International Did COVID come from a Lab in China? US Energy Dept asserts it was a lab leak [megathread]

[Deleted member 585708]

Yep you bury your head in the sand.

So your criteria for our bet is now if you find some obscure random fuel station selling it in the middle of nowhere for less, that's your idea of fuel price having dropped to that amount? Because last time I looked, everywhere still around the 1.70 mark.

Depends where you live doesn't it.

Been around 1.60 here for some time.

 

[Greco_Wiz]

I have been posting about the origin of Covid-19 in the other thread. I will reproduce my most recent post from that thread here, but it is better to read in the other thread because I link each post to the previous post there: https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...gathread-vol-2.4265991/page-99#post-170047137

The smoking gun evidence that Covid-19 is lab made come from two parts of the virus:
1) The Furin cleavage site (which includes the sequence CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG from Moderna patent 9,587,003 filed on Feb. 4, 2016)
2) Three separate Gp-120 sequences

1) The Furin cleavage site with the Moderna patented sequence is covered in previous posts, but Igor Chudov gives further explanation of where to find the CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG sequence in the patent. From: https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/where-is-ctcctcggcgggcacgtag-in-the

Spoiler

So the string here is “ctacgtgc ccgccgagga g” (ignore spaces). Typing it more neatly, we get: CTACGTGCCCGCCGAGGAG in the Moderna patent sequence 11652.

Go to the “Reverse Complement Calculator”:

https://bugaco.com/calculators/dna_reverse_complement.php

Now type in the genes from Sars-Cov-2 (which is CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG):

2) As for the three separate Gp-120 peptide inserts, a very good analysis is here: https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/absolute-proof-the-gp-120-sequences

Spoiler

Aspect #1: The function of these inserts - that didn’t exist before 2019 in any coronavirus - were clearly stated as the intention of the DARPA DEFUSE proposal

In case you haven’t seen it, this is the document (archived here). You can see the involved players - Peter Daszak and Ecohealth Alliance.

If you look through the proposal you probably won’t make much of it because it looks like they were actually trying to look at “defusing” the threat of coronaviruses. The only problem is that they weren’t doing that at all. This is what they said they were going to do. In their words (the yellow highlights are the most important bits):

So they were going to introduce furin cleavage sites and sites binding DC-SIGN into coronaviruses (what could possibly go wrong?). Well, we know about the furin cleavage site already. What the hell is DC-SIGN, and what is needed to bind it.

Well, you might think this is a coincidence but….

That’s just one paper, there are many on DC-SIGN <=> Gp120 binding. Essentially it’s part of the mechanism that HIV-1 uses to bypass the immune system and gain entry to the very cells that keep your immune system working (T-cells).

This means that the Ecohealth proposal in 2018 described exactly the two changes made to existing SARS-coronaviruses that resulted in SARS-CoV-2 in 2019. Billions of years of random evolutionary change (that could never have been possible because there were no humans living in the bat cave for the evolutionary changes to promulgate) happened in 1 year. Then the authors of the proposal and all of their connected chums went into overdrive to dispel any talk of what you can now see is completely obvious. (If you haven’t seen Chris Martenson’s excellent review of the people involved and their nefarious meeting you should).

Had enough yet? Well, I haven’t because this is the final piece that proves irrefutably (as if the above wasn’t enough) that this was man-made.

Aspect #2: The genome sequences coding those Gp-120 loops don’t exist
...
And there we have it. 3 gene sequences.

• None of them exist in viruses.
  
  
• One of them doesn’t exist in nature at all.

Yet they appear in a virus that arose from nowhere, 1 year after Ecohealth said they were going to make one that did exactly what they proposed. And they produce peptides that arise exactly on the binding sites of the virus.

Cliffs: Both the Furin Cleavage Site and the Gp-120 inserts (using terminology DC-SIGN) are described in a grant application from 2018 submitted by EcoHealth Alliance. The Covid-19 Furin Cleavage Site contains a Moderna patented sequence (you cannot patent what exists in nature) and of the three Gp-120 inserts, two exist only in bacteriophages (Bacteriophages are viruses that infect bacteria and that wouldn't recombine naturally with bat or pangolin viruses), and one is not described in nature at all.

I’m sure when you post crap like this you hope no one who actually understands biology reads it, but unfortunately for you, some of us can see this shit for exactly what it is — another example of someone who reads something, has no ability to vet it, but becomes convinced because of surface level logic combined with ignorance of biology.

First, CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG is not the coding sequence. It’s not the furin cleavage sequence. It’s the reverse complement of the sequence. It doesn’t translate into amino acids. It makes no sense to have that sequence patented rather than the actual coding strand sequence. The nefarious evil geniuses apparently didn’t understand the direction of translation.

What the conspiracy tards did is literally search SARSCOV2 against every patent ever held by Moderna (and prob Pfizer). They kept loosening the search parameters (I do this all the time) and finally found a short sequence that matches a completely unrelated patented sequence dealing with modified cancer-related proteins. No connection whatsoever to a coronavirus.

Alternatively, the furin cleavage site is riddled with genetic signatures of natural origin. Very little question that the FCS is natural.

As for your other piece of “evidence.” The geniuses behind that idea withdrew their paper when it was still in preprint, less than a week after becoming available, because it was absolutely ripped apart by the field.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v2
I’d take the time to go over it, but this paper does a decent job.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7033698/

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Yep you bury your head in the sand.

So your criteria for our bet is now if you find some obscure random fuel station selling it in the middle of nowhere for less, that's your idea of fuel price having dropped to that amount? Because last time I looked, everywhere still around the 1.70 mark.

By the way, if you're interested in Part 2 of the bet, you set the terms.

You're saying it goes back up, but how fast, and how high?

Back over the 2 quid mark by June?

What's your prediction?

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Wrecked

great video. Crazy how much trump was attacked for being correct as always.

love how these media outlets treat their readers like litttle kids who need to be spoonfed everything lol.

“Surprise! Here is an explainer you!” Like anyone should ever trust this publication again for how they gotten every story of the last half decade wrong

 

[Mr Holmes]

 

[chardog]

I always thought it came from the lab. I thought it was an intentional leak but either way it came from the lab.


That said, does anyone find the timing suspect. Administration and msm denied common sense for years and just 2 weeks after the China spy balloon we just happened to come to this conclusion?

We're basically China or North Korea at this point. Our government knew it came from a lab but that fact was inconvenient over the last couple years. Now this information can be weaponized against the Chinese.... who just damaged the biden administration so it's time to confirm common sense.

We don't get the news. We don't have real journalists in this country. Facts are only worth reporting if there's something to gain

At this point, it doesn’t matter where it came from, just drumming up the next war and reasons to fund it.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

By the way, if you're interested in Part 2 of the bet, you set the terms.

You're saying it goes back up, but how fast, and how high?

Back over the 2 quid mark by June?

What's your prediction?

Don't need any add ons. I thought the criteria of our bet was just fuel prices across both fuels to drop below 1.50. And a fair measure if that 2ouod obviously be a national average rather than handpicking a select couple of places that do it for less.

 

[kahiljabroni]

At this point, it doesn’t matter where it came from, just drumming up the next war and reasons to fund it.

That's my point... they hid the info when we could have used it. They now release it when it doesn't matter just to shift our focus where they want it now.

And they already have their much needed war in Ukraine

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Don't need any add ons. I thought the criteria of our bet was just fuel prices across both fuels to drop below 1.50. And a fair measure if that 2ouod obviously be a national average rather than handpicking a select couple of places that do it for less.

Looks like it's going to stick at 151 anyway, so it's a moot point.

 

[ShadowRun]

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

Looks like it's going to stick at 151 anyway, so it's a moot point.

So I win?

 

[Fluffernutter]

How much ad revenue has CBS made from Big Pharma since 2019?

 

[White Whale]

Stephen Colbert is pleasing his big pharma and CCP overlords.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Stephen Colbert is pleasing his big pharma and CCP overlords.

 

[SheetsMMAfan]

YEAH! Stay in your lane Dept of Energy!

Meanwhile, him slobbering on Gates dick and talking COVID with a dude that made computer software...

 

[ineverpost]

The US could not blame China at the start of the pandemic because they make all of our critical supplies. China could end our country right now by shutting off the supply of goods but it would cause them just as much damage.

 

[Snubnoze707]

YEAH! Stay in your lane Dept of Energy!

Meanwhile, him slobbering on Gates dick and talking COVID with a dude that made computer software...

I'm not even sure that college drop out even made the software. Seems like he just stole a lot of shit.

Gates made out like a bandit as well. Invest 5 million into BioNTech in 2019 then cash out of stocks at 10x return on investment.

The "Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation" had hundreds of millions invested in various vaccine producing companies as well.

So I think it's pretty clear why this nerd started to act like some health expert all of a sudden...

 

[Snubnoze707]

The US could not blame China at the start of the pandemic because they make all of our critical supplies. China could end our country right now by shutting off the supply of goods but it would cause them just as much damage.

Well, and the US is culpable. We funded that research and urged them to do it.

This is the biggest piece of the story people keep missing.

This isn't the US vs China, this is the People vs US/China.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Can you imagine that Trump actually pushed to investigate into this?

Well, and the US is culpable. We funded that research and urged them to do it.

This is the biggest piece of the story people keep missing.

This isn't the US vs China, this is the People vs US/China.

It is weird that Obama actually tried to shut it down.... but Biden is all for it. Probably cause Hunter has investments in Biolabs. Now lets see how these labs are connected to Hunter Biden. Or dis another CT? <45>

 

[chardog]

That's my point... they hid the info when we could have used it. They now release it when it doesn't matter just to shift our focus where they want it now.

And they already have their much needed war in Ukraine

in case ukraine is lost, need a plan b to keep the MIC going