News Devin Haney sues Ryan Garcia

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thats a pretty good summary of the thread so far

 

[WklySportsMemes]

The drugs found in Garcia’s system (Ostarine) specifically allows for a rapid reduction in weight without sacrificing muscle mass. Haney meanwhile was drained because he actually made title fight weight without shortcuts meaning loss of muscle quality. You have to be brain dead to argue that drugs didn’t help him Garcia win that fight. If Garcia doesn’t take osterine and actually has to make weight the correct way those left hooks aren’t as snappy and powerful.

Brain dead...or have other motives not explored or willing to stand on in a public forum.

 

[StonedLemur]

thats a pretty good summary of the thread so far

Lol I figured a little levity was needed here sir.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

The PEDs and Weight difference played a roll in the hooks and Garcias ability to take Haneys shots. Don’t be ridiculous. Cite all the jobbers you like.

Also, doesn't seem like they understand how cycling on & off banned substances works.

To me the fighters who use the justification of "it was only x amount" are now suspect themselves.
We know PEDs are an issue and that many top level athletes still cheat & beat the system. So I would guess many cheaters would try to justify it too. Bad look.

 

[Blastbeat]

The PEDs and Weight difference played a roll in the hooks and Garcias ability to take Haneys shots. Don’t be ridiculous. Cite all the jobbers you like.

Also, doesn't seem like they understand how cycling on & off banned substances works.

To me the fighters who use the justification of "it was only x amount" are now suspect themselves.
We know PEDs are an issue and that many top level athletes still cheat & beat the system. So I would guess many cheaters would try to justify it too. Bad look.

Haney hasnt knocked someone out since 2019, so i dont think Garcia needed anything to be able to take Haney's punches. Haney just doesnt hit very hard.
but anyone who knows anything basic about PEDs would know it certainly affected Garcia's speed, power and gas tank. thats why theyre called Performance Enhancing Drugs.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

Also, doesn't seem like they understand how cycling on & off banned substances works.

To me the fighters who use the justification of "it was only x amount" are now suspect themselves.
We know PEDs are an issue and that many top level athletes still cheat & beat the system. So I would guess many cheaters would try to justify it too. Bad look.

They made up their mind to support Garcia and they aren’t gonna change their tune. The fucked up part is… I was one of the few supporters I can recall going into the Tank fight, Ryan had almost no fans around here. After the circus with Haney and the public meltdowns and suspensions that followed its like his fanbase has more than quadrupled. Like all this shit was him cutting a clever heel promo. He’s not fucking Ric Flair, he’s fucking trash. Can’t understand why ANYONE likes this little shit.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Haney hasnt knocked someone out since 2019, so i dont think Garcia needed anything to be able to take Haney's punches. Haney just doesnt hit very hard.
but anyone who knows anything basic about PEDs would know it certainly affected Garcia's speed, power and gas tank. thats why theyre called Performance Enhancing Drugs.

Then they are also still intentionally ignoring the fact of weight divisions & making weight. Coming in larger 100% does give you more power & makes you less depleted. It wasn't like he missed weight with a beer belly or from inactivity. He could of made the weight and chose not to for the advantage. Ryan has said this & the weight cutting specialist they brought in has said this repeatedly.

Not only that, look at the dudes track record. He has NO credibility. Lies non stop & his life revolves around his image & clout chasing. Also, one of the biggest hypocritical fake religious goofs of our era. Of course somebody like that would cheat and lie about it. Lol
Not only did he fail the actual drug test he fails on character credibility to even give him the benefit of the doubt.

Thats why I believe there are definitely hidden agendas from the people who still defend Garcia or his actions in any way.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

They made up their mind to support Garcia and they aren’t gonna change their tune. The fucked up part is… I was one of the few supporters I can recall going into the Tank fight, Ryan had almost no fans around here. After the circus with Haney and the public meltdowns and suspensions that followed its like his fanbase has more than quadrupled. Like all this shit was him cutting a clever heel promo. He’s not fucking Ric Flair, he’s fucking trash. Can’t understand why ANYONE likes this little shit.

That's American culture. If you're rich and have social media followers you will get an army of Stans & apologist. White washes everything.

I at first became a fan of him as a boxer because he legit had so much hate against him as a prospect. I admit I never followed his social media back then. So now I'm thinking maybe other people just knew he was a legit douche nozzle back then.
But the man showed heart and had dynamite power. Then when he stalled his career and spoke out about mental illness I defended him on here. I thought people were bullying a successful talented young man because they were jealous of his looks and success outside of boxing.....
BOY WAS I WRONG. Dude grew into a complete monster. Another Hollyweird petulant child star turned rotten.

I have a few theories why people like him:
- Boxing will ALWAYS have its fans who strictly worship fighters for race or nationality. ON ALL SIDES. Many slobs, bums, & non athletically gifted men get a false sense of pride & accomplishment from latching on to thinking they somehow "have the same blood of a fighter." Like somehow a real life Steve Urkel is a better athlete because LeBron James does superhuman things....lmao

-Some people just love what him & Teo are saying right now but don't want to deal with the labels & social consequences that come with it. So they hide behind defending & keeping they dude relevant.

- Like it or not sports with buff half naked dudes attract a lot of homosexuals & closeted homosexuals. Ryan is considered attractive and has a whole career outside of boxing for his looks. I am sure Ryan has a lot of Stans that are trying to trick him out of his trunks... Unfortunately he has already claimed to have been a victim of this & shows a lot of signs of trauma. Remember Sherdog is known as a place were there are hundred page threads about "TST," men's looks and hair type, dong size, & how attractive fighters are.....enough said.

 

[moosaev]

They made up their mind to support Garcia and they aren’t gonna change their tune. The fucked up part is… I was one of the few supporters I can recall going into the Tank fight, Ryan had almost no fans around here. After the circus with Haney and the public meltdowns and suspensions that followed its like his fanbase has more than quadrupled. Like all this shit was him cutting a clever heel promo. He’s not fucking Ric Flair, he’s fucking trash. Can’t understand why ANYONE likes this little shit.

It's schadenfraude man.....Haney has haters from all corners. The Loma/eastern euro dick riders despise him because they feel Loma got robbed, the Tank crowd despise him because he's not Tank and they think he's corny, and the Mexicans despise him because they think he's trying to be Floyd and Garcia at least has Mexican heritage. It was the perfect storm lol.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

If Sherdog is an accurate representation of fan sentiment, this lawsuit makes Hanley look like a bitch lol. Should've been campaigning for a rematch instead

 

[Misery Signals]

It's schadenfraude man.....Haney has haters from all corners. The Loma/eastern euro dick riders despise him because they feel Loma got robbed, the Tank crowd despise him because he's not Tank and they think he's corny, and the Mexicans despise him because they think he's trying to be Floyd and Garcia at least has Mexican heritage. It was the perfect storm lol.

Haney has been disliked for a long time. Any boring fighter with an unlikable personality and even more unlikable father who also needs to be a part of things isn't going to be popular.

 

[moosaev]

Haney has been disliked for a long time. Any boring fighter with an unlikable personality and even more unlikable father who also needs to be a part of things isn't going to be popular.

Haney is a boring fighter, but he doesn't have an unlikable personality imo. Very neutral. Personally i find Shakur and Teo way more annoying than him. And Teo's dad is even more annoying than Bill Haney lol. But yeah Bill is annoying.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

I guess they are removing Ryan from that new Undisputed boxing video game. Supposed to be a pretty big & anticipated release too.

 

[randomg1t]

He didn’t lose because he got cheated, he lost because he’s not that good.

how do you know? if steroids and missing weight (on purpose) didn't help garcia, why did he feel like he needed to do it?

i don't understand why people would ever assume that performance enhancing drugs don't enhance a fighter's performance.

 

[randomg1t]

To me the fighters who use the justification of "it was only x amount" are now suspect themselves.

this is the dumbest part.

trace amounts detected does not mean trace amounts were ingested. for fuck's sake, the half-life of EPO is 5 hours. meaning, 20 hours after injection there will only be 6% of what you used left in your body. anyone going "it was only a small amount!" is dumber than a bag of hammers.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

this is the dumbest part.

trace amounts detected does not mean trace amounts were ingested. for fuck's sake, the half-life of EPO is 5 hours. meaning, 20 hours after injection there will only be 6% of what you used left in your body. anyone going "it was only a small amount!" is dumber than a bag of hammers.

nah, he just took a tweeny-weeny bite. y'know, like a PED snack!

 

[Old Cat]

how do you know? if steroids and missing weight (on purpose) didn't help garcia, why did he feel like he needed to do it?

i don't understand why people would ever assume that performance enhancing drugs don't enhance a fighter's performance.

That was hyperbole.

My point is pretty simple to understand.
He could not block the hook. That is a fundamentals issue, regardless of how anyone spins it.

 

[Old Cat]

I think some of you are conflating issues. I get people don’t like Garcia, however that’s not relevant to this discussion.

Haney could not get out of the way of the hook, that’s why he lost. All the distain for Garcia and his behavior seems to have obscured the truth for some people.




Oh. And btw, he and his dad have done more to damage his brand than Garcia ever did. He and his dad have attempted to market themselves as the next Floyd. Floyd, for all his marketing gimmicks, never came off as a sissy. This is weak behavior from a prize fighter anyway you spin it. The guy literally could schedule a fight and beat the crap out of his opponent.

Can you imagine Miguel Coto suing Margarito? It’s friggin laughable. He beat his ass, and stood over him staring at him after he did it.

 

[Old Cat]

Brain dead...or have other motives not explored or willing to stand on in a public forum.

You can’t help but attack me if we don’t agree, continually questioning my motives and attacking me personally. It’s weird behavior dude, you follow me around like a little school kid who is mad I didn’t ask you to play ball or something.

 

[burningspear]

Haney is known as the biggest weight bully in the sport, kind of poetic how things turned out.