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Do you believe a person can be born evil?


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Wow. I'm surprised at the result. It's currently 9 yes, 1 no. The no being me.

I think people are generally molted by their environment they are exposed to. What is acceptable what isn't, actions or thoughts.

Also I might add, doing bad things doesn't necessary make a person evil.
Generally they indeed are. But there are outliers. It's like psychopaths whose brains don't produce or process the hormones the right way so they have no empathy.
It doesn't mean that with the right upbringing 99,9% of people can't become decent, but people who are born evil do exist.
 
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Yes

Some people had good comfort life growing up and still are absolute pieces of shit
Some people had terrible crap life and still end up being good because their nature is that

Sure life happenings have big weight on person final score, but some just born to be worse some to be better, no matter what
 
Wow. I'm surprised at the result. It's currently 9 yes, 1 no. The no being me.

I think people are generally molted by their environment they are exposed to. What is acceptable what isn't, actions or thoughts.

Also I might add, doing bad things doesn't necessary make a person evil.

I also voted "No," but as with many things, this comes down to semantics. Most people see themselves as the hero of their own story, and if you look at what makes "bad" people tick, they think they're making the world a better place, at least from their perspective. People can be born with a propensity for psychopathy or sociopathy, but are they truly "evil?" I don't think so.

Edit: several folks citing Jeffrey Dahmer, but this doesn't sound like an ideal childhood to me:

Childhood

Jeffrey Dahmer was born on May 21, 1960, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin,[11] the first of two sons to Lionel Herbert Dahmer, a Marquette University chemistry student and later a research chemist, and Joyce Annette Dahmer (née Flint), a teletype machine instructor.[12][13] Lionel was of German and Welsh ancestry,[14] and Joyce was of Norwegian and Irish ancestry.[15]

Some sources report Dahmer was deprived of attention as an infant.[16] Other sources, however, suggest that Dahmer was generally doted upon as an infant and toddler by both parents, although his mother was known to be tense, greedy for both attention and pity, and argumentative with her husband and their neighbors.[17]

As Dahmer entered first grade, Lionel's studies kept him away from home much of the time. When he was home, his wife—a hypochondriac who suffered from depression—demanded constant attention and spent an increasing amount of time in bed.[18] On one occasion, she attempted suicide using Equanil.[18] Neither parent devoted much time to their son, who later recollected that, from an early age, he felt "unsure of the solidity of the family",[19] recalling extreme tension and numerous arguments between his parents during his early years.[20]

Dahmer had been an "energetic and happy child" but became notably subdued after undergoing double hernia surgery shortly before his fourth birthday.[21][22] At elementary school, Dahmer was regarded as quiet and timid. One teacher recollected she detected early signs of abandonment[23] due to his father's absence and mother's illnesses, the symptoms of which increased when she became pregnant with her second child.[24] In elementary school, Dahmer had a small number of friends.[25]

In October 1966, the family moved to Doylestown, Ohio.[26] When Joyce gave birth in December, Dahmer was allowed to choose the name of his new baby brother; he chose the name David.[27] The same year, Lionel earned his degree[28] and started work as an analytical chemist in nearby Akron, Ohio.[29]

From an early age, Dahmer manifested an interest in dead animals. His fascination with dead animals may have begun when, at the age of four, he saw his father removing animal bones from beneath the family home. According to Lionel, Dahmer was "oddly thrilled" by the sound the bones made, and became preoccupied with animal bones, which he initially called his "fiddlesticks". He occasionally searched beneath and around the family home for additional bones, and explored the bodies of live animals to discover where their bones were located.[18]

In May 1968, the family moved to Bath Township, Summit County, Ohio.[30][n 3] This address was their third in two years, and the Dahmers' sixth address since marriage.[32][n 4] The home stood in one and a half acres of woodland, with a small hut a short walk from the house where Dahmer began collecting large insects and the skeletons of small animals, such as chipmunks and squirrels.[33] Some of these remains were preserved in jars of formaldehyde and stored within the hut.[34]

Two years later, during a chicken dinner, Dahmer asked Lionel what would happen if the chicken bones were placed in bleach.[35] Lionel, pleased by what he believed to be his son's scientific curiosity, demonstrated how to safely bleach and preserve animal bones. Dahmer incorporated these preserving techniques into his bone collecting. He also began collecting dead animals—including roadkill[36]—which he would dissect and bury beside the hut, with the skulls occasionally placed atop makeshift crosses.
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According to one friend, Dahmer explained that he was curious as to how animals "fit together".[38] In one instance in 1975, Dahmer decapitated the carcass of a dog before nailing the body to a tree and impaling the skull upon a stick in the woodland behind his house.[39] As a "prank", he later invited a friend to view the display, claiming he had discovered the remains by chance.[40] The same year Lionel taught his son how to preserve animal bones, Joyce began increasing her daily consumption of Equanil, laxatives and sleeping pills, further increasing her emotional distance from her husband and children.[35]



Would better parenting have prevented Dahmer from becoming a human piece of shit? I don't know but I think it's debatable.
 
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I don't believe anybody can be born good or born bad. They are simply born. What happens after that comes to personal responsibility.

Kids who are treated wonderfully can become monsters and kids who were treated horrendously can become saviors.
 
People we label as "evil" are either mentally ill, or they are conditioned. Sometimes both.

People just take some comfort in imagining this behaviour is the result of some other worldly force that could never touch a "good" person like them.
 
Talking about born evil this kid killed both his parents
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Yes, some people are born evil. At the very least born with greater capacity for evil.

Their circumstances can help them mitigate it, sometimes. But if you’re born predisposed to serious evil it’s hard to say what exactly would help.
 
Good up bringing isn't really the issue it's the amount of reciprocation the child receives. How they gain self worth and respect by how they are treàted. The brain develops around this and seeing effort and good behaviour unreciprocated leads to gaps in development.
 
Yes. Working in the medical field you sometimes come across psychopaths (antisocial personality disorder). I’ve met some parents of these people that were good people and they came from good homes. When they are kids, there are always warning signs. They lack empathy and often laugh or are amused by the suffering of animals and other people. Parents try to put them into therapy and do everything they can to “help” but they still grow up to be psychopaths.
 
"Evil" implies supernatural or some outside force. So...no.

Can people be born with mental issues and wired "wrong" and without empathy? Absolutely. That's all you are really seeing it.
No it doesn’t. Evil implies lack of or fucked up morality. There definitely evil people.
 
I think you can be. I mean someone like Hitler was quite clearly born evil. I mean he had a good upbringing, right?


I dunno

Don't get me wrong I'm not defending the guy.

But I think he went through some bad shit in ww1 and post war Germany was rough. Not excusing the guy just sayin.
 
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