• Xenforo Cloud is upgrading us to version 2.3.8 on Monday February 16th, 2026 at 12:00 AM PST. Expect a temporary downtime during this process. More info here

Law Coronavirus the US GOV'T Response analysis Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
SBJJ said:
It was provided to you on multiple occasions.

Why did you feel the need to lie about what Trump said? He does lie, so why did you feel the need to lie about this?
Click to expand...


He said this

“It is very effective. It is a strong drug,” Trump declared at a long, sprawling televised briefing

Very effective means it works.

So give me that study with a control group
 
The Wuhan study was control. Not French study
 
Bloody Pulp said:
<Dany07>

I’d almost be okay with Biden winning just for these moments.


Almost.
Click to expand...


Consider this.


Want to know how energized Democrats are for the election? I couldn’t find an election related thread, within the first 5 pages.


They know they’re getting smashed in November.
 
Last edited:
SBJJ said:
So you lied when you said he called it a cure. Not surprising.

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/03/31/comparing-chloroquine-trials
Click to expand...

Lol at me lying he said it was very effective. From your link about 2 studies in China... based on groups of 30 patients..


"You could argue that overall we’re seeing either no benefit or some benefit here, which is good. As for adverse events, neither trial reported anything serious, But both of them excluded patients with any sort of cardiac arrhythmias, a wise precaution since one of the most acute worries with high doses of hydroxychloroquine is QT-interval prolongation, and you don’t want to do that to anyone with any underlying problems. So as long as such patients are excluded, for now hydroxychloroquine is in the “might do nothing, might do some good” category, which under the current conditions seems sufficient for treating patients, pending further data. You will notice that we are not exactly in the “total cure” category that the Marseilles group has been putting itself in, but frankly, these results from China are more like what I expect from the clinic (at best!) when using a repurposed drug against such a pathogen"

So it went from very effective to showing no benefit or maybe some benefit.

And again from China.
 
PolishHeadlock2 said:
Lol at me lying he said it was very effective. From your link about 2 studies in China... based on groups of 30 patients..


"You could argue that overall we’re seeing either no benefit or some benefit here, which is good. As for adverse events, neither trial reported anything serious, But both of them excluded patients with any sort of cardiac arrhythmias, a wise precaution since one of the most acute worries with high doses of hydroxychloroquine is QT-interval prolongation, and you don’t want to do that to anyone with any underlying problems. So as long as such patients are excluded, for now hydroxychloroquine is in the “might do nothing, might do some good” category, which under the current conditions seems sufficient for treating patients, pending further data. You will notice that we are not exactly in the “total cure” category that the Marseilles group has been putting itself in, but frankly, these results from China are more like what I expect from the clinic (at best!) when using a repurposed drug against such a pathogen"

So it went from very effective to showing no benefit or maybe some benefit.

And again from China.
Click to expand...

You really are clueless on how studies work.

IT IS NOT A CURE! So the study will show such. But the control group SHOWED improvement in all categories. From time of infection to improvement in pneumonia.

You are the ONLY one demanding this be a cure. And you are the one that lied about what Trump said.

Bottom line....this control study was at a MINIMUM a mild success where those on the drug did better than those not
 
SBJJ said:
You really are clueless on how studies work.

IT IS NOT A CURE! So the study will show such. But the control group SHOWED improvement in all categories. From time of infection to improvement in pneumonia.

You are the ONLY one demanding this be a cure. And you are the one that lied about what Trump said.

Bottom line....this control study was at a MINIMUM a mild success where those on the drug did better than those not
Click to expand...

That's not what your link says.

You should read it
 
So you've gone from this drug is dangerous. To this drug has no proof. To this drug has no control study. To I do not like the control study conducted.

Yea dude. You are not looking at this from a shitty partisan slant at all
 
Last edited:
About 1/3 of the confirmed cases in my state have recovered. I suppose thats going to change with the report tomorrow, but thats a good % getting past it pretty quickly.
 
SBJJ said:
So you've gone from this drug is dangerous. To this drug has no proof. To this drug has no control study. To I do not like the control study conducted.

Yea dude. You are not looking at this from a shitty partisan slant at all
Click to expand...

Your link says this drug is dangerous to certain people with underlying conditions.

But the other danger is hoarding the drug do it's unavailable to people that actually need it.

Again you should read your own link.

Either you didn't or you don't understand it.

Both of those options would explain your posts.

And you lied that it was from France. These are Chinese studies
 
PolishHeadlock2 said:
Your link says this drug is dangerous to certain people with underlying conditions.

But the other danger is hoarding the drug do it's unavailable to people that actually need it.

Again you should read your own link.

Either you didn't or you don't understand it.

Both of those options would explain your posts.

And you lied that it was from France. These are Chinese studies
Click to expand...


Keep up. I corrected from french to chinese in my post.

You obviously are mixing up groups. As I've posted you 2 sources that show the improvements made in the drug group. If you've been reduced to just ignoring actual data that is on you.

So now the danger is hoarding the drug. You really are all over the place here.

Again, I simplistically typed out just one factor where the controlled study showed an improvement. Because it seems you are getting the groups mixed up.

I fear the only way you would admit you are wrong here is if CNN told you that you were.
 
Just so we're all aware saying a drug is very effective is the same as saying maybe the drug will work and maybe it won't. Also consistent with saying the drug is a game changer lol

He hasn't changed his tone lol
 
Also Polish, you seem to believe that any study that shows a less than 100% success rate it would be considered a failure. That is NOT the way treatments work. A drug will not treat everyone the same way. People will still die. Some will still get sick. And these are straight chloroquine studies. Not combo drug studies(chloroquine/Z pack)

You seem to be confusing treatment with Cure/Vaccine
 
PolishHeadlock2 said:
Just so we're all aware saying a drug is very effective is the same as saying maybe the drug will work and maybe it won't. Also consistent with saying the drug is a game changer lol

He hasn't changed his tone lol
Click to expand...

Saying a drug is very effective is not saying it is a cure.

Ibuprofen is a very effective drug for headaches but does not cure one of headaches

Doctors do seem to look at it as a game changer as they believe it is the best treatment for the virus.
 
Some smart person tell me why the U.S. hasn't made tons of masks and ventilators in the past month.

How are we so incompetent?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
1,282,176
Messages
58,422,531
Members
176,033
Latest member
ManoFan

Share this page

Back
Top