International Deposing Maduro was a Massive Win

[KAZSoliloquy]

Care to mention an example in Latin America since the end of the cold war?

care to try and name an example within these arbitrary exclusionary bounds i've drawn up, sir? speaking of the yao ming emote, i bet you can't name another nba all-star from china whose name starts with Y!

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

They'll likely just Epstein him

Honestly I'm highly amused seeing certain posters who Proven they have no idea what is going on, write pages of gibberish on accident, I mean most of maga.
Then I see conservatives, liberals, centrists, actually knowing what's going on. It's quite telling. There are some very conservative but not maga people who actually have kind of a grasp on it and they hate orange women's make up child diddler. Maybe they pretended to be ignorant so long they turned into it. They really had no idea the monsters behind maduro waiting. A couple weeks ago a couple of maga had no idea the oil fields existed then learning about it said it was important.
It's been like this with me since Epstein. I'll say something they won't know, it gets proved true then they try talk to me more about the thing moving goal posts back and passive aggressive questions.

 

[Rod1]

care to try and name an example within these arbitrary exclusionary bounds i've drawn up, sir? speaking of the yao ming emote, i bet you can't name another nba all-star from china whose name starts with Y!

Time is definitively not an arbitrary exclusion


Would you consider Japan a dangerous militaristic country full of religious zealots?

Would you consider Germany a militaristic aggressive country?

Norway and Sweden and their long history of piracy through the rivers of Europe and the Atlantic coast too?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Time is definitively not an arbitrary exclusion


Would you consider Japan a dangerous militaristic country full of religious zealots?

Would you consider Germany a militaristic aggressive country?

Norway and Sweden and their long history of piracy through the rivers of Europe and the Atlantic coast too?

do you consider the material conditions and north-south american relations, from the POV of south america, to be dramatically different between now and when we were assassinating allende or overthrowing goulart in brazil? there's absolutely no difference in capitalist goals for south american resources, between now and 75 years ago, the corporations are just called something different.

 

[Hog-train]

Didn't expect you to be a total NeoCon but here we are...

Would you be mad if the US kidnapped and charged Netanyahu for war crimes?

This thread and its lack of nuance makes me sad. Again, Maduro being bad and a dictator doesn't mean you break international law and set a nasty precedent for other nations to follow. A democracy has national and international institutions where such operations are decided, so we don't plunge in another world war in the future.

I'm slowly realising that there is a sizable number of posters on this forum that are just American imperialists who only pretend to care about international law when it's beneficial to the US.

And for some I'm really shocked from the mask-off moment. That's what's sad.

You do know Venezuela was trying to annex 2/3rd's of their neighbor Guyana's oil reserves and they asked us for help right?

Guyana asks U.S. to help boost its military as territorial dispute with Venezuela deepens

The announcement follows two days of talks among top Guyanese officials and Daniel P. Erikson, deputy assistant secretary of defense for the Western Hemisphere who traveled to the South American country to discuss defense and security partnerships.

www.pbs.org

If we did what you're proposing - which is nothing - that would result in:

1. Venezuela taking Guyana's territory by force
2. Allowing China to build spy (and possibly secret military) bases in Venezuela
3. Allowing China to control the largest oil reserves in the entire world right in our backyard

Allowing all of that to happen would be akin to malpractice.

 

[Absolut]

Narratives that Venezuela’s was universally joyful over this taking a hit today.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Would you be mad if the US kidnapped and charged Netanyahu for war crimes?

False equivalency. The US is complicit in Netaynayhu's War Crimes, and you are literally supporting something that Netanyahu supports. You're on his side with this one.

 

[Ruprecht]

Narratives that Venezuela’s was universally joyful over this taking a hit today.

 

[HereticBD]

False equivalency. The US is complicit in Netaynayhu's War Crimes, and you are literally supporting something that Netanyahu supports. You're on his side with this one.

That's not an answer. Don't lie. You'd be ecstatic if this happened to Netanyahu, for very obvious reasons.

 

[Hdfi]

Fuck the US oil thives!

 

[Simple Southerner]

Ousted Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, made their initial appearance in Manhattan federal court on Monday following their capture by U.S. forces in a military operation in the Venezuelan capital of Caracas, with Maduro claiming, "I am innocent."

 

[Possum Jenkins]

International law is followed by the good guys.

If by the good guys you mean the West, then nope.

This is why the list of people tried by the International Criminal Court is laughingly devoid of Westerners. Mostly African warlords and a few Eastern Europeans

List of people indicted in the International Criminal Court - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Most of the West is at least party to it even if they don't have the balls to prosecute anyone.

Surprise, surprise, the only Western country NOT part of it... the USA.

 

[Hdfi]

Surprise, surprise, the only Western country NOT part of it... the USA.

Because it's the biggest criminal of all countries.

 

[UberHere]

If by the good guys you mean the West, then nope.

This is why the list of people tried by the International Criminal Court is laughingly devoid of Westerners. Mostly African warlords and a few Eastern Europeans

List of people indicted in the International Criminal Court - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Most of the West is at least party to it even if they don't have the balls to prosecute anyone.

Surprise, surprise, the only Western country NOT part of it... the USA.

That’s right. We are the law.

 

[Hog-train]

False equivalency. The US is complicit in Netaynayhu's War Crimes, and you are literally supporting something that Netanyahu supports. You're on his side with this one.

Maduro was trying to take Guyana by force and was going to allow China fully into the country with even more weapons purchases. They already have spy bases inside the country. That's a huge national security threat.

This isn't like Iraq in faraway Middle East where they're not a threat and we went in with false pretenses of WMD. This is an ACTUAL and serious security threat.

 

[HeffDoesWant]

Any lawful system requires enforcement, otherwise its not a lawful system.

So do you generally support the idea of going vigilante whenever you can't get what you want?

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Reports out of Caracas indicate the Delta Force soldiers being celebrated as heroes

 

[Snubnoze707]

That's not an answer. Don't lie. You'd be ecstatic if this happened to Netanyahu, for very obvious reasons.

I must have missed Maduro committing a genocide. It is a false equivalency. But yeah, I would love to see Netanyahu pay for his crimes. Not sure what "obvious" reason you are referring to, however. It's also not going to happen.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Maduro was trying to take Guyana by force and was going to allow China fully into the country with even more weapons purchases. They already have spy bases inside the country. That's a huge national security threat.

This isn't like Iraq in faraway Middle East where they're not a threat and we went in with false pretenses of WMD. This is an ACTUAL and serious security threat.

How many countries has Maduro bombed? How many countries have the US and Israel bombed? You're not really in a position to be dictating who the bad guys are.

The United States just took Venezuela by force. Not "tried"... did.

You fell for the propaganda.

 

[HereticBD]

I must have missed Maduro committing a genocide.

It's about as real as Israel's. He certainly killed and starved a lot of people though.

Not sure what "obvious" reason you are referring to

Sure, sure...

If you nose, you nose...