News Devin Haney sues Ryan Garcia

I can’t help it if some of you are not capable of understanding that fundamentals are preeminent in the ring; they trump size, physicality, super juice and malt liquor. The magnitude of his opponents distasteful behavior doesn’t change these facts.


Haney’s inability to bring his right hand home, and his repeated choice to fall for a simple setup has nothing to do with PED’s or weight classes, it has everything to do with his coaching and skill set. That sounds harsh, but it’s just the truth.
 
Lame people tend to act lame.
 
I can’t help it if some of you are not capable of understanding that fundamentals are preeminent in the ring; they trump size, physicality, super juice and malt liquor. The magnitude of his opponents distasteful behavior doesn’t change these facts.


Haney’s inability to bring his right hand home, and his repeated choice to fall for a simple setup has nothing to do with PED’s or weight classes, it has everything to do with his coaching and skill set. That sounds harsh, but it’s just the truth.
You're the one not capable of understanding the point or engaging in honest dialogue.

They matter, no way to judge how much without running it back clean & on weight.
 
I can’t help it if some of you are not capable of understanding that fundamentals are preeminent in the ring; they trump size, physicality, super juice and malt liquor. The magnitude of his opponents distasteful behavior doesn’t change these facts.


Haney’s inability to bring his right hand home, and his repeated choice to fall for a simple setup has nothing to do with PED’s or weight classes, it has everything to do with his coaching and skill set. That sounds harsh, but it’s just the truth.
You can get hit in a fight and still win. This is like saying Cotto has no excuse for losing to Margarito with loaded gloves, he should just avoid getting hit. Makes no sense. PEDs reduce the margin of error significantly for one fighter, so it isn't a level playing field.
 
I can’t help it if some of you are not capable of understanding that fundamentals are preeminent in the ring; they trump size, physicality, super juice and malt liquor. The magnitude of his opponents distasteful behavior doesn’t change these facts.


Haney’s inability to bring his right hand home, and his repeated choice to fall for a simple setup has nothing to do with PED’s or weight classes, it has everything to do with his coaching and skill set. That sounds harsh, but it’s just the truth.
No they don’t trump PEDS, this is high level boxing everyone has fundamentals and is a danger, PEDS are specifically made to negate and override results based on fundamentals. That’s why they exist. Come on, man. Being deliberately dense and I don’t know why. Stubborn is what it is at this point.
 
You can get hit in a fight and still win. This is like saying Cotto has no excuse for losing to Margarito with loaded gloves, he should just avoid getting hit. Makes no sense. PEDs reduce the margin of error significantly for one fighter, so it isn't a level playing field.
Great comparison!
 
You ever heard of the appeal to majority fallacy? Just because most people think a certain way it doesn't mean they're correct. And LOL at citing Keyshawn Davis for anything, dude called the drug "Ostrogen" lol, his opinion is worthless.
This is an appeal to authority fallacy not majority…. The timeline for ostarine is a bit suspicious
 
This is an appeal to authority fallacy not majority…. The timeline for ostarine is a bit suspicious
No. An appeal to authority fallacy is when you claim truth on the basis of certain authority figures having that opinion. In this case the poster is saying “look everybody thinks this”, that’s appeal to majority. Nobody considers Keyshawn Davis an authority on shit, certainly not on the ethics of doping in boxing.
 
No. An appeal to authority fallacy is when you claim truth on the basis of certain authority figures having that opinion. In this case the poster is saying “look everybody thinks this”, that’s appeal to majority. Nobody considers Keyshawn Davis an authority on shit, certainly not on the ethics of doping in boxing.
what you say is not the same as what is happening, he's got 500K+ views on the video, he's an authority figure whether you like it or not.
 
Case dismissed
Yet another L for Haney
shit, youre right. LMAO


now that is hilarious. not a surprising result but man oh man does it make Haney look foolish. now people are gonna clown him even worse than before.

and also wow, i didnt know Garcia was getting sued by Logan Paul. his statements about that Prime energy drink might be one of the few things I agree with Garcia on. (the Satan claims notwithstanding, that shit is super unhealthy for kids and i support him talking about that)
 
what you say is not the same as what is happening, he's got 500K+ views on the video, he's an authority figure whether you like it or not.
Keyshawn Davis is not an authority figure on the impact of ostarine on the fight outcome, he fucking called it "ostrogen" LOL. Being famous doesn't make you an authority. An example of an appeal to authority fallacy would be pointing to a PED expert and saying "Dr.X said it so it must be true".
 
what you say is not the same as what is happening, he's got 500K+ views on the video, he's an authority figure whether you like it or not.
But he’s still a fucking moron. We get it, there’s a crowd of bozos who are always gonna say “rub some dirt on it”
 
shit, youre right. LMAO


now that is hilarious. not a surprising result but man oh man does it make Haney look foolish. now people are gonna clown him even worse than before.

and also wow, i didnt know Garcia was getting sued by Logan Paul. his statements about that Prime energy drink might be one of the few things I agree with Garcia on. (the Satan claims notwithstanding, that shit is super unhealthy for kids and i support him talking about that)
I dislike Logan & I think he's a master manipulator always trying to save face as he schemes.

I'm aware that PRIME is not as beneficial as other "sports" drinks because it lacks a lot of the stuff your body needs to rehydrate in an attempt to save calories or capitalize on the negative misconceptions of sodium & sugar to the public.

But is it really worse for you than any other juice or sports drink on the market???????

I would never buy it just due to the owners & not wanting to support scamming narsasastic ass hats.

Also, just shows how much Social Media is nothing more than fkn High-school drama and pecking order.
Ryan has all this shit to say about Haney but he won't say the same shit about Logan. He's probably terrified that Logan has so many followers and could kick his ass in real life.
 
I dislike Logan & I think he's a master manipulator always trying to save face as he schemes.

I'm aware that PRIME is not as beneficial as other "sports" drinks because it lacks a lot of the stuff your body needs to rehydrate in an attempt to save calories or capitalize on the negative misconceptions of sodium & sugar to the public.

But is it really worse for you than any other juice or sports drink on the market???????

I would never buy it just due to the owners & not wanting to support scamming narsasastic ass hats.

Also, just shows how much Social Media is nothing more than fkn High-school drama and pecking order.
Ryan has all this shit to say about Haney but he won't say the same shit about Logan. He's probably terrified that Logan has so many followers and could kick his ass in real life.

im just glad someone is shitting on Logan Paul and his related activities. i think Prime is worse cause its specifically marketed to kids like Lunchables and Happy Meals. stuff like Gatorade is marketed to athletes in general, not kids particularly. Garcia did say that he thinks Logan serves Satan for making that drink, so theres that haha.

there's a whole overarching problem of companies advertising slopshit food to kids, but thats an entire other discussion.

and finally, theres a reason the only social media account i have is LinkedIn. i stopped participating in that nonsense when i deleted my Facebook account in 2012 or so. social media in general is just not a good place to be.
 
im just glad someone is shitting on Logan Paul and his related activities. i think Prime is worse cause its specifically marketed to kids like Lunchables and Happy Meals. stuff like Gatorade is marketed to athletes in general, not kids particularly. Garcia did say that he thinks Logan serves Satan for making that drink, so theres that haha.

there's a whole overarching problem of companies advertising slopshit food to kids, but thats an entire other discussion.

and finally, theres a reason the only social media account i have is LinkedIn. i stopped participating in that nonsense when i deleted my Facebook account in 2012 or so. social media in general is just not a good place to be.
To me all marketing seems to be geared towards grade school & high-schoolers in general.
I see a lot of PRIME everywhere. But I honestly don't see a lot of people drinking it or asking for it. Hope it's a fad. I know allegedly they are also being sued by the Olympic Commitee for using their trademarked themes and phrases...also by some bottling plant that set up like special equipment just for their product then like left them high and dry.
There is a Youtuber that went viral exposing Logan for his crypto nonsense and all the other controversial stuff he's been accused of. Goes by Coffeezilla. He does solid work.
I have no idea how Logan rebranded himself after the suicide forest debauchery in Japan. Its amazing how attention whoring can just keep people relevant & profitable in today's society.


I love social media for special interests car stuff & buisness. I only use it for that. I guess non serious dating too. But none of my stuff contains any of my personal info. I also don't add friends family, & followers. My ex is big on tik tok so I stay away from any platforms and things that are just for narsasastic assholes to get attention from their simps. Stuff is so toxic gross & weird to me. Not so much even the negativity too. Even the fake positive support for the dumbest shit.
 
To me all marketing seems to be geared towards grade school & high-schoolers in general.
I see a lot of PRIME everywhere. But I honestly don't see a lot of people drinking it or asking for it. Hope it's a fad. I know allegedly they are also being sued by the Olympic Commitee for using their trademarked themes and phrases...also by some bottling plant that set up like special equipment just for their product then like left them high and dry.
There is a Youtuber that went viral exposing Logan for his crypto nonsense and all the other controversial stuff he's been accused of. Goes by Coffeezilla. He does solid work.
I have no idea how Logan rebranded himself after the suicide forest debauchery in Japan. Its amazing how attention whoring can just keep people relevant & profitable in today's society.


I love social media for special interests car stuff & buisness. I only use it for that. I guess non serious dating too. But none of my stuff contains any of my personal info. I also don't add friends family, & followers. My ex is big on tik tok so I stay away from any platforms and things that are just for narsasastic assholes to get attention from their simps. Stuff is so toxic gross & weird to me. Not so much even the negativity too. Even the fake positive support for the dumbest shit.
Coffeezilla is awesome, love that dude's channel. he's dug up a lot of dirt on a lot of scumbags out there. his work during the SBF scandal was great to see.
one of the shittiest things about social media is how its fried everyone's attention spans. unless you go looking for stuff that Logan did in the past, most people wont have a clue about that incident in the Japan suicide forest. and then if they find out, some would still not care and just continue watching the guy anyway.

TikTok is among the worst of them all. even besides the shady CCP connections and obligations the company has, the very structure of that app is just destructive to attention spans and cognitive development. an endless stream of crap with no pause and nothing retained. i thought Vine was bad a few years ago and TikTok somehow took that concept and made it even worse.

all that nonsense just breeds narcissism and solipsism and entitlement. i tend to just directly message friends and family via text or Signal. oh and post on Sherdog <goldie>
 
No wonder you fall for anything. You dont live in reality.

What a weird childish deflection.
Ok lol

deflection? That’s the short bus captain calling the retard slow.

Boy, you follow me around like a school kid and then lie like a rug about it.

If someone disagrees with you, they are somehow a bad person? Yet you lie over and over again, most circles would call that Evil.
 
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You can get hit in a fight and still win. This is like saying Cotto has no excuse for losing to Margarito with loaded gloves, he should just avoid getting hit. Makes no sense. PEDs reduce the margin of error significantly for one fighter, so it isn't a level playing field.

Of course you can get hit in a fight and still win.

People are so fixated on Garcia’s distasteful behavior they’re missing the point: Haney was repeatedly hit cleanly with that left hook not because of performance enhancing drugs, rather it’s because he has a “fundamentals” issue.

Also, he is bleeding fans and is strongly criticized not because he lost to someone who pissed hot, but because he’s choosing to sue and his whined like a girl about it.
 
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