International Did COVID come from a Lab in China? US Energy Dept asserts it was a lab leak [megathread]

US Energy Dept asserted this with “low confidence,” which is the same as another agency asserted the natural animal to human jump. That was also asserted at “low confidence.”
The truth is that we still don’t know.

I for one have no skin in the game as far as which is true—the reason CTers get shit for this is for jumping to the conclusion via pulling said conclusion out of their ass. That’s the problem, and even if they end up being proven right by coincidence or dumb luck, that doesn’t negate their illogical thought process. That is what I took issue with.
 
BFoe said:
US Energy Dept asserted this with “low confidence,” which is the same as another agency asserted the natural animal to human jump. That was also asserted at “low confidence.”
The truth is that we still don’t know.

I for one have no skin in the game as far as which is true—the reason CTers get shit for this is for jumping to the conclusion via pulling said conclusion out of their ass. That’s the problem, and even if they end up being proven right by coincidence or dumb luck, that doesn’t negate their illogical thought process. That is what I took issue with.
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Yes, they just "pulled out their ass" a random CT that a virus originated at a biolab.

You just big mad that you're an idiot that brushed these legit concerns off. LMAO, love to see it! <45><45><45>
 
BFoe said:
US Energy Dept asserted this with “low confidence,” which is the same as another agency asserted the natural animal to human jump. That was also asserted at “low confidence.”
The truth is that we still don’t know.

I for one have no skin in the game as far as which is true—the reason CTers get shit for this is for jumping to the conclusion via pulling said conclusion out of their ass. That’s the problem, and even if they end up being proven right by coincidence or dumb luck, that doesn’t negate their illogical thought process. That is what I took issue with.
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How is this conclusion illogical?
 
Fugazy said:
How is this conclusion illogical?
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It is almost like they based these illogical conclusions of readily available emails and documents that shoed gain of function on coronaviruses at the Wuhan lab, the exact place where this virus came from.

OH THE HUMANITY!

it has truly been an amazing few years and now as the truth comes out, these assholes have to look themselves in the mirror. Beautiful <45><45>

edit: and they always hand on to somrething like, "low confidence". Yea no shit they add that in, because they not going to contradict Biden flat out and put him in an awkward poisition.
 
cottagecheesefan said:
It is almost like they based these illogical conclusions of readily available emails and documents that shoed gain of function on coronaviruses at the Wuhan lab, the exact place where this virus came from.

OH THE HUMANITY!

it has truly been an amazing few years and now as the truth comes out, these assholes have to look themselves in the mirror. Beautiful <45><45>

edit: and they always hand on to somrething like, "low confidence". Yea no shit they add that in, because they not going to contradict Biden flat out and put him in an awkward poisition.
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Shit we all saw Woody get ripped by the media and endure a stand up set where everyone was scared to laugh. Just for telling the truth.

These fucks are pathetic.
 
haven't really looked at it but is this one of those ''research suggests'' things
 
BFoe said:
US Energy Dept asserted this with “low confidence,” which is the same as another agency asserted the natural animal to human jump. That was also asserted at “low confidence.”
The truth is that we still don’t know.

I for one have no skin in the game as far as which is true—the reason CTers get shit for this is for jumping to the conclusion via pulling said conclusion out of their ass. That’s the problem, and even if they end up being proven right by coincidence or dumb luck, that doesn’t negate their illogical thought process. That is what I took issue with.
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I can understand this sentiment to some degree, but it’s very frustrating that health authorities are just as guilty of what you describe, yet they enjoy almost no pushback and nobody on one side of the political aisle will admit to their malfeasance. Fauci squashed the lab leak hypothesis but you want to point fingers at “CTers” for positing that a likely scenario is that the virus escaped from a lab that was studying the same virus in the same location? Weird.
 
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Reffson said:
They were discussing it on CNN, which likely means they're using it to distract us away from the document's scandals and chem-train disaster. Control the narrative, control the people. It's old news.
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Nah, this is way bigger than distracting from thw train. This was an intentional leak to start framing China as the enemy, since they clearly dont give a shit what this admin is saying, and are already helping Russia. Just like the Wuhan lab CT, it was a CT/dumb far right person, to say China is directly helping Russia with the Ukraine conflict, and everyone say blah blah China doesn't want to fuck around and find out.

Well, the truth is, not a CT, is that they do want to fuck around and find out. Now all these honey potted politicians and corporations are going to find Trumpism and get on the anti-China campaign as they continue to get more brazen.

Simple as.

And it is now all just a cluster fuck because these honey potted people are getting caught in their lies and schemes because China does have the upperhand now and these people sold out our country
 
why would they want to kill themselves? It was a bioattack by foreign forces, probably the US.
 
Bald1 said:
Low confidence.

That's better than wholesale dismissal and at least leaves room for discussion. And that's been the problem these last 3 years, right, you couldn't even talk about half these plausible theories without getting labeled as some sort of a kook.

Contrition: what is it and how does it benefit relationships and society? Some people really have to take time out for reflection.
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People keep saying that but it really isn't true.

Washington Post had articles about a potential lab leak as early as April of 2020. Multiple other outlets had articles on it shortly after. Even 60 Minutes on TV did a special on it early 2021. This is about as mainstream as it gets.

The lab leak has almost from the very start been seen as a possibility, albeit not a likely one, despite dopes on the internet claiming otherwise.
 
HOLA said:
People keep saying that but it really isn't true.

Washington Post had articles about a potential lab leak as early as April of 2020. Multiple other outlets had articles on it shortly after. Even 60 Minutes on TV did a special on it early 2021. This is about as mainstream as it gets.

The lab leak has almost from the very start been seen as a possibility, albeit not a likely one, despite dopes on the internet claiming otherwise.
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The idea was censored on social media and people who proposed the possibility were actively diminished here as well as in real life. That's just reality.

As for not likely? That's exactly backwards.
 
Rob Battisti said:
I don’t even think it was an intentional leak. It was definitely a leak and subsequent cover up. No country wanted to admit to investigate because it would have HUGE ramifications that they didn’t want to face.
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I also do not think it was intentional, to be clear, and most in the "CT community" do not as well. But yes, they did cover it up, and then people like Fauci and his buddies clearly lies about their ties to the lab and what they were doing, while at the same time making big $$$

They had to cover it up, because it was their direct greed and scheming that allowed this to happen. At the very least, they need to be tried for perjury under oath in congress. At most for conspiracy, treason, etc. And that is truth.
 
Bald1 said:
The idea was censored on social media and people who proposed the possibility were actively diminished here as well as in real life. That's just reality.

As for not likely? That's exactly backwards.
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exactly. how are so many ignoring this ? people were banned/silenced on Youtube and twitter for floating/discussing this lab leak theory.

now we're going to pretend, "oh, we always thought it was a possibility. what's the big deal?!?"
 
Bald1 said:
The idea was censored on social media and people who proposed the possibility were actively diminished here as well as in real life. That's just reality.

As for not likely? That's exactly backwards.
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But we're still at the point where the number of departments studying this in the US are 4-2 against the lab leak hypothesis.

This might change in time, but there's nothing like being premature.

I, myself, was obviously premature when I'd thought (incorrectly) that the lab leak hypothesis had been ruled out.

It might be that, tomorrow, or next week, or next year, they find the bat/pangolin/panda bear/space alien that has the exact reservoir they're looking for, and that it flips back again.
 
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