Opinion Conservatism will always be a threat to democracy

[Jack V Savage]

If everyone's going to complain about the two party system why not try out a one party system?

Also, what was his point there even supposed to be? If you say that rightists don't like democracy (which is true by definition), you want a one-party state? Huh?

 

[Jack V Savage]

You really are an imbecile if you think anyone is going to be fooled by your revisionist history gaslighting. Regardless of what Trump said, we all remember where the harshest lockdown measures were implemented: vaccine passports, mandatory masks, roping off non-essential aisles at the super market, etc.

It's interesting how someone so non-hackish and politically neutral is always blindly defending the GOP and throwing out childish personal attacks at anyone who disagrees with Republican talking points.

 

[Bojka]

You don't know what democracy is.

education systems are reforming due to moral order

Some of what is being taught in schools is pretty unpopular. About 2/3 of parents are against gender ideology and critical race theory being taught to K-12 students. But, if they say anything about it publicly, the frothing at the mouth leftists (including the media) try to make examples out of them. Getting rid of those things from grade school is consistent with democracy. School curriculums have been determined by academics from Universities and school boards without input from parents or the general public.

...January insurrection... January insurrection... Fear Mongering...

lol

 

[oldshadow]

Not really, todays Republican Party advocates for even bigger government than the Democratic Party

It's the direction that's the problem with the democrats.

 

[SKYNET]

Emergency measures to stop a pandemic aren't even relevant to a discussion about democracy or "totalitarian measures."

 

[Captain Tenneal]

Is this just a meaningless statement that you make to deflect any criticism of Trump? It's factually true that he said what I said he did (if you have any need of a source for any of it, let me know).

It's not a meaningless statement, You have TDS. It's a real condition brought on by years of the establishment media conditioning you.

"But you're fine with it because you don't actually care about freedom of speech and you're happy to lie as long as you think it helps your party because you don't have any sense of right and wrong."

You're exhausting me with this shit. The Republicans are not my party. They are an incompetent party full of willful losers. But to everyone who isnt a puppet of the left, we acknowledge the Democrats threaten freedom of speech more often. In rhetoric, in social media, and in actual policy when it comes to Europe. Luckily, we have the constitution here in America

 

[Mr Holmes]

It's interesting how someone so non-hackish and politically neutral is always blindly defending the GOP and throwing out childish personal attacks at anyone who disagrees with Republican talking points.

 

[payton]

It's interesting how someone so non-hackish and politically neutral is always blindly defending the GOP and throwing out childish personal attacks at anyone who disagrees with Republican talking points.

Wait.. I thought he was joking about being a centrist lol.

 

[UberHere]

You really are an imbecile if you think anyone is going to be fooled by your revisionist history gaslighting. Regardless of what Trump said, we all remember where the harshest lockdown measures were implemented: vaccine passports, mandatory masks, roping off non-essential aisles at the super market, etc.

Yup he’s a god damn liar.

 

[Captain Tenneal]

Trump has talked about loosening libel laws so he can sue the media more easily and in fact does attempt to sue the media often to intimidate them into retracting negative stories about him. Thankfully it never works because we have strong speech protections but I would say that guy is a significant threat to freedom of speech no?

It isn't good*, I was part of the cohort that blasted him for this

 

[Islam Imamate]

Your TDS is unreal. I don't defend Trump's rhetoric. He states off the wall shit all the time that I disagree with. But that doesn't define what everyone on the right thinks or feels about free speech. Two examples doesn't outweigh years of the left restricting free speech, or the kind of shit they were pulling during covid. When you quote me, I already know you're going to bring up Donald Trump. It's like clockwork lol

As for the charity, I was stating it was blown out of proportion- because it was, and stated it wasn't a grift. Nobody that rich grifts through a charity for that low of an amount of money. There no point for him to "grift" in that way. But I still criticized him for it, you can't be sloppy when managing charity money. And you espicially shouldn't setup golf competitions with charity money already donated

He's the unquestioned leader of the party who absolutely dominated his primaries without attending a single debate and you're going to act like he's not representative of the party?

It is, I was part of the cohort that blasted him for this

Of course you'll still vote for him despite his threat to freedom of speech.

Has the leader of the Dems ever said or done anything like that? Can you recall Biden suing the media for publishing things he doesn't like?

 

[payton]

You don't know what democracy is.

You are dickriding an insurrectionist while talking about democracy.. the duality of man.

 

[oldshadow]

First we are a republic not a strick democracy for a very good reason.

However you want to talk about a threat or a promise to fuck up America here it is.

"Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Walz branched out from Kamala Harris' campaign's position Tuesday when he called for the end of the Electoral College.

"I think all of us know, the Electoral College needs to go. We need a national popular vote," he said at a California fundraiser."

 

[Islam Imamate]

First we are a republic not a strick democracy for a very good reason.

We are a democratic republic, these two things are not mutually exclusive.

However you want to talk about a threat or a promise to fuck up America here it is.

"Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Walz branched out from Kamala Harris' campaign's position Tuesday when he called for the end of the Electoral College.

"I think all of us know, the Electoral College needs to go. We need a national popular vote," he said at a California fundraiser."

How is that a threat to democracy?

 

[ChosenOne]

You really are an imbecile if you think anyone is going to be fooled by your revisionist history gaslighting. Regardless of what Trump said, we all remember where the harshest lockdown measures were implemented: vaccine passports, mandatory masks, roping off non-essential aisles at the super market, etc.

Awww so you go from saying it was "bullshit Trump and his admin" were pushing shutdowns and other covid measures on the States, when I PROVE YOU WRONG...

To now switching to saying i am an imbecile if instead i do not move the goal posts and instead consider which States imposed the "harshest" lockdowns.

Nice try.

By making it a contest of 'who was harshest' you ADMIT your stupidity and that you were wrong as that is an admission that Florida and other Red States DID CEDE to the Trump and his admin pressure to lock down.

All you are arguing now is that Dem States did it longer. That Trump and his Admin, got Dem States to follow his Admins guidance longer.

What you DID NOT do is convince anyone of your lie that it was not Trump and his Admin pushing it ...as IT WAS. FACT.

 

[Spam On Rye]

So you're a rape apologist and a christo facisit? Color me not surprised.

You're stuck in the dialectic bro. Turn off the phone and get help.

 

[Bojka]

You are dickriding an insurrectionist while talking about democracy.. the duality of man.

Trump wasn't even in my top 2 of who I would've picked for the Republican nominee.

I think that the January riots were mostly caused by the rioters learning from left wingers over previous months that rioting is just something you do when you don't get your way. Yes Trump egged them on and that's largely why he was far from my top pick. He's still better than the left.

 

[ChosenOne]

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Mr Holmes changing argument:

Mr Holmes : Bullshit Trump and his Admin did not push covid measures on the States. Dem States pushed it.

Me : Here is proof Trump and his admin pushed it. You can read Trumps words and the cited LOCKDOWN legal document i posted that DeSantis and Florida put in place.

Mr Holmes : Ok, sure Florida did follow Trump and his Admin guidelines. But they did so for LESS time than Dem States so that means i can say 'they never did and they never followed Trump and his Admin'.


^^^^ I hope everyone reads the above and understands the gaslighting and lying Mr Holmes does. Arguing 'they did it for a shorted period of time = them not doing it'.

 

[oldshadow]

We are a democratic republic, these two things are not mutually exclusive.

How is that a threat to democracy?

It's a threat to the form of government the founding fathers knew and were proven to be the best.

A strick democracy is a shit government and ruin the US it maybe would actually cause a civil war.

 

[Islam Imamate]

It's a threat to the form of government the founding fathers knew and were proven to be the best.

A strick democracy is a shit government and ruin the US I maybe would actually cause a civil war.

We also didn't have universal suffrage or elected Senators at the time of the Founding Fathers, do you think those reforms were a threat to the government of the Founding Fathers knew or were those okay?