready and he has, judging from said stance and many interviews, been focusing on grappling ever since Stipe loss. Not only that, he seems more calculated, has powerful kicks that he shown against Junior dos Santos.

Nah he's the exact same fighter, this time he gets finished by stipe and you cucks go home packing

 

[Ibm]

ngannou is going to win in a devestating fashion.

 

[HP_Nut]

I don't know if Stipe was training in less than ideal conditions during Covid but he looked sloppier in the 3rd DC fight than even just 1 yr before that (the 2nd DC fight). Yes, I'm aware he still won the 3rd DC fight. It is possible Stipe is declining & getting old, despite winning the 3rd DC fight. Stipe is definitely more well rounded though. Ngannou has been on a tear but its not like he's showing us anything we didn't know before that (that he has nightmare KO power), so its hard to predict

 

[JonJonesNeedle]

Yes I think Stipe will beat Francis, though with his power Francis has a shot against anyone.

Francis hasn't really improved as some would say. He took out those dinosaurs Cain and JDS. He clipped Blaydes and bumrushed Bigi boy. These are things he did before fighting Stipe. Stipe has much better footwork than Bigi boy and better counters and can wrestle. Francis hasn't been challenged much we haven't seen this wrestling defense that others are hyping up.

I also think Francis will be scared when he is across the Octagon from Stipe. I believe whatever gameplan he comes in with will go out of his head and he will attempt to bumrush stipe and ko him quick. Which could happen as Stipe is slower and older, but is also more experienced.

 

[Romo Gracie]

I don’t think Ngannou will drain his gasstank in the first round against Stipe this time. But his attempt to KO Stipe will be with sloppy punches like he did against Rozenstruik. I am sure Ngannou wont engage in a wrestling match with Stipe, and Stipe isn’t only striking with him. I think this one will go to a decision to Stipe.

 

[markg171]

No. Stipe won the first fight via mobility, head movement, and wrestling. All of which have seemingly disappeared. Stipe now stops himself hard whenever he throws, even just for jabs. His ability to throw on the move is gone. And he's way too slow moving in for grappling/clinching. His head movement goes without saying disappeared in all 3 Cormier fights.

He's getting KO'd in the 1st.

 

[PlasticFishBowl]

Stipe is old now and took a decent amount of damage in the DC trilogy. For these reasons, I think he gets caught and likely goes out in the 1st. I think Jones probably beats Ngannou though later in 2021. He still has the quickness and cardio to evade.

 

[g*r*b]

I don't know if Stipe was training in less than ideal conditions during Covid but he looked sloppier in the 3rd DC fight than even just 1 yr before that (the 2nd DC fight). Yes, I'm aware he still won the 3rd DC fight. It is possible Stipe is declining & getting old, despite winning the 3rd DC fight. Stipe is definitely more well rounded though. Ngannou has been on a tear but its not like he's showing us anything we didn't know before that (that he has nightmare KO power), so its hard to predict

Let's not forget that because of his eye injury he had to refrain from training for a long time. And Stipe's the sort that otherwise trains year round, not just for fights. Then just when he gets the all-clear from the doc, COVID hits and closes down the gyms. So yeah, they really had to ramp up from a lower baseline than for almost any other fight.

 

[DeformedGravy]

Ngannou hasn't shown anything he didn't in the lead up to their first fight.

Hes just knocking people out faster with his windmill punches.

Could he land one of those haymakers quick enough? Sure. But I'd take Stipe by being more of a MMAist. He has more options.

 

[RedCansLoom16]

I think Francis has a better chance this time. Stipe is 39, has been KO’d since their 1st meeting. Idk if he can take the shots from Ngannou that he took the first time.

I like Stipe, but I don’t think he’ll ever be an active champ again. I think Francis would be and I think the division has needed that for a long time. Since Cain/JDS 3 on 10/19/13, that belt has been defended 9 times. 9 times in over 7 years.

 

[joeson]

Depends on which version of both fights show up. Ngannou has been both the patient counter striker and the impatient wild haymaker striker.

If Stipe is not too damaged from his fights with Cormier and he hasn’t gotten too old, and if the impatient wild version of Ngannou shows up, we’ll get a repeat of the first fight. Seeing as how frustrated Ngannou is with how long this fight is taking, this is a real possibility.

That being said, if a damaged or old version of Stipe shows up and Ngannou is patient, I see Ngannou stuffing takedowns and knocking him out.

Where it gets interesting is if both guys show up in their best form. A smart, tactical Stipe that mixes takedowns, feints and head movement vs a patent, counter striking Ngannou with his reaction time in top form could be an interesting and very competitive fight.

 

[Final Say]

No. Stipe won the first fight via mobility, head movement, and wrestling. All of which have seemingly disappeared. Stipe now stops himself hard whenever he throws, even just for jabs. His ability to throw on the move is gone. And he's way too slow moving in for grappling/clinching. His head movement goes without saying disappeared in all 3 Cormier fights.

He's getting KO'd in the 1st.

Lol stipe had good head movement in a lot of exchanges against cormier and the only reason it looked worse is because cormier has fast hands and good technique. It’s a way different stylistic match up and a lot harder to exhibit good defense with the head against cormier than francis.


Lol at saying his ability to throw on the move is gone when he’s only fought cormier. Terrible analysis tbh