International Deposing Maduro was a Massive Win

[scoopj]

Not great sources yet but i have seen that claim.. un named official

Venezuelan Official Says at Least 40 People Were Killed in U.S. Attack

The official said the dead included civilians and military personnel. At least one of the civilians was killed in a U.S. airstrike outside of Caracas, according to her family.

www.nytimes.com

Venezuelan Official Says at Least 40 People Were Killed in U.S. Attack​

The official said the dead included civilians and military personnel. At least one of the civilians was killed in a U.S. airstrike outside of Caracas, according to her family.

That's what I read. "Civilians and military." But I'm asking for a source for multiple civilians killed.

 

[Rod1]

It's funny that you're saying this to me when it 100% applies to you. Classic projection.

I've always, always been against wars of aggression, especially illegal ones. I've always been against intervention in general. Before you bring up some bullshit, I'm worried about what we're doing, not what Russia is doing or anyone else.

You are only opposed to intervention when its the West doing so, this is why you have no issue with the myriad of foreign actors propping Maduro up.

 

[Rod1]

This is like the arguments where people try to defend cops doing illegal actions because they're doing it to criminals.

No, the analogy would only makes sense if cops don't exist, neither do judges exist

Only the law exists but nobody to enforce them people take matters into their own hands just for some retard to say "if you enforce the law then you are as bad as the criminals"

This isn't simply about morality, it's about law.
The other part of this is about the hypocrisy of America, Trump, and MAGA.
All of a sudden "the party of law and order" don't give a shit about the law.

Again there is no such thing as international law that its binding.

Feel how you want to feel about this, but the reason why people that actually give a shit about the law are not happy with this is because we're supposed to be the country that actually follows the laws we're expecting everyone else to follow. I don't care if Venezuelans are happy about this or not---that's not how the law is supposed to work. We'd all be happy if cops executed baby murderers, but that's not how things are supposed to be done.
Maduro being illegitimate didn't grant the US the power to unilaterally unseat him by military force.

And when we stop following the rules, then it completely obliterates any reason for anyone else to...unless, they want to be "liberated" as well. It's a dangerous precedent to set, and other powers can use similar justifications to countries in their sphere.

Retarded argument.

If there was an international world police to deal with rogues like Maduro, you would have a point, there is none, this is you seeing a man murdering someone and saying "i can't do shit because taking matters into my own hands is illegal" in a world where cops don't exist.

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

You haven’t explained why deposing Maduro necessarily leads to what yer fuckin' predicting. Ya literally just sprayed geography quizzes -- oil "buzzwords" -- managed to get Epstein in like a boss -- and “people are dumb” into one pile and called it insight.

Fuck -- did I miss anything?

Knowing facts ain't the same as understanding causality -- And screaming “clusterfuck” doesn’t magically substitute for one. If yer position only works when everyone else is ignorant -- then the position isn’t strong -- but it sure as shit is just a LOUD NOISE.

Watchin' you make these kinda posts in record numbers -- I'm more or less wondering what fuckin' banned account you leftovers from -- but if this is the agility and depth of yer opinion -- starting yer own stupidity crusade -- then thank you for the show.

"fire off passive aggressive questions to hide their ignorance"

 

[Anewt]

Well. I guess you could call it a win.

The entire world is beginning to look at usa for what it is. Usa have gained a lot more oil, distrust and fear though.

On a side note. I prefer this than a hot war or false flag or coupe

 

[MetalMilitia]

"fire off passive aggressive questions to hide their ignorance"

If that's how you read it, sure. -- What a comeback discussion you just presented. I be white girl flabbergasted.

 

[heloder]

Yep, everyone who opposes illegal wars of aggression is a communist. High IQ take.

Whippie's so out of ideas that he's just reverting back to a 1960's Republican where everybody he doesn't like is a communist.

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

I ain't answering passive aggressive questions from people who have proven over my months here they have no idea about the region
I advocate anyone to do the same thing. They have no idea and don't want to know. They have proven this.

 

[SandisLL]

At least they will not be mobilized in order to install them in Guyana jungles and swamps to die, at least maybe xxx xxx youngsters will not die for one idiot.

Ofc I do know that it is what it is, here and why in reality and this isn't good for U.S.
However Maduro retardiness level get till idea to install conscripts in Guyana and conduct referendums etc. Despite Venezuela does have gold, crude oil, a lot of food, semi precious and precious gemstones etc.
To send xxx xxx conscripts to die in Guyana swamps?
Why?

 

[MetalMilitia]

I ain't answering passive aggressive questions from people who have proven over my months here they have no idea about the region
I advocate anyone to do the same thing. They have no idea and don't want to know. They have proven this.

Yup -- close ya mind on information and parrot narratives from a political party. That checks out.

Sorry if I kicked up sand in ya va-jay-jay or special man place theater location -- area region operation immune to communication -- yet-- preaching communication and procrastination leads to a hurt location.

Diss track writes itself I guess.

 

[SandisLL]

Whippie's so out of ideas that he's just reverting back to a 1960's Republican where everybody he doesn't like is a communist.

Because 99% of yanks doesn't have any basic clue what is communism.

 

[Anewt]

Sums up how a few have viewed it

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

"yeah we'll remove maduro then etc etc etc"
They didn't even know about her and her insanely psychotic brother next up. They don't even know this guy who is her partner. The dude could go full Pinochet, he's known to be crazy as shit.
They no fucking clue about the monsters in both sides.
And they are giving us their 10 year forecast Totally unaware that the cult leader in orange women's make up might have just put an actual mass murdering psychopath in charge with his sister being the public front side.

Look what they typed yesterday. They had no idea.

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

Because 99% of yanks doesn't have any basic clue what is communism.

Not a single maga yesterday
Knew who was up next in the maduro regime
Knew who was next in the opposition regime
And almost all proceeded to give their hot takes on who would take over. I'm not making it up.

 

[USA!USA!]

It's wayyyy too early

It looked like a successful mission, but we will have to see how everything plays out in the country before declaring a massive victory

It was an impressive display of military planning and ability, but there are a lot more questions that need to be answered as to the fallout of the operation

 

[moon to me]

Noooo, Drumpf! You can't just win all the time. It isn't fair to our enemies!

 

[K-Bag]

TDS has people defending Maduro lol

 

[MetalMilitia]

TDS has people defending Maduro lol

You ain't a war room fella (at least not normally seen) -- crazy logic to pop in with, sir.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

No, the analogy would only makes sense if cops don't exist, neither do judges exist

Only the law exists but nobody to enforce them people take matters into their own hands just for some retard to say "if you enforce the law then you are as bad as the criminals"



Again there is no such thing as international law that its binding.



Retarded argument.

If there was an international world police to deal with rogues like Maduro, you would have a point, there is none, this is you seeing a man murdering someone and saying "i can't do shit because taking matters into my own hands is illegal" in a world where cops don't exist.

lol Now law just doesn't matter.
The analogy wasn't supposed to be a perfect 1:1. The point wasn't literally about police because my whole position is that America isn't supposed to be the police. I'm obviously talking about the stupidity of justifying a "good guy" doing illegal things because the bad guy is badder. The danger of that mindset, as well as the hypocrisy of it.

What's retarded is all you people trying to act like the law and norms simply don't matter because we don't have a literal world police force.
As if the US doesn't use laws and norms to justify its own actions and bring other countries to heel. As if THIS unilateral action was the only available option to address Maduro, as if Trump actually gives a fuck about Venezuelans, or as if kidnapping a leader of another country and declaring we're going to "run it" is remotely within the norms.
This is such a farce of an argument; it's insulting.

 

[SandisLL]

Not a single maga yesterday
Knew who was up next in the maduro regime
Knew who was next in the opposition regime
And almost all proceeded to give their hot takes on who would take over. I'm not making it up.

They might ofc to send some missiles etc but how to control all Venezuela?
Dunno.

At least without Maduro they will not mobilize and send youngsters in Guyana .....this alone is good, otherwise hi might sent xxx xxx mobiks to die in Guyana.