Covington is 0-3 against elite competition in the UFC

If this is true, then no one at WW has many quality wins. Edwards, Usman, Burns, etc. also have a lot of wins over aging versions of Masvidal, Maia, Lawler, Diaz, Woodley, Wonderboy, etc.
 
humdizzle said:
beats washed Woodley, Maia, and Lawler. They all retired not long after those fights.
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Maia was 7-1 in his prior 8 fights before fighting Colby. He went on to have another 3-fight win streak after beating Colby. I know you're trying to make a point but please don't flat out lie. Like I said in another comment, most guys who have been at the top of the WW division for a while have a lot of wins over aging WW who were past their primes.
 
Colby gets away with fighting easier competition, less often, for apparently more money.

Who wouldn't.

Like usual, Dana is the problem here. Or, fans are for generating the revenue streams that informs Dana's decisions.

But maybe after this last debacle, we've seen the last of this drama. Cross fingers.
 
RDa was elite. 3-0 over good comp and win over previous champ Lawler . It doesnt matter what happened after. Maia was borderline elite. Could still beat favorable top comp at the time
 
HHJ said:
I mean his competitiveness in the two Usman fights is why people hold his skill in high regard. He lost but he looked good enough that people still could believe he could be champ with the right oppurtunities. I think that window is closed now though.
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Reasonable take
 
Portland8242 said:
This whole idea of him being an elite fighter because he had close fights with Kamaru is complete BS.

RDA was never an elite win for WW. The best thing RDA did was beat over the hill Lawler, I'm a big RDA fan but he was too small for WW. No hate at all towards him, but he just wasn't that great at WW. This was Colby's premier win in his career to get his interim fake belt.

Wins over washed up fighters like Masvidal, Lawler and Woodley don't mean much but all you heard from his braindead fanboys was how he "dominated" his fights even though the competition he fought was total dogshit. A lot of knowledgeable MMA fans casted doubt on his level of competition but for some reason these dipshits couldn't see it.

Dana with his whole line of "If Kamaru wasn't around Colby would be champion" pretty much proves Dana doesn't know shit about MMA nowadays.
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Let’s be honest, he never deserved a title fight let alone 4, but his haters keep him in the limelight.
 
sonhow said:
RDa was elite. 3-0 over good comp and win over previous champ Lawler
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Lawler was clearly done by the time he fought RDA. Lawler also suffered a torn ACL and meniscus halfway through that 5 round RDA fight.
 
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As much as it pains me to say, Colby has had a very successful mma career. Not being the absolute best is not a failure despite what mma "fans" think.
 
Colby is/was a very good fighter. Since 2018 though, he has been employing the Conor method: never risk anything outside of title fights. Of course, this only works when you have Dana enabling you.

People mocked Masvidal for ducking top competition, but outside of the two title shots vs Usman, Masvidal's competition has been much stronger that Colby's:

- Colby (17-3)
- Till (17-1)
- Askren (19-0)
- Burns (21-5)
- Nate (20-11)

In that same timeframe, outside of his three title shots, Colby has fought:

- Robbie (28-13) ...0-2 in his last 2
- Woodley (19-6) ...0-2 in his last 2
- Masvidal (35-15) ...0-2 in his last 2

Colby isn't very smart, but donning the MAGA costume was a great move. It has granted him levels of favouritism that are only surpassed by the master of promotional corruption himself, Conor McGregor. Seriously: what other fighter has been granted title shot after title shot based off wins over guys who were on a two fight losing streak?
 
Colby’s resume is very shallow. His only notable performances were losses. Other than that, it’s just a bunch of sitting out cherry picking old washed dudes.
 
I don’t think he beat RDA, he fooled the judges in that second round with his punching the arms business, and one takedown isn’t enough to overcome the striking deficit in my humble opinion
 
Not very surprising when all he has is elite cardio, terrible striking, slightly above average wrestling, average BJJ.

Always a fish out of water when he can't get the takedown.
 
mkt said:
Maia was 7-1 in his prior 8 fights before fighting Colby. He went on to have another 3-fight win streak after beating Colby. I know you're trying to make a point but please don't flat out lie. Like I said in another comment, most guys who have been at the top of the WW division for a while have a lot of wins over aging WW who were past their primes.
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Maia is his best win IMO. RDA was also good, but RDA lost to all the top guys at that time just due to size and wrestling. The Mas win was ok, he just did it by his version of Usman's toe stomping.

Credit where credit is due, Colby escaped from a legit nija choke/power guillotine and a reasonable triangle armbar. He still probably outwrestles most of the division and I think he comfortably beats Belal.

I am going to put it out there and say I think that Colby/Usman period of WW was one of the weakest. GSPs era was stronger, Lalwers era was great due to variety of styles, Woodley had a prime Wonderboy who has held on till today, but Usman's era was just grapplers and Masvidal.

The current era is weird with Belal being effectively Fitch 2.0 and Shavkat looking like a legit threat. Maddelena is good on the feet, but probably doesn't get past Burns and Brady loses to anyone that he can't immediately dominate in the grappling.

Fights have been pretty exciting though so no complaints.
 
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I mean, he certainly could have beaten Masvidal and Burns to hold the title, so that aspect is at least arguably correct.

His wins were fine. But not elite. He's lost to elite competition, not really beaten elite competition. It is what it is and now he's old, so not sure why you guys are still obsessed with him now that he's finally gonna be a mid-card draw.
 
HHJ said:
I mean his competitiveness in the two Usman fights is why people hold his skill in high regard. He lost but he looked good enough that people still could believe he could be champ with the right oppurtunities. I think that window is closed now though.
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Lol just like how Gus would be champ without Jones right? Except DC beat him and Rumble sent him to the shadow realms. And unlike Colby Gus actually got some good wins in the division, beating Glover and Blachowicz.

This idea that losing a competitive fight to the champ makes you the second best guy has never held merit.
 
pankrat said:
Im a big Colby hater.

Answer who are the elite WWs of Usman generation besides Usman himself if Colby wasnt.
Dont come up with new generation guys who have just got in the rankings this or the last year. Colby was interim champ 5 years ago.

Go ahead. Also, grow up.
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Burns, a prime Wonderboy. He should have fought one of those two instead of Lawler or Masvidal. Both of them have better wins than he does.
 
maximus__ said:
Maia is his best win IMO. RDA was also good, but RDA lost to all the top guys at that time just due to size and wrestling. The Mas win was ok, he just did it by his version of Usman's toe stomping.

Credit where credit is due, Colby escaped from a legit nija choke/power guillotine and a reasonable triangle armbar. He still probably outwrestles most of the division and I think he comfortably beats Belal.

I am going to put it out there and say I think that Colby/Usman period of WW was one of the weakest. GSPs era was stronger, Lalwers era was great due to variety of styles, Woodley had a prime Wonderboy who has held on till today, but Usman's era was just grapplers and Masvidal.

The current era is weird with Belal being effectively Fitch 2.0 and Shavkat looking like a legit threat. Maddelena is good on the feet, but probably doesn't get past Burns and Brady loses to anyone that he can't immediately dominate in the grappling.

Fights have been pretty exciting though so no complaints.
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Good points. I agree about the lack of styles. The other day I mentioned how I wish there were guys like prime Lawler, Condit or even a Strikeforce-era Nick Diaz who could challenge Edwards. I think Edwards is more technical than any of them, but they'd all push the pace and attempt to bring the violence...especially Nick.

Back in the WW glory days, you also had Palhares and briefly Hector Lombard, who looked a lot better at WW than he ever did at MW. He completely dominated Shields until he gassed in the last round (but stil held on and got the UD).
 
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