International Deposing Maduro was a Massive Win

She was the vice president
I know. I talked about her days ago. Her and her brother are essentially a team. I talked about both of them. The brother is a scary man whose things are well hidden. Hence the Pinochet jokes.
Everyone who knows about this knew days ago knew it could get genocidal. Maga kept naming the wrong people then giving out their predictions. When I called them on it, it turned into trolling and passive aggressive questions to hide their ignorance.
The current power structure is complex. It could split the country in two or a civil war. Least bloody scenario she holds on, makes a deal and her brother liquidates opposition quietly.
 
California is by far the richest economy in the US.

Perhaps I missed it-

But what programs and laws have republican lawmakers put forward to aid homeless and poor people?


None needed, Newsome has profitted by making Cali a criminal Sanctuary - billions in the red for illegals, no money for left US citizens.
 
Lol I don't know why you guys think you can just make up your own definitions of words as if other people don't understand these words.

Its literally in the name ANALOGY which literally means proportionate in Greek, if an analogy isn't analogous then its not an analogy dumbass.


The United States uses international laws and norms all of the damn time to enforce, control, and cajole nations into doing what they want. That's treaties, that's international organizations, that's diplomatic, political, and economic pressure directly and indirectly applied through allies.
The whole point here is the hypocrisy that the laws and norms only matter when you feel like they matter.
So you think in the name of "law and order" the US should not stop a genocide like the one in Kosovo?
 
I was initially shocked that the US actually deposed Maduro by force. And did it so easily in only 2 hours. I was picturing some years long guerilla war and pressuring the people under him to assassinate him.

Instead they did a perfectly executed surgical extraction with zero American soldiers killed or any aircraft downed. As a military operation, it was literally perfect and something Russia could only dream of achieving. Russia was trying to pull this off at the beginning of the Ukraine War, but failed miserably.

I did have mixed feelings about militarily interfering with a sovereign country, but I'm coming around to the fact that this will be a massive win for the United States.

It accomplishes several huge objectives.

Reinforces the Monroe Doctrine

1. For those that don't know what the Monroe Doctrine is - it is a US foreign policy position that opposes colonialism or any influence in the Western Hemisphere by other countries from Europe or elsewhere. It was originally against European colonialism - "GTFO out of here and we won't fuck with your Euro colonies."

2. Russia and Venezuela signed a Strategic Partnership and Cooperation Treaty in May 2025, formalizing deeper ties in energy, mining, transport, defense, and counterterrorism, driven by shared opposition to the U.S. China has invested over 100 billion into Venezuela since 2007 and also has treaties with Venezuela.

3. Both China and Russia has sold a significant amount of weapons to Venezuela over the last two decades.

Say bye bye to all of that. All their influence in Latin America just went down SUBSTANTIALLY.

4. The US just proved they're not playing around in protecting the Western Hemisphere.

Did Irreparable Harm to Chinese Influence

1. A Chinese delegation was literally meeting Maduro just hours before. Well what are they going to do about this? Absolutely jack shit - except publicly denounce it.

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2. China has been allying with dictators and leaders all over South America to get influence. Including building in Panama and buying ports there so they can have influence over the Panama Canal.

3. Well we just showed being China's partner doesn't mean protection. Instead it means EXPOSURE and a spotlight on you as an enemy of the #1 superpower.

Yea China might smile to you in front of cameras and promise you the world and give you money, but when you need it the most, they don't shield or protect you. They don't help militarily at all. They'll just step aside and ditch you when pressure escalates and issue a statement of strong protest the next day.


It just scared the shit out of any dictators or leaders that's thinking about allying with America's enemies

1. Maduro literally thought he could invite the US's number one adversary into their backyard and they would just allow him to erode their national security. He figured China would protect him when they inevitably retaliate. Well we're already seeing China and Russia will do jack shit to protect their "allies" in Latin America.

2. In one night, every single Latin American leader just realized it is time to decouple with China and align with the superpower in their hemisphere.

3. No dictator is actually concerned with the United States massive military because they know they realistically won't level their entire country and kill thousands to millions of people.

But they now know the US can (and will) surgically go into their country, kidnap the dictator (AND wife) in 2 hours and they have zero chance to even try to stop it - that is a much more scarier and realistic threat to any nation's leader than an unlikely dragged out war.

4. There is zero chance in hell China or Russia would have been able to pull something like this off. Maduro never sleeps in the same place every single night and he was housed in a heavily protected installation carved into the mountains when he was taken.

Yet the US took him and wife with ZERO casualties or aircrafts downed in 2 hours - air superiority, jamming and destroying all their radars, stealth, cyberwarfare, etc.

Literally no other country on Earth could have pulled this off other than the US.

It secures the largest oil reserves in the entire world and US national security for decades.

1. Quick history lesson - in the 90's, Venezuela opened up their oil industry to foreign investment because their companies did not have the technical expertise or funds to fully utilize their oil reserves. The US companies invested tens of billions in oil infrastructure. US oil companies have also been here since oil was discovered in the 1920's. This was all seized and nationalized when Hugo Chavez came into power.

Now presumably the US companies will be invited back.

2. Neighboring Guyana just discovered massive new oil reserves, which Maduro was trying to annex by force. Now the US companies will be developing them.

3. Coupled with the US's own substantial oil reserves, this will result in the US getting the CHEAPEST PRICES FOR GAS in the ENTIRE WORLD in DECADES. Most experts predicts this will happen once supply chains get established.

4. This will spur on substantial financial growth and most Americans are not going to give a shit about anything when they're paying $1.50-$2 a gallon.

5. Meanwhile, China is increasingly super insecure about oil and constantly looking for other sources. They are super dependent on other places for oil AND food while the US is self reliant for both.

6. All of the major industrial giants in the world - The EU, India, China, Japan, South Korea, etc. They're ALL heavily reliant on foreign oil. The US is completely self sufficient and now will have Venezuela as a favorable government right in their backyard.

Suffice to say, China will NEVER be able to supplant the US as the world's superpower due to their energy problem.

7. Lessons the influence of Saudi Arabia.

The actual Venezuelans in the country will eventually be among the richest in Latin America as it previously was before

1. Venezuelans were once among the richest people in Latin America, particularly after the 1920s oil boom turned Venezuela into the wealthiest nation in the region.

2. Before Huge Chavez came into power, they used to be one of the US's biggest allies with us selling them US weapons like F-16's. They were allies for decades.

3. Once the oil infrastructure is fixed, the oil revenue will greatly help the flagging Venezuelan economy and their citizens. Venezuela still has the largest oil reserves in the entire world by a very wide margin.

4. Lastly, Maduro was indeed a brutal dictator that completely ignored the results of their last election.
Now we get another puppet state to run and waste millions of dollars in, just like Iraq and Afghanistan.
All from the president who campaigned on no more foreign wars.
It's a load of crap and people fell for it again. Trump's looking more like GW Bush by the day.
 
Initially, I thought that it was both rather unnerving and very impressive.

Now? I just hope that this doesn't set us all off on a chain of events that will lead to global war.

Russia and Ukraine, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, Thailand and Cambodia, China and Taiwan.

Seems like there are a lot of pieces just ready to wreck havoc, and change the world for the worse.
 
This dude is having quite the meltdown.

Maduro is "democratically elected"....are you TRYING to get ratio'd, Kyle? lmao


Just proving how stupid/dishonest these "intellectual" liberal influencers really are. I mean, he can't not know that Maduro was not even recognized as the rightful ruler by many nations, including the US, because he stole a democratic election that he lost big time.
 
Initially, I thought that it was both rather unnerving and very impressive.

Now? I just hope that this doesn't set us all off on a chain of events that will lead to global war.

Russia and Ukraine, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, Thailand and Cambodia, China and Taiwan.

Seems like there are a lot of pieces just ready to wreck havoc, and change the world for the worse.
Honestly I don't think it will. Trump has proven too unpredictable for China to invade Taiwan before 2029 when he's gone. They almost certainly will prefer to hope isolationist JD Vance wins the 2028 election. Russia has maybe 12-18 months left before their economy and military recruitment completely melt down and make continuing their war impossible. And Trump is going be mired in a Venezuela mess for the next 12 months.

The only real danger I see is runaway nuclear proliferation, which will start with Iran getting nuclear weapons -- forcing Saudi Arabia to get their own nuclear weapons in response (Iran has threatened Saudi before, and demanded control of the Holy Cities of Mecca and Medina).
 
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Richest state with the highest wealth gap in the country. People literally shitting in the streets so much there's an app for it.
Umm

Its an exact mirror reflection of the US income disparity



Unlike the states between California and NY where everyone is poor and on federal welfare
 
California is by far the richest economy in the US.

Perhaps I missed it-

But what programs and laws have republican lawmakers put forward to aid homeless and poor people?

Has homeless gotten better or worse since Gavin dumped a few dozen billion tax dollars into it? By over-all numbers and percentage... it's still ranked worse in the nation and has gotten worse.

Or is it just better for the people running the NGO's who end up do nothing with it?



Audit finds California spent $24B on homelessness in 5 years, didn't consistently track outcomes​


You realize that based on cost of living, California is both the richest and poorest state in the US? Even the middle class is barely above poverty levels? All that wealth is concentrated on a few at the top.



And California keeps implementing policies putting more pressure on the middle and lower classes? And shifting the burden more and more to the highest tax bracket... who's going to break first? And what happens when those responsible for making California rich end up leaving? There's no oversight on spending... just implementing more taxes. How many companies have left in the last few years and relocated to other states? How many more will leave if California implements it's proposed Wealth Tax? lol...

And who's hurt the most by ridiculous gas prices? Not the upper class... and Gavin signed a bill in late 2024 that might see gas hit almost $10/gallon after 3 Oil & Gas companies decided to leave in 2025. The gap between the lower and upper class will only expand with the middle class extinct after they've fled the state.

Newsom’s California: Slouching Towards A Self-Inflicted Energy Crisis​

California appears to be headed towards an energy crisis of its own making. The state’s gasoline prices at the pump are high and could go higher if a key piece of infrastructure goes out of business due to the state’s harsh regulatory environment in the coming months.

As millions of Americans currently enjoy gasoline prices under $3.00 per gallon, California’s gas price remains $1.55 above the national average according to AAA. Almost all of the difference is attributable to the state’s onerous gas tax regime, as detailed by the U.S. Energy Information Administration. Hawaii has the 2nd highest gas prices, but that state has no choice but to import all of its oil needs. California doesn’t have that excuse – its high costs are entirely self-inflicted due to choices made by the state’s government.

California’s situation with gas prices and supplies threatens to grow significantly worse with the impending closure of its sole remaining major south-to-north oil pipeline. On October 25, USC Professor Michael A. Mische, UC Berkeley Professors James W. Rector, and Joseph B. Silvi issued a policy brief in which they lay out the various factors that have led to the state’s energy dilemma.

From the report: “California’s in-state oil production has declined by approximately 65% since 2001, while its dependency on foreign imports has risen by nearly 70%. At the same time, refinery capacity has fallen 21% since 2023 and gasoline demand remains largely unchanged at roughly 36–40 million gallons per day.

The likely outcomes of a shutdown are entirely predictable: Shortages and higher prices for Northern California consumers, and higher in-state emissions as the absence of pipeline capacity forces oil to be transported south to north on trucks and trains, most of which remain powered by diesel fuel despite Newsom’s failing efforts to force them all to be converted to electric.

Waldron tells Politico that the shuttering of in-state refineries in response to Newsom’s 2020 edict phasing out the sale of internal combustion cars in the state is at the center of his pipeline’s non-profitability. In 1982, California was home to 43 oil refineries; but, due to an array of increasingly onerous crackdowns on the sector from Newsom and his predecessors in office, that number is now down to just 7, with more retirements anticipated in the next few years. As quoted in the California Globe, Chevron Upstream President Andy Walz noted, “I think it’s been a tyranny of about 25 years to get the refining business to leave California.”

From the report: “California refineries were designed to process the state’s predominantly heavy crude oil and are configured to produce the state-specific CARBOB gasoline and ultra-low-sulfur diesel fuel. CARBOB and ultra-low sulfur diesel fuels (CARB ULSD) are the result of California’s regulatory-mandated air quality mandates, which are the strictest in the world. Because of their unique formulations most out- of-state refineries cannot produce CARBOB or CARB ULSD without costly retrofits...Because of California’s mandated special gasoline formula, there are only a handful of refineries outside of California in the world that can or will produce it.”



Residents of the Palisades are starting to give up and sell out to investors as LA County has only handed out around 1,400 permits for the 11,000 houses destroyed in the fire.


California as a state is amazing. It's gorgeous... and people want to live there.

But, the State could be in so much better shape... it's government is run by morons. But I guess that's ok, because the people who live there were the ones who voted them in.
 
Initially, I thought that it was both rather unnerving and very impressive.

Now? I just hope that this doesn't set us all off on a chain of events that will lead to global war.

Russia and Ukraine, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, Thailand and Cambodia, China and Taiwan.

Seems like there are a lot of pieces just ready to wreck havoc, and change the world for the worse.

Russia has already tried to conquer Ukraine the fuck are you on about?

Also SA got their shit pushed in when they went to Yemen.
 
Just proving how stupid/dishonest these "intellectual" liberal influencers really are. I mean, he can't not know that Maduro was not even recognized as the rightful ruler by many nations, including the US, because he stole a democratic election that he lost big time.

Real mask-off moment for a lot of people.

They used to say they would like to remove Maduro but not cause many collateral victims, and now that he was removed with only 4 confirmed civilian casualties they still bitch
 
Umm

Its an exact mirror reflection of the US income disparity



Unlike the states between California and NY where everyone is poor and on federal welfare

Not true... lol

Cost of living is definitely a thing. And California has destroyed it's middle class.

California has the highest poverty rate in the nation by cost of living....

It's right there with Mississippi... stiff competition for sure.

Who gives a fuck if you're making more, if you're paying $3,000-$5,000 a month in rent for shitholes... and zero hopes of ever buying a home.

Once again, California beats every other state when it comes to poverty​


Responding to criticism, some years ago the Census Bureau developed a “supplemental measure” that takes into account a broader array of factors, most importantly the cost of living. And it’s California’s supplemental poverty score — 15.4% over the three years — that sets the state apart.

California’s notoriously sky-high costs for housing, energy and other living needs clobber the incomes of working-class families, driving them into poverty. The national supplemental rate is 11% and the lowest is South Dakota’s 6.2%.

By an even broader measure, California’s 15.4% supplemental poverty rate understates its immense economic divide.

The Public Policy Institute of California, using a methodology similar to that of the Census Bureau, calculated that in 2023, 31.1% of Californians were either at or near poverty. Deep poverty, defined as “families with less than half of the resources to meet basic needs,” was at 3.4%.

At the other end of the scale, the average income of those in the top 1% is $1.2 million.

The calculation that nearly a third of Californians are in serious economic distress comports with the fact that more than a third, 14.5 million, are enrolled in Medi-Cal, the state’s health care system.
 
What happened to "no more endless wars"?

Yall turned that bullshit off faster than interest in thr Epstein pdf ring orange mcrapeyson is associated with.

Speaking of which. What happened to the Epstein files ?

Do you believe Venezuela was an endless war?

Fuck... even the first Gulf War with Iraq lasted longer. And that was over in 100 hours.

lol
 
So the good guys would have allowed Milosevic to murder the fuck out of Albanians in Kosovo? gotcha.

The Good guys for sure allow it with israel.

Also the Good guys I'll killed more than 1M people in Iran and Afghanistan, run Bagram and Abu Grain prisons, and have a law that says they will invade the Hague if anyone from their side is prosecuted.

Maduro was bad. Doesn't mean the USA is good, nor did they do what they did except for their own economical and political benefit, as usual.
 
Real mask-off moment for a lot of people.

They used to say they would like to remove Maduro but not cause many collateral victims, and now that he was removed with only 4 confirmed civilian casualties they still bitch

I'm praying the transition goes smooth and is over in a matter of a few weeks or less.

I'm optimistic because it seems a majority of Venezuelans are ecstatic and celebrating. I guess the main threat will be cartels... and that's like stomping out cockroaches.

The dude that "won" the last election should be put in place after the fallout settles out. And given US levels of Secret Service protection...
 
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