Crime Cop who shot 36 y/o woman in her home found guilty of 2nd Degree Murder

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

If this is the same video online before, then she didn't pour the water down the sink.

Not that she should have been shot, but I think we should have the facts straight.

Ah. I think one of the articles I read had it wrong then. Ill correct it. Good catch.

 

[Yoricks Wisdom]

There are over 800,000 cops in the US who respond to over 600,000 calls for service on a daily basis. How many are handled efficiently and professionally and how many are shady?
I guess we will never know if the culture of silence that you propose actually does exist.

But let’s switch gears and talk about George Floyd and Derek Chauvin. Did Floyd deserve to die? His exploits in the Texas home invasion where he put the loaded gun to the pregnant woman’s belly in and of itself earned him a dirt nap.

But that wasn’t for Chauvin to decide. He should’ve been charged with criminal negligence leading to death in other words homicide and then in what I believe to be a just society, face the death penalty.

Furthermore, any other law-enforcement personnel that were present and did nothing to intervene should be charged with conspiracy to commit murder and face appropriate consequences. It is incidents like this, and the ones that you have mentioned that paint a grim and disgusting picture of law-enforcement which I don't think is truly representative.

 

[lifelessheap]

There are over 800,000 cops in the US who respond to over 600,000 calls for service on a daily basis. How many are handled efficiently and professionally and how many are shady?
I guess we will never know if the culture of silence that you propose actually does exist.

But let’s switch gears and talk about George Floyd and Derek Chauvin. Did Floyd deserve to die? His exploits in the Texas home invasion where he put the loaded gun to the pregnant woman’s belly in and of itself earned him a dirt nap.

But that wasn’t for Chauvin to decide. He should’ve been charged with criminal negligence leading to death in other words homicide and then in what I believe to be a just society, face the death penalty.

Furthermore, any other law-enforcement personnel that were present and did nothing to intervene should be charged with conspiracy to commit murder and face appropriate consequences. It is incidents like this, and the ones that you have mentioned that paint a grim and disgusting picture of law-enforcement.

Floyd overdosed IMO. Chauvin was negligent and should have gotten off and felt for a pulse. He died in police custody and whatever charge that is would be appropriate.


There is so rarely accountability.




Do you trust a system that allows this?

 

[Yoricks Wisdom]

dude, we're pretty much done here IMO.
if you read the personnel/case assignment figures I cited, it's easy to see that
the vast majority of police/civilian encounters end or are resolved in some manner or other
without heinous misconduct by law enforcement.

training, oversight, accountability, etc.
sure.
In almost 26 yrs in LE, working a mostly Black part of town, I never received a single complaint for racism or excessive force.
Think about that for a moment and you'll begin to appreciate how much I despise rogue cops who abuse their powers.

 

[Broke Lester]

I recall this, seen the body cam footage, this cop is a murderer, shame he didn't get life.

 

[nhbbear]

looks like joshuaace was wrong and I was right. I called this-he claimed to be a defense lawyer and lost his marbles during the original thread. I tried to tag him, but it appears he has gone the way of the dodo. This was a bad shooting that I was talking to my students about on Wednesday. I was discussing how the first thing you do in any domestic call is to get people out of the kitchen or area that weapons can be found and separate the parties and I mentioned this incident where she went back in and got the boiling water. What a cunt Josh was-a real fucking prick. Too bad he is gone for omen this in

 

[nhbbear]

Part of the problem in LE these days is that no one wants to do it which is puzzling since the pay and benefits and retirement are great
PLUS departments ask cops to almost do nothing. No quotas, etc.

When I took the written entrance exam in 1980, there were 700 applicants in the room of Dwinelle Hall on UC campus.
The last time my department held a written test, there were 12.
They need bodies and sometimes settle for unworthy candidates IMO.

Yes, sir. It started in 2014 with the riots and protests of blm where cops got sick of having people scream in their face and not feeling supported by Obama. Then, 2020 was the death knell for law enforcement careers. I retired in 2020-not because of covid or riots, but after back surgery. When I took the test in 2001, there were over 300 people for 4 spots. Now, there are less than 20. Pay has doubled and if o was still a Lt and had not retired, I would be making over 108k and if I had progressed to deputy chief, even more.

 

[nhbbear]

Here’s the original thread where you can watch people crash out


https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...ed-for-assistance-in-her-home.4337082/page-46

 

[Yoricks Wisdom]

Nice input, amigo.

Big City pays more yo, btw.

My annual in retirement is $140K plus guaranteed 4% COLA increase every March.

AND full medical for life.

 

[nhbbear]

Nice input, amigo.

Big City pays more yo, btw.

My annual in retirement is $140K plus guaranteed 4% COLA increase every March.

AND full medical for life.

Yeah, that’s a fucking sweet deal, but I am in a smaller city outside Pittsburgh. I loved it. Tons of action when you wanted it and some quiet when you didn’t. But the pay was never that great until now. New officers start out at 68k which was more than I was making as a Lt when I retired. My pension is a bit less than I had anticipated but it is still extra money every month and I love my current job almost as much as I liked law enforcement at first. Now, I am teaching the future generations of law enforcement and entertaining them with cop war stories

 

[Yoricks Wisdom]

Good for you, pal.
Continued good fortune.

 

[Daverisimo]

No shit, it's very easy to NOT get kicked out for misconduct....just do your time, survive, and enjoy your bennis when you get out

I was Navy myself, but all the sailors or marines I know/ know of who got ADSEPs got it for drugs or repeated ARIs. In either case, they're definitely not people who should be given a badge and gun.

On a sidenote, why is it that most of the people I know of who got separated for drugs did Spice? Go big or go home you fucking cowards. Do coke or PCP or some shit like that like a man.

 

[ShadowRun]

If she was in a ball and shot 3 times the dude should get way more than 20 years.

 

[Source]

This then contains partial truth, cops do sometimes cover for others acting irresponsibly.

As far as departments behaving in that manner, it depends on location. Maybe in Hicksville USA, a dept

might cover for a POS but in big city depts, there is much more accountability. They will get suspended and fired.

I've seen it and it's a good thing. Public trust in LE is important and should be valued.

No one wants to be a rat, but if cops can expand their viewpoint to include ramifications involved, they need to act.

You might want to read into the LA Co Sheriff’s department.

 

[italiamusica]

I’m sorry, 4 to 20 years for blasting a woman that was curled up into a ball? How is that all he got?

Yeah it's absolutely fucked up and pathetic, he needs to be away for life. He clearly is a horrible piece of shit, if he gets out anytime soon he'll just keep doing it.

 

[italiamusica]

How are so many cops so poorly trained? From gun training to de-escalation, to straight-up abuse or lack of knowledge of the Bill of Rights?

The worst I have ever seen was that asshole cop who shot and killed that innocent dude in the hotel hallway as the cop put the poor guy through an insane Simon Says game and then capped him for no good reason.



The cop walked. If that man were in my family.... that cop would disappear or have a tragic accident.

This is the one that pissed me the fuck off the most, and the cop that killed him ended up going to therapy for "PTSD" because of the incident, and is acting like he's a victim because of it. He's a fucking scumbag.

 

[italiamusica]

You might want to read into the LA Co Sheriff’s department.

I can't remember his name, but wasn't there a huge story about that like, a decade ago? Former military guy working for LAPD, getting treated like shit and captains being racist to him, so he tried to do everything the right way and get them in trouble, but nothing came of it. Internal Affairs had everyone else's back, so this dude just started killing other cops to get his point across.

 

[italiamusica]

Nah. The 'good' cops never put the bad cops in check. And cops always investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing. The culture is trash. The training is trash. They don't serve and have literally zero obligation to protect.

Hundreds of cops showed up to Uvalde and they detained parents are the kids bled out.

Exactly, multiple school shootings where cops stood outside and refused to enter and stop anything, why the fuck are they cops if they're going to let kids die? It's beyond fucked up.

And yeah, the "good" cops don't change anything, the bad cops keep doing whatever they want and it's just business as usual.

The training is a huge issue, too. I remember that Navy Seal Jocko Wilink talking about how most police officers average about 5hrs of firearms training a year. So if they never have to use their gun, and they don't practice on their off time, they literally don't have to be competent at all.

 

[Tatra]

Here. It's pretty sad man. She playfully says "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus ", apologizes, balls up in fear, then gets murdered.

Dude's partner said he didn't see her as a threat but did see his partner as one

Spoiler: Body cam

That's just outright murder. I was thinking maybe she came at them with the boiling water which could be seen as a serious threat but these two were just thugs with guns and a badge. The death penalty is warranted here.

 

[MrShady]

I'm sorry but this "vast majority of cops are good" is bs because while their individual conduct may be sufficient, they still work within a system that is without integrity or ethics. It's evident on a daily basis whether you want to believe it or not, corruption and systemic immorality ran rampant.



How many lives have been ruined because of quotas and asset forfeiture all across america ?