Crime Cop who shot 36 y/o woman in her home found guilty of 2nd Degree Murder



Police always are understanding when a beloved family pet is dying. They never freak out and point guns at people.

Face it. Cops think they are at war with the citizens. They don't care even when they learn what's happening.
 


Where is the good cop that just asks her to leave him alone? She knows no law was broken and still can't help herself. Auditors are annoying, but ignore them and don't give them content.
 
Where is the good cop here? Where?

Nhhbear knows they never appear.


 
Hey, this cop got fired. Probably quit tho and got a job elsewhere.

 



Where is the good cop? Why didn't he step in and stop the illegal detainment?
 


Systemic corruption. Do you want to guess how many precients/departments/agencies conduct these kinds of practices and behaviors? False arrests, charges, asset forfeitures...its a big problem and you're obviously too biased to understand what I'm trying to say.


That video is your proof of systemic corruption? Law enforcement quotas are absolutely unconstitutional in my eyes and opinion. Very few departments are able to implement quotas without being dinged by the justice department for predatory practices and it is mostly little shit departments in tiny shithole towns for the purposes of revenue. I can’t stress enough how wrong that is and I have a little turd of a town just south of me that is a known speed trap with 1 or 2 officers notorious for that shit. In fact, many of my former officers would not go to back them up on traffic stops because it was such bullshit-but that is the rarity. The captain of the thp sounds like a real twat with the number of contacts and duis, but it certainly didn’t sound like he was telling officers to arrest sober drivers just those that were under the influence which is the law and saves lives. I wasn’t ever big on traffic stops in general and did duis when I came across them or there was a wreck, but if you drove drunk, fuck ya.

And the two “whistleblowers” were complete fuckups and I would bet a paycheck that the dude that fled the scene of the crash was dui because there is no other reason to flee a crash off duty. So fuck him and the female for trying to get a family member off of a dui is corruption and illegal and immoral. I don’t support any of that. Over half the states forbid any type of quotas by law-I would bet in the next ten years, it will go federal-as it should. It just needs a scotus case to bring it into the light.

Nypd used to have a min number of contacts with stop and frisk, which was ruled unconstitutional in 2013 thank goodness. The only time ever I instituted any type of stop and frisk was immediately after some shitbag took a shot at one of our officers and missed his head by inches and I was partly responsible. I used to train my officers and now, my college students in criminal justice, are hat as a police officer-any time there was a foot or car chase during the night-you always went over the path of the pursuit in the daylight. There was a foot chase through my beat on midnight shift and I was training a new officer and I showed him how to do it and we found over 100 grams of crack in the bushes right where the guy was caught. At that time, it was worth more than 10 k and one of the gang bosses in the area put out a hit on our officers and someone took a shot at a cruiser and hit the panel between the passenger front and back door right next to my old partners head. We got called out and I was the street supervisor as a corporal at that time and I ordered everyone in the streets to be patted down, but never did my department initiate some kind of quota or require officers to make arrests with the exception of violent felonies and domestic violence-which are the state laws and nationwide domestic laws based upon the smith mn model from the 70s.

So in some departments, unofficial quotas may exist, but this is the first incidence besides nypd of the early 2000s that I have heard of a large dept use some type of quotas like that-so in no way is it pervasive or widely in use. The only time I would argue that you would or should have to show some type of work results is when you work for a federal funding grant for safe streets or highway grants. The specific type of grant will specify what is an acceptable amount of stops and what the parameters are. I never worked a speed or dui grant because traffic stops were not my bag-getting violent offenders and gang members and drug dealers off the streets was where I thrived-so I only worked fed grants that involved that sort of stuff or I did op orders for my shift that highlighted what was to be targeted and how it was to be done for overtime. But if you accept grant funding as a department and don’t follow the stipulations it is considered fraud and the least issue there is no more funding but the department and officers can get into it if they are not doing stops and if you have ever been paying attention while driving, there are tons of violations everywhere at every time. An officer has to purposely avoid seeing this stuff because they are lazy or afraid to do any work-which I also despise laziness and cowardliness in law enforcement. If an officer is working a grant and pulls over a dui and doesn’t make an arrest-they are likely getting canned or the dept investigated by the Feds. And why should dui drivers not be prosecuted? My favorite and most informative Lt was killed by a wrong way dui driver in Florida 3 days after he retired while on vacation with his family. Luckily, he was driving by himself, it his family was in the vehicle behind him and his son, whom I trained in mma with, ran up to the car to see his father gurgling as the steering wheel had crushed his chest cavity in. The driver was on his sixth dui and the driver is finally still in prison at least for another 4 years u less the piece of shit gets out. But the court system let him slide for his other DUIs and it cost a friend his life.

So again, if you are expecting sympathy for people getting arrested for dui-look elsewhere. If you’re against quotas, so am I-but again, it is relatively few departments and the video you provided, while damnin for the capt, had two criminal cops as the whistleblowers so I have a lot of reservations believing what they say. And as a state highway patrol officer-basically, you’re primary duty is dealing with the highways and traffic control. That’s what you signed up for. In some states and in rural areas, sometimes the state police are the only law enforcement agency in the area, so they are responding to other calls. In my city, you almost never saw state police-ever. They sure as fuck didn’t come into the hood when we had a murder or shooting. I remember seeing some drive by while we were dealing with shit. The only time I ever remember them stepping up was when we had an attempted armed robbery at a pharmacy where some crackhead was aiming a gun at th clerk demanding opioids and the pharmacy manager pulled out a gun and shot him. As we were securing the scene and dealing with it, a state trooper pats on pulls up and orders the scene cleared and they were taking over. We were astonished and it was embarrassing and demeaning and he did it because he was trying to get promoted from what I heard and that was a big case.
 
Fucking lol @lifelessheap trying pathetically to turn this into a “cops r badd” thread. Just go to the anti cop circle jerk ya jagoff.
 
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Holy shit, they have footage of the cop shooting/killing the guy and he got 6 months wtf

And he literally lies on his radio after the fact and delayed reporting for 11 minutes but the DA says they can’t prove it was intentional
 
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Lol you're a joke dude



Wheres the ONE good cop that's trying to stop this from happening?


I have been called everything in the book and usually laughed. Filming is 100% first amendment and calling an officer names is also protected under first, yelling obscenities-depending on several conditions may not be. It depends on the jurisdiction, time, and whether the officer verbally warns the person to cease yelling or screaming obscenities. In most places, the officer has to warn you verbally to stop yelling or you can be arrested for disturbing the peace/disorderly conduct depending on the state you’re in. This is a short clip so there is not much information so it is not known whether they warned them beforehand or not, or what time it is or whether there are children nearby-obviously,
Screaming obscenities near a school with children nearby would not be long tolerated, but your cheap wish.com version of chris rock is incorrect that you can yell whatever you want without repercussions. But it is you who is the joke and you’re just a step shy of being as bad as lifeless sheep-god, what an apt name by posting stupid, irrelevant stuff and then saying “see, I told you all cops were bad based upon this one clip-I could find others too!” Fucking good for you and you’re a diary if you do-there are over half a million cops in the country responding to hundreds of thousands of incidents per day and almost as many officer initiated stops like traffic stops and stops based upon reasonable articulable suspicion-not that you would know what that means without looking it up first-but then again, you are an expert on all law enforcement based upon many years of experience. And in over 99% of those incidents-nothing out of the ordinary happens but occasionally, you find an officer that is an overly sensitive twat that encounters a citizen twat and shit happens. I have always said that a bad cop can do more damage to a community than ten criminals because of the power they hold and I take abuses seriously-but that’s what you respond with? “You’re a joke” and bargain store chris rock on a video?
 
One of nhbears fragile ego brothers from Canada.



Oh no... A finger


Ok, derail the thread with your stupid videos. You can go back to the original thread on this incident which I linked earlier in this thread and you can see who has been calling this shooting of Sandra Massey a crime since day one. Hell, I argued with one of the biggest twats in the history of sherdog @Joshuaace-pussy actually tapped out due to strikes during the original thread, lol. He was one of the most anti cop posters I have ever seen and claimed to be a defense attorney-yet he couldn’t argue his way out of a paper bag and he wanted bet our sherdog accounts over whether this officer would be charged or convicted of the crime. I was adamant that he would be found guilty-cited case law to the so called lawyer and he still claimed he was right. He lost his fucking mind in that thread-posted below for your viewing pleasure and also as proof that this whole incident had been argued correctly by me.

Your fucking obsession with finding bad cop videos is hilarious like posting some video of a cop in Canada has shit to do with this shooting. Again, take your bitch ass back to the bad cop circle jerk and take a load on your chest like a good boy


https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...ed-for-assistance-in-her-home.4337082/page-40
 
I have been called everything in the book and usually laughed. Filming is 100% first amendment and calling an officer names is also protected under first, yelling obscenities-depending on several conditions may not be. It depends on the jurisdiction, time, and whether the officer verbally warns the person to cease yelling or screaming obscenities. In most places, the officer has to warn you verbally to stop yelling or you can be arrested for disturbing the peace/disorderly conduct depending on the state you’re in. This is a short clip so there is not much information so it is not known whether they warned them beforehand or not, or what time it is or whether there are children nearby-obviously,
Screaming obscenities near a school with children nearby would not be long tolerated, but your cheap wish.com version of chris rock is incorrect that you can yell whatever you want without repercussions. But it is you who is the joke and you’re just a step shy of being as bad as lifeless sheep-god, what an apt name by posting stupid, irrelevant stuff and then saying “see, I told you all cops were bad based upon this one clip-I could find others too!” Fucking good for you and you’re a diary if you do-there are over half a million cops in the country responding to hundreds of thousands of incidents per day and almost as many officer initiated stops like traffic stops and stops based upon reasonable articulable suspicion-not that you would know what that means without looking it up first-but then again, you are an expert on all law enforcement based upon many years of experience. And in over 99% of those incidents-nothing out of the ordinary happens but occasionally, you find an officer that is an overly sensitive twat that encounters a citizen twat and shit happens. I have always said that a bad cop can do more damage to a community than ten criminals because of the power they hold and I take abuses seriously-but that’s what you respond with? “You’re a joke” and bargain store chris rock on a video?

You trying to rationalize that clip is hilarious. Face the facts. They were walking away until one or all of them got butthurt being called a bitch. And surely they all acted like one.

Where was the 1 good cop to say hey guys maybe we shouldn't do that because itll get laughed out of court and the city will lose money due to a lawsuit that will for sure be filed.

Thousands of examples like this.
 
That video is your proof of systemic corruption? Law enforcement quotas are absolutely unconstitutional in my eyes and opinion. Very few departments are able to implement quotas without being dinged by the justice department for predatory practices and it is mostly little shit departments in tiny shithole towns for the purposes of revenue. I can’t stress enough how wrong that is and I have a little turd of a town just south of me that is a known speed trap with 1 or 2 officers notorious for that shit. In fact, many of my former officers would not go to back them up on traffic stops because it was such bullshit-but that is the rarity. The captain of the thp sounds like a real twat with the number of contacts and duis, but it certainly didn’t sound like he was telling officers to arrest sober drivers just those that were under the influence which is the law and saves lives. I wasn’t ever big on traffic stops in general and did duis when I came across them or there was a wreck, but if you drove drunk, fuck ya.

And the two “whistleblowers” were complete fuckups and I would bet a paycheck that the dude that fled the scene of the crash was dui because there is no other reason to flee a crash off duty. So fuck him and the female for trying to get a family member off of a dui is corruption and illegal and immoral. I don’t support any of that. Over half the states forbid any type of quotas by law-I would bet in the next ten years, it will go federal-as it should. It just needs a scotus case to bring it into the light.

Nypd used to have a min number of contacts with stop and frisk, which was ruled unconstitutional in 2013 thank goodness. The only time ever I instituted any type of stop and frisk was immediately after some shitbag took a shot at one of our officers and missed his head by inches and I was partly responsible. I used to train my officers and now, my college students in criminal justice, are hat as a police officer-any time there was a foot or car chase during the night-you always went over the path of the pursuit in the daylight. There was a foot chase through my beat on midnight shift and I was training a new officer and I showed him how to do it and we found over 100 grams of crack in the bushes right where the guy was caught. At that time, it was worth more than 10 k and one of the gang bosses in the area put out a hit on our officers and someone took a shot at a cruiser and hit the panel between the passenger front and back door right next to my old partners head. We got called out and I was the street supervisor as a corporal at that time and I ordered everyone in the streets to be patted down, but never did my department initiate some kind of quota or require officers to make arrests with the exception of violent felonies and domestic violence-which are the state laws and nationwide domestic laws based upon the smith mn model from the 70s.

So in some departments, unofficial quotas may exist, but this is the first incidence besides nypd of the early 2000s that I have heard of a large dept use some type of quotas like that-so in no way is it pervasive or widely in use. The only time I would argue that you would or should have to show some type of work results is when you work for a federal funding grant for safe streets or highway grants. The specific type of grant will specify what is an acceptable amount of stops and what the parameters are. I never worked a speed or dui grant because traffic stops were not my bag-getting violent offenders and gang members and drug dealers off the streets was where I thrived-so I only worked fed grants that involved that sort of stuff or I did op orders for my shift that highlighted what was to be targeted and how it was to be done for overtime. But if you accept grant funding as a department and don’t follow the stipulations it is considered fraud and the least issue there is no more funding but the department and officers can get into it if they are not doing stops and if you have ever been paying attention while driving, there are tons of violations everywhere at every time. An officer has to purposely avoid seeing this stuff because they are lazy or afraid to do any work-which I also despise laziness and cowardliness in law enforcement. If an officer is working a grant and pulls over a dui and doesn’t make an arrest-they are likely getting canned or the dept investigated by the Feds. And why should dui drivers not be prosecuted? My favorite and most informative Lt was killed by a wrong way dui driver in Florida 3 days after he retired while on vacation with his family. Luckily, he was driving by himself, it his family was in the vehicle behind him and his son, whom I trained in mma with, ran up to the car to see his father gurgling as the steering wheel had crushed his chest cavity in. The driver was on his sixth dui and the driver is finally still in prison at least for another 4 years u less the piece of shit gets out. But the court system let him slide for his other DUIs and it cost a friend his life.

So again, if you are expecting sympathy for people getting arrested for dui-look elsewhere. If you’re against quotas, so am I-but again, it is relatively few departments and the video you provided, while damnin for the capt, had two criminal cops as the whistleblowers so I have a lot of reservations believing what they say. And as a state highway patrol officer-basically, you’re primary duty is dealing with the highways and traffic control. That’s what you signed up for. In some states and in rural areas, sometimes the state police are the only law enforcement agency in the area, so they are responding to other calls. In my city, you almost never saw state police-ever. They sure as fuck didn’t come into the hood when we had a murder or shooting. I remember seeing some drive by while we were dealing with shit. The only time I ever remember them stepping up was when we had an attempted armed robbery at a pharmacy where some crackhead was aiming a gun at th clerk demanding opioids and the pharmacy manager pulled out a gun and shot him. As we were securing the scene and dealing with it, a state trooper pats on pulls up and orders the scene cleared and they were taking over. We were astonished and it was embarrassing and demeaning and he did it because he was trying to get promoted from what I heard and that was a big case.

Lol










We can go all day long. Dont get me started on the bogus search and seizures for the intention of asset forfeitures...that's a long road you dont want to go down .
 
Fucking lol @lifelessheap trying pathetically to turn this into a “cops r badd” thread. Just go to the anti cop circle jerk ya jagoff.


I could post 1,000 videos a day proving your blue line gang has 99.99% NO ACCOUNTABILITY

Stop shilling for the gang
 
I don’t disagree that uvalde was a fucking failure and disgusted me to hell and back. But you’re wrong, just like some of the other twats claiming cops are trash. Cops will always need more training and should get a hell of a lot more of it. They need many more hours of defensive tactics and deescalation training for example, but you’re full of shit that good cops don’t put bad cops in check. No good cop wants to work with a piece of shit bad cop. The fact is that dirty cops don’t do their dirty in front of good cops. Sure, good cops might suspect bad cops of being corrupt, but suspicions are not enough to deal with it. I have been there. I have also reported excessive force on another officer, but the victim refused to cooperate when I informed my Lt of what the other officer did and the guy even told my Lt right in front of me that I was a fucking liar. Eventually, that piece of shit cop got his just desserts and was fired and charged with stalking a store clerk. He would go into her store when she was working and try and flirt with her. She repeatedly denied his advances and when he fancier her on the ass when she walked by, she filed a restraining order against him, which immediately got him suspended and his gun taken away. The next day, he showed up at her hpuse and demanded she rescind the order and she called the police and he was immediately arrested and fired on the spot. Fuck him and all dirty cops. Just because you post in a bad cops thread all the time doesn’t mean you know what you are talking about. And btw, that thread was started by me and was about a good and justified shooting of a piece of shit that shot someone and hid on a porch. When the cops found him, he jumped off the porch to run away and dropped his gun and tried to grab it. He was shot and killed and of course, per requirement, shitbags on social media said he was murdered. I studied the incident and the video and it was a justified shoot all the way and per scotus case TN v Garner, he was an immediate threat to the public and was justifiably shot while running away. A vindictive twat of a mod changed the thread title to a dirty cop thread, but it is now a circle jerk of anti cop people that cherry pick the few bad incidents that occur-and some that weren’t unjustified but they don’t know the laws and have never ever responded to anything remotely resembling a dangerous emergency where lives are at stake.
As for you assertion that cops don’t have to protect you and never do so, that is based upon two transit cops on nyc that stood by while a shitbag was trying to stab people on a subway train. A man fought off the attacker and they just fucking watched. Total disgraces. The guy sued and the scotus made a ruling that cops are not held responsible for someone being a victim of a crime. That does not mean when they see a crime in progress that they don’t have to act. It simply means that if a shitbag attacks you, cops are not responsible for you being a crime victim and not preventing it before it happens. I have railed against those transit cops before and they were cowards. But the timing is oft misunderstood.

As for “cops investigate themselves and found nothing wrong” that is of course, false. Any criminal conduct by an officer is investigated by another agency and usually by a grand jury to give an indictment. The only times cops “investigate” themselves is when it is an internal policy violation but not for criminal investigations. It has not been the case for police to investigate criminal accusations for quite some time, but it was cemented by Obama s 2016 commission on 21st century policing after the mike brown shooting, which was 100% justified because he attacked a police officer, Darren Wilson, who was still in his patrol car after brown robbed a store and used force on the store clerk. Of course, shitbags rioted and burned the city down, and the department was ultimately ruled predatory-which was correct based upon the department of justice investigation, but the shooting was ruled justified by the justice department:
Not attacking you on this point but what's your take on this?

 
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We can go all day long. Dont get me started on the bogus search and seizures for the intention of asset forfeitures...that's a long road you dont want to go down .



Bro, that DonutOperator guy on YouTube tried to rationalize the execution of Daniel Shaver. Laying on the ground begging for his life and his murderer draws a pension.
 
Where is the good cop Nhbbear?




They killed him and never tried to help. These are YOUR brothers.

Not one cop tried to do anything to save him.
 


Holy shit, they have footage of the cop shooting/killing the guy and he got 6 months wtf

And he literally lies on his radio after the fact and delayed reporting for 11 minutes but the DA says they can’t prove it was intentional


Damn. He straight-up tried to murder that man. The guy is a scumbag, as is the cop. There are no good guys in that story.
 
Where is the good cop Nhbbear?




They killed him and never tried to help. These are YOUR brothers.

Not one cop tried to do anything to save him.

Mate, I watch a TON of documentaries. Do you spend your life watching these videos just to post on a fisticuffs forum?
 
Here. It's pretty sad man. She playfully says "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus ", apologizes, balls up in fear, then gets murdered.

Dude's partner said he didn't see her as a threat but did see his partner as one



The partner said one thing then did another, dude has his gun out as well, and not saying it was murder out not, but the cop was tripping from the getgo, the lady seemed too far away to do damage with a pot, a case of FAFO on her part, and he also crossed the line by a mile.
 
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