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Speaking of Bernie, the pro Bernie youtubers have been cringe lately.

The Humanist Report guys seems like he's always on the verge of crying all the time. David Pakman is just a douche.

It's like in their eyes the guy can do no wrong. They make videos titled "Why are we losing?" and there is no introspection at all. No admitting that they were far too hostile to those who could have been allies.

Maybe next time, well if there was a next time, they should recognize that the whole "You suck. We hate you. You are irrelevant. You have NO chance. You're a corporate sell out! Oh and please join us and endorse Bernie" routine isn't the best way to win people over.
 
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President Trumps and his Presidency is going to much like many of his businesses be viewed poorly. There no getting around that fact and the videos of him talking up massive tax breaks that in hindsight seem poorly planned.

Given now the US is in the middle of the worst pandemic it has faced since 1918 "President Trumps own words". The debt has increased by a historic level while other countries outside of Italy and a few others have seen reductions in cases an sooner will be better off. "

More and more there is a feeling around Wall Street that Trumps lack of aggressive efforts early on has put the US economy in the short term in jeopardy". As a member of the Fed said we could be looking at 20 percent unemployment by July. "

"You can tell there is a panic around Wall Street an recent comments by President Trump on quarantining New York has made them even more upset. This is not a good situation right now.





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It’s been an historic week for the U.S. with president Donald Trump signing a record $2.2 trillion coronavirus-induced emergency stimulus package.

The massive cross-party rescue deal is designed to help Americans and businesses cope with the economic shutdown caused by the coronavirus COVID-19 pandemic.
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"The U.S. dollar has taken a beating, however, dropping almost 4% against a basket of currencies this week—its biggest weekly loss since the height of the global financial crisis over 10 years ago."

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This week’s losses come on the back of the dollar index’s biggest weekly gain since the financial crisis, with the dollar surging as investors scrambled for the world’s most liquid currency amid crashing stock and debt markets.

“In short-term, huge dollar demand because short-covering, but it won’t last,” Wall Street veteran and founder of Wyoming-based crypto bank Avanti, Caitlin Long, said via Twitter, adding she expects the U.S. Federal Reserve’s balance sheet to top $10 trillion before the coronavirus crisis is over and predicting the dollar’s eventual .

The Fed has also cut its benchmark interest rate to near zero and made sure commercial banks will continue lending to companies, cities and states—all told the extraordinary measures are expected to grow the Fed’s balance sheet by $4.5 trillion this year.

Throughout and in the aftermath of the global financial crisis the Fed grew its balance sheet by a paltry $3.7 trillion.

“The beautiful thing about our country is $6.2 trillion—because it is 2.2 plus four [combining the Fed’s action and the cross-party rescue bill]—it’s $6.2 trillion, and we can handle that easily because of who we are, what we are,” Trump said, speaking after the bill’s historic White House signing ceremony, and boasting the package was “twice as large” as any prior relief bill.

The bill will see individuals and companies whose livelihoods and businesses have been affected by the coronavirus pandemic receive direct payments, with every American earning less than $75,000 per year picking up a one off payment of $1,200, as well as $500 per child.

“It’s our money; we are the ones, it’s our currency,” Trump said."

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Speaking of Bernie, the pro Bernie youtubers have been cringe lately.

The Humanist Report guys seems like he's always on the verge of crying all the time. David Pakman is just a douche.

It's like in their eyes the guy can do no wrong. They make videos titled "Why are we losing?" and there is no introspection at all. No admitting that they were far too hostile to those who could have been allies.

Maybe next time, well if there was a next time, they should recognize that the whole "You suck. We hate you. You are irrelevant. You have NO chance. You're a corporate sell out! Oh and please join us and endorse Bernie" routine isn't the best way to win people over.
I don’t think it’s so much the animosity is campaign supposedly presented. it’s that people weren’t buying his pipe dream proposals. You simply can’t give away everything, and take away every bit of struggle related to the human existence. That’s a fairytale.
 
There were 200 posts in this thread the last time I opened it

Just astounding that people are still sucked into trump's vortex and wasting energy defending him
 
Here is what Susan Rice had to say on a podcast on Trump and how the previous administration would have supposedly handled it. I'm no obama or neoliberal fan in the slightest, but I dont doubt any of it.


- Trump isn’t close to using all of the government’s power
- Would've used Defensive Production Act in January
- Coordinated global effort
- Military would be deployed to increase supply chain capacity
- Pandemic teams stood up
- During the ebola crisis, Obama was going to deploy 3,000 soldiers to Africa to help logistics to prevent spread to rest of world (ie field hospitals, airlift, etc.)

Added that we’ve squandered our world leadership and now no one desires to help us.
 
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Here is what Susan Rice had to say on a podcast on Trump and how the previous administration would have supposedly handled it. I'm no obama or neoliberal fan in the slightest, but I dont doubt any of it.


- Trump isn’t close to using all of the government’s power
- Would've used Defensive Production Act in January
- Coordinated global effort
- Military would be deployed to increase supply chain capacity
- Pandemic teams stood up
- During the ebola crisis, Obama was going to deploy 3,000 soldiers to Africa to help logistics to prevent spread to rest of world (ie field hospitals, airlift, etc.)

Added that we’ve squandered our world leadership and now no one desires to help us.


Monday morning quarterback A person who acts like they have all the answers to a problem, especially in hindsight, usually without having any experience in that area. Likened to fans and commentators who criticize a football team after a Sunday game. Primarily heard in US.
 
For this analogy to work: the Monday morning quarterback actually had a proper gameplan in place, but the replacement QB came in and fired the coordinator (pandemic response team) and called his own plays off his gut and hunches
 
This is a great story about an NFL hero who had a troubled past. He is now a ER doctor who is fighting the real fight coronavirus one.

 
Before I start this rant, I will say that I would take a bullet for President Sanders. However, Senator Sanders can fornicate with himself in a van down by the river.

Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez put on a show the past few days. But ended up voting for this largest corporate bail out in the history of all things.

If the bill is so horrible, why did they vote for in favor of it? Sanders got in unemployment for 4 months and nothing else. AOC got a soundbite for her reelection. I know, what else were they supposed to do, right?

What should they do? Admit they made mistakes? Admit they have done this before? Write a song about how they should have never given you idiots money? Should he stop listening to his best-good friend, Joe? That's his best-good friend! They are starting a shrimping business. Maybe they should just disappear.

Sanders 2020
-Seriously, what should I do?

Ocasio-Cortez 2020
-Nothing else I could do. I guess.

Why do you think he would be any different as President? The Democrats are constantly telling you guys who they really are, and you folks seem to not want to believe them.
 
This is a great story about an NFL hero who had a troubled past. He is now a ER doctor who is fighting the real fight coronavirus one.




Wow. I don’t know anything about the story, but you have to be pretty damn talented to make the nfl, and have your fallback career be a doctor.


Hespect.
 
The reason is simple the Fed. The Fed will pump 1 trillion a day into the market making whatever Congress does seem meaningless. Nancy Pelosi already said they will meet again for additional stimulus. Wall Street even said it's not enough. 2 trillion not enough in the end the Congress could approve of double that amount.

That's because 2 trillion dollars isn't actually going into the economy. Most of it is going to pet projects and stuff that doesn't benefit anyone.
 
the real question is, how many guns does the average american need to fight the covid virus?



A: ~2.22X the normal merican intake of guns.


You can see pics of those brave merican's fighting an infectious disease by standing in a line in a gun store inches apart in a line to fight covid that goes outside round the block, in multiple gun stores

Q: how many bullets should you have on hand to kill covid?

This post is so stunning while at the same time being brave that I almost don't know what to say.
 
the real question is, how many guns does the average american need to fight the covid virus?



A: ~2.22X the normal merican intake of guns.


You can see pics of those brave merican's fighting an infectious disease by standing in a line in a gun store inches apart in a line to fight covid that goes outside round the block, in multiple gun stores

Q: how many bullets should you have on hand to kill covid?
I feel bad for your brain
 


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This is a great story about an NFL hero who had a troubled past. He is now a ER doctor who is fighting the real fight coronavirus one.




I remember him. He got drafted lower because teams though he might walk away from football.
 
For this analogy to work: the Monday morning quarterback actually had a proper gameplan in place, but the replacement QB came in and fired the coordinator (pandemic response team) and called his own plays off his gut and hunches
Oh and that backup QB is also consulting with known scumbag, ARod, for advice on corona response.

The excuses and foolish metaphors never cease to amaze me.
 
Before I start this rant, I will say that I would take a bullet for President Sanders. However, Senator Sanders can fornicate with himself in a van down by the river.

Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez put on a show the past few days. But ended up voting for this largest corporate bail out in the history of all things.

If the bill is so horrible, why did they vote for in favor of it? Sanders got in unemployment for 4 months and nothing else. AOC got a soundbite for her reelection. I know, what else were they supposed to do, right?

What should they do? Admit they made mistakes? Admit they have done this before? Write a song about how they should have never given you idiots money? Should he stop listening to his best-good friend, Joe? That's his best-good friend! They are starting a shrimping business. Maybe they should just disappear.

Sanders 2020
-Seriously, what should I do?

Ocasio-Cortez 2020
-Nothing else I could do. I guess.

They and other Democrats voted in favor because to not do so is political suicide and the right and brainless moderates were beginning to howl. Now in a respectable situation, their vote and good faith that oversight committees would be able to control who and what Trump gives money to would matter and all sides would have some degree of agreement that he can't possibly wield that power on his own... but Republicans are wild and purely a tribal faction driving this car over a cliff.
 


1. That's some funny shit with the pawn shop dudes
2. The average amount spent on health care is 10k or so in the US. That should be enough to cover typical issues + coronavirus. Health care is such a fucking racket.
 
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