News Devin Haney sues Ryan Garcia

[StewDogg11]

Yes. However since Mark didn't resign they gave him Overeem to brain damage him with knees. Really low and evil. Dana is evil. He goes over dead bodies. Like Roy Nelson got to get beat uo by prine JDS for not resigning. Look at Power Slap. Dana and his Italian mob friends.

Huh? Nelson was 2-0 in the UFC when he fought Dos Santos and fought many times for them thereafter.

 

[Trabaho]

Huh? Nelson was 2-0 in the UFC when he fought Dos Santos and fought many times for them thereafter.

So I got that one entirely wrong

 

[Hitdepruns]

He should push for a rematch instead.

 

[randomg1t]

He should push for a rematch instead.

i don't think cheaters should be rewarded with more opportunities.

 

[Seano]

I like it & don't like it at the same time.

If people want to keep the sport clean they should welcome an additional costly penalty. Garcia has proven to be a weirdo skitzed out liar druggie. He deserves whatever he gets. No tears for that privileged pampered narsasastic fk up. The commissions, the sanctioning bodies, the law, & the sport itself has failed clean fighters still in 2024. Anytime a dirty fighter gets in there and delivers head trauma to a fighter it's a major fail. So maybe civil litigation can help mitigate the blatant cheating.

I think Haney needs to also admit the fight was such a beat down that there was more than PEDs at play. I think not pursuing a rematch with the strictest of testing but still filing suit is horrible marketing.
I definitely feel Devin is afraid of Ryan in the ring or doesn't believe in his abilities after that loss. It's a bad look legacy & career wise.

Was it really though? Haney was winning most of the fight and it makes you wonder if Garcia weren't on PEDs and deliberately overweight, could Haney have taken the shots better?

 

[Seano]

He should push for a rematch instead.

Garcia doesn't deserve that opportunity.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Was it really though? Haney was winning most of the fight and it makes you wonder if Garcia weren't on PEDs and deliberately overweight, could Haney have taken the shots better?

We will never know. A clean rematch is the only way to remotely even speculate or gauge it.

Also Ryan is such a chaos agent everybody is also forgetting he missed weight too.

So if an on weight, weight drained, non juiced up Ryan was in the ring, sure the results could of been much different.
I don't disagree with that.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Garcia doesn't deserve that opportunity.

He doesn't.
But it's the best way for Haney to prove if he's the generational talent he wants to be and set things right in the universe by exposing Clown Garcia. Unless they think it could backfire again.

I kinda of look at it like a Jesse Owens or Brown Bomber moment for the young man.

 

[Ara tech]

Too much drama, too much politics. What boxing had become...

Being undefeated is a meaningless goal, being the best is not.
Haney should move on, this is in these times that we miss figher like Hagler.

 

[randomg1t]

He doesn't.
But it's the best way for Haney to prove if he's the generational talent he wants to be and set things right in the universe by exposing Clown Garcia. Unless they think it could backfire again.

I kinda of look at it like a Jesse Owens or Brown Bomber moment for the young man.

there is no guarantee that ryan wouldn't pull that shit again. i mean, look at the current state of affairs. he missed weight deliberately, was juiced up, threw punches during the break, and his punishment is to sit out the rest of the year while half the fans think haney is the embarrassing one.

now if the penalty for getting caught on PEDs for a boxing match was prison time, or a mandatory suspension of 5 years, then sure, give the little shit another chance to fuck up his life even further. but as it is, the douchebag is all but encouraged to disregard the rules. and if the commissions don't have the teeth or the balls to keep him in order, then i'm fine with elite boxers shunning him.

 

[Blastbeat]

He doesn't.
But it's the best way for Haney to prove if he's the generational talent he wants to be and set things right in the universe by exposing Clown Garcia. Unless they think it could backfire again.

I kinda of look at it like a Jesse Owens or Brown Bomber moment for the young man.

It's a rock and a hard place situation.
Right now, even though the fight got overturned and Haney kept his belt, the whole world saw him get beat the hell up on live TV. So the public perception is that he lost to Garcia, because in every sense other than his record, he did.
Rematching Garcia would remedy that but it would also be rewarding a cheater with another opportunity. I can't stand Haney but this is a very tough choice he has to make. Either option will come with heavy criticism.
If they don't rematch, Haney has to deal with getting clowned because he is essentially suing someone for hitting him in a boxing match.
If they rematch, Haney has to knock Garcia the fuck out or style on him for 120-107 unanimous scorecards. I have no faith he can KO Garcia, though.

It's really a choosing between a douche and a turd sandwich scenario.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

there is no guarantee that ryan wouldn't pull that shit again. i mean, look at the current state of affairs. he missed weight deliberately, was juiced up, threw punches during the break, and his punishment is to sit out the rest of the year while half the fans think haney is the embarrassing one.

now if the penalty for getting caught on PEDs for a boxing match was prison time, or a mandatory suspension of 5 years, then sure, give the little shit another chance to fuck up his life even further. but as it is, the douchebag is all but encouraged to disregard the rules. and if the commissions don't have the teeth or the balls to keep him in order, then i'm fine with elite boxers shunning him.

There are never guarantees for weight or drugs. If he misses weight fine him & don't fight him. Make the drug testing stricter with more fines.

Not fighting him plays right into the narrative of all the Haney haters.

It's potentially better for his career if he honestly thinks hes the better fighter. He's not a draw. He's not popular. The rematch would be pretty big. He needs an antagonist like this.

Now if he's scared for his health sure don't fight him. But a majority of fight fans are going to think that's weak. I don't 100% agree with that but it's certainly understandable.

If his goal is to truly be a legend and generational talent I don't think this is the way.
Especially while still not fighting Tank, Stevenson, or Lopez.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

It's a rock and a hard place situation.
Right now, even though the fight got overturned and Haney kept his belt, the whole world saw him get beat the hell up on live TV. So the public perception is that he lost to Garcia, because in every sense other than his record, he did.
Rematching Garcia would remedy that but it would also be rewarding a cheater with another opportunity. I can't stand Haney but this is a very tough choice he has to make. Either option will come with heavy criticism.
If they don't rematch, Haney has to deal with getting clowned because he is essentially suing someone for hitting him in a boxing match.
If they rematch, Haney has to knock Garcia the fuck out or style on him for 120-107 unanimous scorecards. I have no faith he can KO Garcia, though.

It's really a choosing between a douche and a turd sandwich scenario.

Ryan already is wealthy and rich not just from boxing but from his social media fame.
So in a sense you could say he is being rewarded with a big fight & a big check. But to somebody like Ryan that is status quo.

Will it really turn out as a "net reward" if that mentally unstable headcase gets beatdown in front of millions by his nemesis who is also suing him.
Look how this loser spirals out of control after a win...Imagine his spiral if Devin was able to son him in front of the mainstream audience.
I wouldn't count that as a reward. Seems worth the risk especially if like you said public perception is still Garcia > Haney.
The worst that could happen is that perception stays the same.

 

[pugilistico]

Garcia probably wouldn't take such a deal but Haney should fight him if most of the purse goes to Haney, with strict stipulations on the weight. If Garcia comes in overweight, he has to give half of his purse to Haney or something.

 

[Blastbeat]

Ryan already is wealthy and rich not just from boxing but from his social media fame.
So in a sense you could say he is being rewarded with a big fight & a big check. But to somebody like Ryan that is status quo.

Will it really turn out as a "net reward" if that mentally unstable headcase gets beatdown in front of millions by his nemesis who is also suing him.
Look how this loser spirals out of control after a win...Imagine his spiral if Devin was able to son him in front of the mainstream audience.
I wouldn't count that as a reward. Seems worth the risk especially if like you said public perception is still Garcia > Haney.
The worst that could happen is that perception stays the same.

the thing is, Haney is basically devoid of personality. at least from what ive seen/heard, he cant seem to decide whether he wants to be the venom-spewing badass or the laid back, cerebral fighter. all while not really being good at either. i think he should just drop the facade. or if thats who he really is, thats unfortunate.
Crawford for instance is also kind of a dull personality but that seems to be who he is - he's genuinely just a quiet dude that doesnt really clamor for the spotlight.

Garcia, like him or not, is boisterous and has some charm to him. that, unfortunately, is what sells now for a lot of people. i think even if Garcia lost he'd spin it like "Haney is such a bitch that he couldnt take the L and had to fight me again" or something like that. it'd be worse if Haney didnt stop him cause then he might go "his bitch pillowfists couldnt even hurt me and he ran the whole fight." then of course Garcia would want another rematch to settle a trilogy.
and Haney could always lose! Garcia - PEDs or not - hits pretty damned hard. imagine how bad the clowning would be if Haney lost and Garcia passed all his tests. especially if it was by KO.

the perception staying the same could be the worst thing that happens. but thats also still really bad for Haney haha. he doesnt have the style to retain many casual fans, or fans in general. (i like to call him Huggy Bear Haney)
that by far is his biggest strike against him and absolutely influences public opinion about him, whether or not thats warranted.

like i said in my last post, Haney would have to knock Garcia out to get everyone to shut up. preferably within the first 3-4 rounds. Haney hasn't KO'd someone since before the pandemic.

 

[Misery Signals]

Haney doesn't need to fight Garcia again, he just needs to get back to fighting in general. Get in the rIng with someone interesting and win. Going into a legal battle isn't going to help his image.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

the thing is, Haney is basically devoid of personality. at least from what ive seen/heard, he cant seem to decide whether he wants to be the venom-spewing badass or the laid back, cerebral fighter. all while not really being good at either. i think he should just drop the facade. or if thats who he really is, thats unfortunate.
Crawford for instance is also kind of a dull personality but that seems to be who he is - he's genuinely just a quiet dude that doesnt really clamor for the spotlight.

Garcia, like him or not, is boisterous and has some charm to him. that, unfortunately, is what sells now for a lot of people. i think even if Garcia lost he'd spin it like "Haney is such a bitch that he couldnt take the L and had to fight me again" or something like that. it'd be worse if Haney didnt stop him cause then he might go "his bitch pillowfists couldnt even hurt me and he ran the whole fight." then of course Garcia would want another rematch to settle a trilogy.
and Haney could always lose! Garcia - PEDs or not - hits pretty damned hard. imagine how bad the clowning would be if Haney lost and Garcia passed all his tests. especially if it was by KO.

the perception staying the same could be the worst thing that happens. but thats also still really bad for Haney haha. he doesnt have the style to retain many casual fans, or fans in general. (i like to call him Huggy Bear Haney)
that by far is his biggest strike against him and absolutely influences public opinion about him, whether or not thats warranted.

like i said in my last post, Haney would have to knock Garcia out to get everyone to shut up. preferably within the first 3-4 rounds. Haney hasn't KO'd someone since before the pandemic.

Hmmmm. I honestly disagree with a lot of that.
-He wouldn't have to KO Ryan to get vindication. He could beat and outclass him bad enough to still humiliate him & prove 1st fight was a fluke due to serious cheating
-Ryan would not be in the drivers seat to call for a trilogy. IMO that's the better time to freeze him out
- Staying the same does not = worse by any stretch
-Other than weird people lusting after this shit bag I see no charm in him. He is an adult that can barely put together a coherent sentence. He says nothing but brain-rot hypebeast cringe lord lingo , & he sounds like a grade school kid repeating and butchering conspiracy theories they overheard from their methed out single parent. He's just popular for his appearance and active presence on social media. If there ever was a male version of a bimbo or airhead it would be him. Sprinkled with a healthy dose of a hypocritical culture vulture turned racist.

 

[Blastbeat]

brain-rot hypebeast cringe lord lingo

my good man, this is how lots of people communicate in earnest on social media. its absolutely fucking unbearable but it is the truth. Garcia's on a cocktail of who knows what at pretty much all times so his erratic behavior, reprehensible statements and general fuckery are just another day in his life. i dont think he's gonna be in good shape five years from now if he keeps doing what he is doing.

and there are male versions of bimbos, theyre called HIMbos! i agree, Garcia is definitely one of those.

and i dont think you read me right - i said staying the same could be the worst thing that could happen to Haney's public perception. i didnt say it would be worse than other alternatives. after all the best thing sometimes is to do nothing.

part of me thinks Haney shouldnt have even filed this lawsuit, he shouldve just left Garcia in the dust and moved on with his career. Haney already got money for Garcia missing weight, he retained his belt and the fight is a NC. the lawsuit itself brings more attention to Garcia. also didnt the WBC expel Garcia because of his vitriol towards LGBT people and Muslims? if they fought again it would have to be sanctioned by another belt organization.

 

[randomg1t]

Especially while still not fighting Tank, Stevenson, or Lopez.

well that's a separate problem, and it plagues all these guys. lomachenko seems to be the only one willing to fight all of them, the rest of the fuckers pretend the others don't exist.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

Hmmmm. I honestly disagree with a lot of that.
-He wouldn't have to KO Ryan to get vindication. He could beat and outclass him bad enough to still humiliate him & prove 1st fight was a fluke due to serious cheating
-Ryan would not be in the drivers seat to call for a trilogy. IMO that's the better time to freeze him out
- Staying the same does not = worse by any stretch
-Other than weird people lusting after this shit bag I see no charm in him. He is an adult that can barely put together a coherent sentence. He says nothing but brain-rot hypebeast cringe lord lingo , & he sounds like a grade school kid repeating and butchering conspiracy theories they overheard from their methed out single parent. He's just popular for his appearance and active presence on social media. If there ever was a male version of a bimbo or airhead it would be him. Sprinkled with a healthy dose of a hypocritical culture vulture turned racist.

I’m with you. Firstly, on principle. Haney shouldn’t even waste his time, just get a new dance partner and start fresh. For godsakes you snatched a W over 12 against fucking Lomachenko, literally blanked and battered Prograis embarrassing him in your 140 debut, have some fucking self respect and pick yourself back up. Ryan doesn’t deserve the rematch either, just a trashy punk who doesn’t deserve his fame and idiots normalize his racist rants continuing to support this maniac.

But
Personally I do hope Haney beats his ass though. Dude won most the last fight, just the Kds. It’s not a sure thing Ryan dominates, quite the opposite.