News Deadline: Jake Paul reduces amount asked for fighter pay in last ditch offer to get Dana to accept

[sonhow]

What will Jake do if Dana refuses?

Will he release its everyday bro part deux?

 

[Apollo33]

It’s off topic to ask what individual sports have a union with a cba in a discussion about starting a union in an individual sport?

And plenty of educated men in combat sports.

There are only 3 other individual sports that are comparable to MMA in terms of revenue. Tennis, Boxing and Golf. I don't know anything about Golf

Boxing has the Ali act, and there's no single dominant operating entity like the UFC.
Tennis is also mainly tournament based, and each of the Grand Slams operate on their own. There has been a lot of grumblings in tennis in recent years very similar to the UFC about athletes pay and forming a player's association to bargain for better pay. Professional tennis has a lot of same issues, training is very expensive, pay is only good at the top. Grand Slams hide their revenue figures like the UFC, and they are rumored to only pay out 10-18% of their revenue to the Prize Pool. Recently due to public outcry, tournaments have made efforts to increase the prize pool, but the real figures are still hidden like the UFC. It's an ongoing situation, and many athletes are not satisfied. And just like the UFC only if all players can band together and bargain, they will continue to be ripped off by ATP and the Slams.

 

[dragonsfly]

Dana wants to get him in the UFC so that he gets a lesson of a life time which is a beat up

 

[BlueMountState]

Jake "65K" Paul is getting desperate. Red Goof is walkinb away with this.

ur a dumbass

 

[STAY GOLD]

I agree with Jake Paul's initiative, but let's be real, he doesn't really care. He's just doing it for the publicity of it, specially since the numbers of his last fight with Woodley weren't that great.

 

[kflo]

There are only 3 other individual sports that are comparable to MMA in terms of revenue. Tennis, Boxing and Golf. I don't know anything about Golf

Boxing has the Ali act, and there's no single dominant operating entity like the UFC.
Tennis is also mainly tournament based, and each of the Grand Slams operate on their own. There has been a lot of grumblings in tennis in recent years very similar to the UFC about athletes pay and forming a player's association to bargain for better pay. Professional tennis has a lot of same issues, training is very expensive, pay is only good at the top. Grand Slams hide their revenue figures like the UFC, and they are rumored to only pay out 10-18% of their revenue to the Prize Pool. Recently due to public outcry, tournaments have made efforts to increase the prize pool, but the real figures are still hidden like the UFC. It's an ongoing situation, and many athletes are not satisfied. And just like the UFC only if all players can band together and bargain, they will continue to be ripped off by ATP and the Slams.

And you can call it getting ripped off but the system works pretty well for the players on an absolute basis. The tournaments compete against other tournaments. Wimbledon isn’t the same as the ATP.

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

Healthcare's already free in every first world civilized country.

Trump said his plan was "you can chose any plan you want" and that the government would pay for it. That is Dana's boy.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

The NBA has health care for former players. I think you have to have played 3 years. The NFL and NBA have pensions. But the difference is, they are employees...fighters are not.

I'm talking about combat sports and not team sports. Team sports are very different and ran differently. They have drafts and all that, completely different dynamic compared to combat sports.

 

[Bob Sapp]

I agree with Jake Paul's initiative, but let's be real, he doesn't really care. He's just doing it for the publicity of it, specially since the numbers of his last fight with Woodley weren't that great.

This is true

 

[BigGucci]

Healthcare's already free in every first world civilized country.

B b but that's socialism! That's completely different than our social security system that redistribute wealth!

 

[MarleyLynx]

They have health insurance for injuries suffered in fights and in training.

Yeah it's a bit misleading what Jake says.

What he means is life-long healthcare long after you retire or leave the company to cover anything that might manifest as a problem later in life.
Which is a different thing from having healthcare.

 

[wufabufa]

Get rid of minimum pay. Drastically increase the amount and number of bonuses to really incentivize fighters to put on exciting fights. The bonus pool should be at least $1 million per event.

Give long-term healthcare and pension benefits to fighters that reach a certain number of fights in the UFC. Long-term healthcare could start at 6 fights and pension benefits could start at 12 fights. Long-term healthcare is forfeited if fighters compete in a different organization or combat sport after their time in the UFC.

I sure as shit would never work for a company with the policies you outlined. That sounds awful.

 

[Oscar Madison]

Jake has got a lot going for him -- successful social media presence and platforms, youth, entertainment contacts, surprising business sense, etc -- to go all in on his own Fighter Promotion; but wants to give away other people's money.

Weak. Very Weak.

 

[Game_Bred_Irish]

I would love for the fighters to be employees and have the right to unionize, but it’s pretty clear cut that they are not employees. There are some ways that the UFC tries to treat them like employees, but they’re not. It’s not a technicality.

You don't have to be employees to unionize, you might lack some legal protections due to not being employees, but unionizing is really just about collective bargaining.

 

[NoSmilez]

Long term healthcare deal for all UFC fighters is odd. No insurance company will even write up a policy for this.

 

[Tapatio]

Lmfao clever ruse by an attention whore. Paul doesn't give two shits about anything not named Jake Paul. Keeping Dana in the same sentence as him keeps him relevant.

 

[kevinramsdell]

Jake "65K" Paul is getting desperate. Red Goof is walkinb away with this.

PPV numbers were only rumored, and even if he did only 65k for this fight, who cares? Nobody wanted to see it in the first place lol. They wanted the Fury fight. His first fight with Woodley did 500k with full hype and proper promotion. The UFC has done under 200k multiple times in even the ESPN+ era. Remember Holloway vs. Poirier? Shit that card did nothing lmao. Sometimes fights flop, and if you're going to charge $50+ for a PPV, it has to be a good one.

 

[Starman]

Very few contractors also sustain injuries to the extent fighters do.

I don’t think you’ve thought this through. Contractors do some of the most dangerous work on earth, in some of the most dangerous places, under some of the most dangerous conditions.

Oil rig workers, for example, average more deaths in a year than the UFC ever had in its history. Which is zero, by the way. Even if you include every MMA organization, the claim still stands.

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

Throw in a set of fake Pokemon cards and it is a deal.

 

[avenue94]

I don’t think you’ve thought this through. Contractors do some of the most dangerous work on earth, in some of the most dangerous places, under some of the most dangerous conditions.

Oil rig workers, for example, average more deaths in a year than the UFC ever had in its history. Which is zero, by the way. Even if you include every MMA organization, the claim still stands.

Danger isn't just death. Quality of life and brain trauma matters. Hence me saying being a professional prize fighter is much more impactful to health than most other contracting gigs. Btw, have you ever heard of an oil rig worker being forced to work another year because their employer said they had to? I haven't.