Crime Cop who shot 36 y/o woman in her home found guilty of 2nd Degree Murder

I support cops in many instances, but this was completely insane. Should do life in prison. A middle aged woman cooking with a pot of water, what the hell? If he was so scared, which doesn't even make sense in the first place, he could've just put more distance between them, why escalate to shoot someone in the face? Psychopathic shit.
 
Some people were saying it was a justified shoot in the og thread...think it was merged into what cops do wrong based on a search.

I saw the video in the OG Thread. There was never any doubt in my mind the shitbag of a cop should go to jail. And that's before I knew about his military background etc.

I hope he gets the max possible sentence.
 
and I acknowledged the guy is a worthless fuck didn't I?
did I defend him in any way?
can you read?

the vast MAJORITY of cops do a decent job of policing a sometimes difficult population.
bad apples? and btw, he wasn't a cop for 'a very long time' either. more like four years.
of course, just like anywhere.
even a forum where recalcitrant reprobate trolls rock yellows all the time until they finally get the hammer.


Nah. The 'good' cops never put the bad cops in check. And cops always investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing. The culture is trash. The training is trash. They don't serve and have literally zero obligation to protect.

Hundreds of cops showed up to Uvalde and they detained parents are the kids bled out.
 
I’m sorry, 4 to 20 years for blasting a woman that was curled up into a ball? How is that all he got?
Guess thats the range in Illinois for 2nd degree but I agree should be more. Likely he will get the 20 and be out in 5-10
 
Agreed but this is Illinois bruh.... hes getting pc. Laws def need some adjustment... that is too light.
It's deeply concerning that such an obvious and extreme case didn't end in a slam dunk decision. They showed the cam in court, partner testified against him, and they still went soft. I can't wrap my head around it
 
It's deeply concerning that such an obvious and extreme case didn't end in a slam dunk decision. They showed the cam in court, partner testified against him, and they still went soft. I can't wrap my head around it
No doubt. Im guessing the premeditation part but yeah... the guy took a life bruh. Hopefully he will get denied parole when it comes up. In texas he would have gotten worse.
 
How are so many cops so poorly trained? From gun training to de-escalation, to straight-up abuse or lack of knowledge of the Bill of Rights?

The worst I have ever seen was that asshole cop who shot and killed that innocent dude in the hotel hallway as the cop put the poor guy through an insane Simon Says game and then capped him for no good reason.



The cop walked. If that man were in my family.... that cop would disappear or have a tragic accident.
 
How are so many cops so poorly trained? From gun training to de-escalation, to straight-up abuse or lack of knowledge of the Bill of Rights?

The worst I have ever seen was that asshole cop who shot and killed that innocent dude in the hotel hallway as the cop put the poor guy through an insane Simon Says game and then capped him for no good reason.



The cop walked. If that man were in my family.... that cop would disappear or have a tragic accident.

Because it costs money to train people
 
How are so many cops so poorly trained? From gun training to de-escalation, to straight-up abuse or lack of knowledge of the Bill of Rights?

The worst I have ever seen was that asshole cop who shot and killed that innocent dude in the hotel hallway as the cop put the poor guy through an insane Simon Says game and then capped him for no good reason.



The cop walked. If that man were in my family.... that cop would disappear or have a tragic accident.

Obviously there are some bad cops. But I think a lot of people don't have the personality to be cops. You have to be very calm under immense stress at times and it's just like anyone else in day-to-day life some people handle it easily and other people panic.
 
Nah. The 'good' cops never put the bad cops in check. And cops always investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing. The culture is trash. The training is trash. They don't serve and have literally zero obligation to protect.

Hundreds of cops showed up to Uvalde and they detained parents are the kids bled out.
Nah, the 'culture' is what the media feeds the unwitting, ignorant masses. i.e. you.

Again stressing regional differences, most cops do a decent job of meeting performance objectives.
I would agree that training needs to be vastly overhauled, especially at places like Podunk PD.

On a humorous note though, your name is appropriate. If you ever mistakenly call the police for assistance
they will no doubt shoot you for brandishing a keyboard at them and then you'll be on the ground....

A lifelessheap.

Good Day.
 
Nah, the 'culture' is what the media feeds the unwitting, ignorant masses. i.e. you.

Again stressing regional differences, most cops do a decent job of meeting performance objectives.
I would agree that training needs to be vastly overhauled, especially at places like Podunk PD.

On a humorous note though, your name is appropriate. If you ever mistakenly call the police for assistance
they will no doubt shoot you for brandishing a keyboard at them and then you'll be on the ground....

A lifelessheap.

Good Day.


If I ever have an enemy I will call the police on them for a welfare check. Bootlickers like you are why we can't abolish qualified immunity. Every cop knows he can hide behind the blue line and the injustice system. There is literally no accountability.

My local cops beat the shit out of an elderly man. Arrested him. And made him sit in his shit for 6 hours. Because he looked into the window of a cop car on his way out of the police station after dropping off expired prescription drugs.

Did anyone face discipline? Make a guess...
 
If I ever have an enemy I will call the police on them for a welfare check. Bootlickers like you are why we can't abolish qualified immunity. Every cop knows he can hide behind the blue line and the injustice system. There is literally no accountability.

My local cops beat the shit out of an elderly man. Arrested him. And made him sit in his shit for 6 hours. Because he looked into the window of a cop car on his way out of the police station after dropping off expired prescription drugs.

Did anyone face discipline? Make a guess...
ah the inevitable labeling you morons love to engage in. intellectual laziness is your hallmark. making sweeping generalizations based on
a few isolated incidents, ones you probably don't even know the actual details of, media 'bootlicker' that you are.

you don't know 'the culture' truly unless you've lived the culture. we did plenty of self policing in my day because if some clown misbehaves,
guess what? I face potential trouble as well for being there. Numerous times I took someone aside and said, "You put my employment
at risk again with that bullshit and I will burn you to the ground." It's called peer pressure, and it worked.

Is it a different culture nowadays? Perhaps to some degree it is, I'm not sure. But one thing remains constant, people hate the police...

Until they need them.
 
. Massey complied and poured the water down the sink, at which point the deputy pulled his weapons and gave commands for her to drop the pot. Miss Massey expressed confusion and declared "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus". Deputy Sean Grayson then threatened to "shoot her in the fucking face" and pointed his weapon at her. Massey coward in a ball in a corner, covering her face in her hands (pot still in hand). Grayson then unloaded 3 shots into her head, killing her on the spot.


"The prosecution likely felt confident about their case and was willing to go for an all-or-nothing verdict. But the defense did not want to take that chance, so they advocated for a lesser included charge," he told NBC News.

Grayson faces four to 20 years in prison for second-degree murder. Under state law, he would likely be eligible to get day-for-day credit for good behavior in prison, meaning he could end up serving only half his sentence.

If this is the same video online before, then she didn't pour the water down the sink.

Not that she should have been shot, but I think we should have the facts straight.
 
Here's the original thread


Glad to see the only person who was adamantly defending this is someone who caught a ban hammer and not seeing any regulars saying cop was in the right.
 
ah the inevitable labeling you morons love to engage in. intellectual laziness is your hallmark. making sweeping generalizations based on
a few isolated incidents, ones you probably don't even know the actual details of, media 'bootlicker' that you are.

you don't know 'the culture' truly unless you've lived the culture. we did plenty of self policing in my day because if some clown misbehaves,
guess what? I face potential trouble as well for being there. Numerous times I took someone aside and said, "You put my employment
at risk again with that bullshit and I will burn you to the ground." It's called peer pressure, and it worked.

Is it a different culture nowadays? Perhaps to some degree it is, I'm not sure. But one thing remains constant, people hate the police...

Until they need them.


You earn the hate. I didn't always hate cops. They earned it. Psychopaths and narcissists know they can bully, beat and have authority over people. They know they can get violent and even kill and get away with it.



This happened by my house. I heard it. The cop murdered this guy like he was Judge Dredd. He was allowed to claim he shot by accident.
 
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