International Deposing Maduro was a Massive Win

[HereticBD]

lol Now law just doesn't matter.

International Law doesn't. Hence why nobody follows it.

What's retarded is all you people trying to act like the law and norms simply don't matter because we don't have a literal world police force.

Well, yeah. You kind of need serious enforcement for laws to be taken seriously. If "Theft" was a "law" with no enforcement, guess what most people would be doing?

 

[Source]

Magat trash love illegal wars again. Turns out they were neocons all along.

 

[Hit-N-Run]

TDS has people defending Maduro lol

Repost 1 thing where anyone has defended Maduro. Just one….

Morons like you correlate criticism of Trump to defending Maduro. Your pee brain cannot comprehend any other way to view a situation.

Low intellect and suffering from Trump Devotion Syndrome.

 

[K-Bag]

Repost 1 thing where anyone has defended Maduro. Just one….

Morons like you correlate criticism of Trump to defending Maduro. Your pee brain cannot comprehend any other way to view a situation.

Low intellect and suffering from Trump Devotion Syndrome.

You mad

 

[scoopj]

They killed dozens of civilians.

Still stand by this?

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Some suggest Maduro surrendered but this whole invasion thing was to make it look like he was captured for better optics.

- I think Maduro taped to strikers also. Dont know how true is, but theres talks weeks ago of Maduro surrending Power by a couple of millions and getting out of his contrie. If left there, Maduro would end killed anyway.

 

[Hit-N-Run]

You mad

I know… big words are hard to understand.

Back to your hole peasant!

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

@Hog-train

HONEST QUESTION: Do you have any worries about the aftermath of these actions???

I tend to agree with a lot of what you said here. Maduro was illegitimate dictator who killed thousands of his own people and was allying with adversarial forces.

On moral level, I have zero issues with taking him out. In fact I am more impressed they did so with out killing him.

What does give me pause is possibility of this becoming another Iraq with US having boots in the ground and being directly involved in operations in the country for the next 20 years. Does that concern you at all???

Also I am bothered about the morality of the US more or less raising the country of its oil. Thoughts?

 

[nicapica]

I one how the commies glaze over the 8 million adults who had to leave Venezuela in the last 7 years!!!!! Now let’s look at other countries in the region and see how they feel about millions of working adults showing up at your border.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Still stand by this?

Is there new information to the contrary?

 

[DoctorTaco]

Source please? I'm aware of an 80 year old civilian killed, but dozens? Pretty sure you're conflating civilians with military but prove me wrong.

I reread the article I saw and I could very well be wrong from misunderstanding how it as written.

At least 40 people were killed in the U.S. attack on Venezuela early Saturday, including military personnel and civilians, according to a senior Venezuelan official who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe preliminary reports.

President Trump, speaking on Fox News on Saturday, said that no American troops had been killed. He suggested, however, that some service members had been injured. Gen. Dan Caine, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said later in the day at a news conference at Mar-a-Lago with Mr. Trump that U.S. helicopters moving to extract President Nicolás Maduro and his wife had come under fire. He said that one helicopter had been hit but “remained flyable,” and that all U.S. aircraft “came home.”

About half a dozen soldiers were injured in the overall operation to capture Mr. Maduro, according to two U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
i took 40 deaths total and subtracted the half dozen soldiers. I could very well be wrong on my assessment

 

[scoopj]

I reread the article I saw and I could very well be wrong from misunderstanding how it as written.

At least 40 people were killed in the U.S. attack on Venezuela early Saturday, including military personnel and civilians, according to a senior Venezuelan official who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe preliminary reports.

President Trump, speaking on Fox News on Saturday, said that no American troops had been killed. He suggested, however, that some service members had been injured. Gen. Dan Caine, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said later in the day at a news conference at Mar-a-Lago with Mr. Trump that U.S. helicopters moving to extract President Nicolás Maduro and his wife had come under fire. He said that one helicopter had been hit but “remained flyable,” and that all U.S. aircraft “came home.”

About half a dozen soldiers were injured in the overall operation to capture Mr. Maduro, according to two U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
i took 40 deaths total and subtracted the half dozen soldiers. I could very well be wrong on my assessment

Appreciate the reply. Yeah, sounds like low single digits as far as civilian deaths are concerned.

 

[Sinister]

The United States Oil & Mineral Corporarion, featuring Military Force to topple the most politically convenient "brutal dictators" while allying with other brutal dictators whenever it suits capital interests.

 

[scoopj]

The United States Oil & Mineral Corporarion, featuring Military Force to topple the most politically convenient "brutal dictators" while allying with other brutal dictators whenever it suits capital interests.

Pretty sure I saw this exact same statement on Reddit.

 

[syct23]

Pretty sure I saw this exact same statement on Reddit.

Pretty sure I saw this exact statement on Sherdog…first

 

[SandisLL]

Maduro told that Guyana needs referendums and largest part of this area is Venezuela. Therefore 100 000 - 300 000 conscripts mighf be installed in Guyana jungles and swamps to deNazify crude oil fields and gold & bauxites mines.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

Noooo, Drumpf! You can't just win all the time. It isn't fair to our enemies!

Its Trump, he can mess up anything positive positive period.

 

[heloder]

Well China might ramp up their TikTok propaganda in retaliation - so that all American adults transition and cut their children's dicks off. Then they will have defeated them.

Your transgender phobia notwithstanding, this thread will not age well, and it probably won't even be a month before that becomes apparent.

Beyond being evil and treasonous, Trump and his administration are staggeringly incompetent. So even if you agree with what they did with Maduro, the odds of them pulling off the actual difficult part (everything that comes after the initial attack) are pretty slim. This is going to be an enormous shit-show, which is exactly what Trump wants, because the entire purpose of this attack was to distract from his connections with Epstein and give him the pretext he needs to fuck with this year's elections.

 

[Romulas]

The United States is not judge, jury and executioner of the world's governments.

Actually, more so than any other country on the planet, the US is judge, jury and executioner.

 

[Rod1]

lol Now law just doesn't matter.
The analogy wasn't supposed to be a perfect 1:1. The point wasn't literally about police because my whole position is that America isn't supposed to be the police. I'm obviously talking about the stupidity of justifying a "good guy" doing illegal things because the bad guy is badder. The danger of that mindset, as well as the hypocrisy of it.

The point of an analogy is to be analogous, otherwise its not an analogy

What's retarded is all you people trying to act like the law and norms simply don't matter because we don't have a literal world police force.
As if the US doesn't use laws and norms to justify its own actions and bring other countries to heel. As if THIS unilateral action was the only available option to address Maduro, as if Trump actually gives a fuck about Venezuelans, or as if kidnapping a leader of another country and declaring we're going to "run it" is remotely within the norms.
This is such a farce of an argument; it's insulting.

Laws and norms matter as long as people are willing to enforce them, otherwise its meaningless.