News *** Conor McGregor Found Civilly Liable for 2018 Sexual Assault MEGA THREAD ***

[krelianx]

I mean, yeah, I suppose most situations will appear as a 'he said she said,' as long as you continue doing your best impression of an ostrich by keeping your dumbass head buried in the dirt. And like you said, people are only proven guilty in the court of law, except the court of law is incredibly fallible, so then you can pretend people aren't guilty even after that. I guess it all just depends on who you want to make excuses of innocence for.

Possibility comes cheap.

Maybe we are all living in a simulation and our actions are actually orchestrated and determined by the will of architect-aliens. Perhaps free will is an illusion and a deterministic universe simply entails whatever happened had to happen. Maybe Nikita Hand did in fact consent to have a tampon encrusted up her vagina and getting battered up since people have very odd fetishes on this Earth. Maybe she inflicted all these injuries onto herself! Or maybe she asked her boyfriend to beat her up and have violent sex with her, with a condom so his DNA wouldn't interfere with Conor's.

So many possibilities...

 

[dogsdonutsdragons]

I mean, yeah, I suppose most situations will appear as a 'he said she said,' as long as you continue doing your best impression of an ostrich by keeping your dumbass head buried in the dirt. And like you said, people are only proven guilty in the court of law, except the court of law is incredibly fallible, so then you can pretend people aren't guilty even after that. I guess it all just depends on who you want to make excuses of innocence for.

nothing is very conclusive and its better to take the opinion that you dont know. seen to many innocent people "proven" guilty.

 

[Ares Black]

nothing is very conclusive

Not conclusive, but it is convincing

and its better to take the opinion that you dont know.

No, it isn't

In this case there is a choice between two stories. One is plausible. The other is not.

Saying you don't know is just a lazy way of avoiding having to make a decision about which person is lying.

Do I know for a fact that Conor McGregor assaulted Nikita Hand. No, I do not. But it seems very, very likely that he did.

seen to many innocent people "proven" guilty.

Have you though?

 

[oscerthegrouch]

question why wasn't its criminal trial then? Here in the US Civil means jack shit... because the Burden of proof is none existent.. VS Criminal cases.. i havent followed the case but i know in Civil trial he said she said enough.. which is crazy

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

nothing is very conclusive and its better to take the opinion that you dont know. seen to many innocent people "proven" guilty.

Feeling unsure is one thing, but to describe a situation as a "he said, she said" when the "she said" includes multiple medical testimonies seems purposefully misleading, and appeals to false equivalence

Like this dope

question why wasn't its criminal trial then? Here in the US Civil means jack shit... because the Burden of proof is none existent.. VS Criminal cases.. i havent followed the case but i know in Civil trial he said she said enough.. which is crazy

it's not non existent, it just goes from "no reasoble doubt that it happened" to "is it more reasonable that it happened" and the court for that it was more likely it did

 

[dogsdonutsdragons]

Not conclusive, but it is convincing

No, it isn't

In this case there is a choice between two stories. One is plausible. The other is not.

Saying you don't know is just a lazy way of avoiding having to make a decision about which person is lying.

Do I know for a fact that Conor McGregor assaulted Nikita Hand. No, I do not. But it seems very, very likely that he did.

Have you though?

i personally did jury duty a few times and in the end i did not feel confident in any decision but people were and it seemed like they just based it off personal bias based on how the guy looked and talked. i at least without very clear evidence in these cases just don't believe it to be true or false.

 

[krelianx]

i personally did jury duty a few times and in the end i did not feel confident in any decision but people were and it seemed like they just based it off personal bias based on how the guy looked and talked. i at least without very clear evidence in these cases just don't believe it to be true or false.

Except this case is not particularly ambiguous. There is simply no good explanation as to how Nikita Hand sustained those injuries other than being battered and raped.

What plausible alternative explanation is there?

 

[GoshiShun17]

You diluted and distorted what happened by calling it "freaky threesome sex". There was no threesome, and she was battered, badly injured. So for you to even describe the situation in those terms shows you are a dimwitted bigot.

Did I say "freaky threesome sex" anywhere in my post? You must be conflating my post with someone else's

 

[krelianx]

Did I say "freaky threesome sex" anywhere in my post?

You responded to

Woman has consensual freaky threesome with rich people while intoxicated. After sobering up, she realizes she can get a lot of cash out of the situation and exploits the system. Sad times.

By saying "This is what it seems like".

Now, maybe it's my really wild imagination running wild, but when people say "that is what it seems like" it is an expression of agreement with what the statement that that refers to.

But maybe it's just my warped understanding of language.

 

[Neck&Neck]

 

[JPOMMA]

I’m going to buy up a case so I can flip it on eBay to some Conor stans when the brand goes defunct

Smartest guy in the room

 

[JPOMMA]

Is it me or Hand and her bf look like a Temu version of Dee and McG?

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Dunno if this has been posted yet in reference to the supposed CCTV footage of them kissing

Debunked: CCTV footage shared online does not show Nikita Hand on night of sexual assault

The video shows grainy footage of a man and a woman with a date given as 14 December 2018.

www.thejournal.ie

 

[lsa]

question why wasn't its criminal trial then? Here in the US Civil means jack shit... because the Burden of proof is none existent.. VS Criminal cases.. i havent followed the case but i know in Civil trial he said she said enough.. which is crazy

based on the evidence it should have been.
Back when it happened a lot of us was baffled when it did not.

Also rape is one of the hardest crimes to prove in this case we have DNA, EMTs and doctors testifying for the victim.

There is a case in Sweden, a guy just got out of jail.
Dude is one of the worst serial rapists in Swedish history IIRC.
Dude was accused of sexual assault / rape of 24 (yes 24) women, but only got done for 5 rapes. He got 5 years...

He got out a little while ago even though the higher ups in the prison warned that he has been misbehaving the whole time and he is dangerous.
He still got released..

A few weeks after the take off the ankle monitor he rapes a teen girl and are now back in custody..

What I am saying is rape cases are not always taken seriously.
24 rapes only go downs for 5 and only gets 5 years prison time...
Then rapes as soon as its possible for him when released.
And this is in Sweden where if you put your finger in a girls vayay without consent its rape / sexual assault.

Is it hard to believe a famous guy with money and connection manage to kill a potential trial, in a country where it seems to be notorious (pun intended) hard to get to trial for rape?

 

[Mind Mine]

based on the evidence it should have been.
Back when it happened a lot of us was baffled when it did not.

Also rape is one of the hardest crimes to prove in this case we have DNA, EMTs and doctors testifying for the victim.

There is a case in Sweden, a guy just got out of jail.
Dude is one of the worst serial rapists in Swedish history IIRC.
Dude was accused of sexual assault / rape of 24 (yes 24) women, but only got done for 5 rapes. He got 5 years...

He got out a little while ago even though the higher ups in the prison warned that he has been misbehaving the whole time and he is dangerous.
He still got released..

A few weeks after the take off the ankle monitor he rapes a teen girl and are now back in custody..

What I am saying is rape cases are not always taken seriously.
24 rapes only go downs for 5 and only gets 5 years prison time...
Then rapes as soon as its possible for him when released.
And this is in Sweden where if you put your finger in a girls vayay without consent its rape / sexual assault.

Is it hard to believe a famous guy with money and connection manage to kill a potential trial, in a country where it seems to be notorious (pun intended) hard to get to trial for rape?

It didn’t go to criminal trial because Conor’s friend claimed to have had sex after him. Mind you there is zero proof of it

 

[DrRodentia]

It's funny how even it when it comes to Conor, where there are billowing clouds of smoke for years, there are people out there still adamantly claiming there isn't fire.

 

[Mind Mine]

I just dont spend my life crying and being emotional about people who clearly dont deserve it when there are actual people who are victims and are being taken advantage of, none of that was present in this case, i think you might be a bit too serious instead of being a sherdog lawyer

Who are these people that actually deserve it you give your precious concern to. Please do tell

 

[SpamuraiSensei]

I know, but despite common sense, there were still people who called her a gold digger or suggested it was about money. I shared that article which went further into detail about how dumb such claims are for them.

That's only one guys opinion and it leaves out an important element. We don't know if Conor ever offered to reach a settlement with her.
But, we do know a settlement would have made headlines too.

 

[Ares Black]

Dunno if this has been posted yet in reference to the supposed CCTV footage of them kissing

Debunked: CCTV footage shared online does not show Nikita Hand on night of sexual assault

The video shows grainy footage of a man and a woman with a date given as 14 December 2018.

www.thejournal.ie

What a scumbag loser move

 

[TITS]

based on the evidence it should have been.
Back when it happened a lot of us was baffled when it did not.

Also rape is one of the hardest crimes to prove in this case we have DNA, EMTs and doctors testifying for the victim.

There is a case in Sweden, a guy just got out of jail.
Dude is one of the worst serial rapists in Swedish history IIRC.
Dude was accused of sexual assault / rape of 24 (yes 24) women, but only got done for 5 rapes. He got 5 years...

He got out a little while ago even though the higher ups in the prison warned that he has been misbehaving the whole time and he is dangerous.
He still got released..

A few weeks after the take off the ankle monitor he rapes a teen girl and are now back in custody..

What I am saying is rape cases are not always taken seriously.
24 rapes only go downs for 5 and only gets 5 years prison time...
Then rapes as soon as its possible for him when released.
And this is in Sweden where if you put your finger in a girls vayay without consent its rape / sexual assault.

Is it hard to believe a famous guy with money and connection manage to kill a potential trial, in a country where it seems to be notorious (pun intended) hard to get to trial for rape?

Are you Swedish?