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Not at all, if i had said the people had died, that immediately gives the impression that their LVH and death were somehow linked, especially as this is a thread about heart attacks etc.
hence i deliberately avoided making that reasoning or giving that impression.
Of course that can be deduced from the study. How they died (or in fact, if they even did die) is irrelevant.
The only point that I was raising from it was that half of them had LVH (And all were steroid users)
Thats a pertinant point. Are you suggesting that they got LVH from suicide?
Its kinda hard to find living people willing to be cut up and have their hearts examined. Its also quite difficult to find subjects to admit to steroid use. The fact the subjects were dead for whatever reason is largely irrelevant.
The point of the study was, do people with a history of steroid use have a higher chance of having LVH.. the answer to that is a clear yes, regardless of whether the test subjects are alive or dead.
Their death no way impacts the specific study on LVH
You are focussing way too much on the "death" thing.. you seem convinced that I am implying that they died as a result of steroid use. Im not implying or suggesting that at all.
Im suggesting, that its clear from that study, that the rate of LVH seems related to people with a history of steroid use.
Ha! No, I'm not suggesting that suicide or homicide cause LVH problems.
I do feel that 67% of these guys being on OTHER drugs is a massive factor. So the fact that 25% of them were in a suicide/homicide situation - Which speaks more to mental health and the very strong tie-in to other illegal drug use - which would be a likely culprit for LVH problems.
It's like saying, "This guy was on steroids and died of a heart attack!" while leaving out the part where he was on a lethal overdose of cocaine...