Colby Covington is still radio silent

[Mayonnaiseandjelly]

Colby has a manicured career where he has avoided elite fighters in their prime (outside of usman where he got his jaw broken and knocked out).

 

[goOb]

Man if these two could have only fought in the cage or something to see who the better fighter is... Oh wait. We only have Jorge to thank for this mess.

 

[Reffson]

His case against Masvidal just so happened to occur at the perfect time for him to sit out and avoid the top contenders. I don't believe it. Like everything else with Colby, take it with a grain of salt. The dude is full of crap.

Bullshit. Every word.

 

[Iroh]

You don't seem like a troll, though.
You know the guys that I'm talking about.

That said, I was super impressed by him the second time he fought Usman.
It was one of the first times he looked like he was fighting for a finish.
That's a guy I'd tune in to watch.

I'm not a troll. But I am fan of most fighters, save guys like Joe Son, Hermes Franca, War Machine, and with less inhibition fighters who are serial eye pokers. Meaning I have been part of fanbases of some of the most hated fighters like Conor's, Ronda's, Izzy's, Paddy's, O'Malley's, Askren's, Masvidal's (he is hated a lot recently), Tito's, Colby's, Weidman's because he beat people's favorite fighter lol, Brock's, you get the point. But having been part of those fansbases, you notice that people take extremes of the fanbases, because they are the loudest and some do actually believe fighters they are fan of, are invincible, but many are just having fun with the confidence the fighter is showing and going along with it as a form of hyperbole, especially with someone like Conor or Colby. But they don't actually believe he is unbeatable, but they probably do think be is capable of great things and see a possibility for the fighter to keep improving if they make the right decisions. But it"s more fun to post "Head clean off!", sometimes, than to give a long ass nuanced take on what you exactly think of Conor, or who ever the fighter in question, and why you are a fan. Also, because trolls/haters will try to start shit with fans of much hated fighters, and have to deal with the emotional assumptions and projections the haters will force on them. This is not exclusive to much hated fighters though. All fighters are hated, so it's what happens with every fandom to a degree. But the degree of hate and the degree of polarisation will influence the dynamics a lot. But having talked to a lot of fans from all fanbases, I know that the generalisations are never accurate.

 

[jitzmonkey]

I'm not a troll. But I am fan of most fighters, save guys like Joe Son, Hermes Franca, War Machine, and with less inhibition fighters who are serial eye pokers. Meaning I have been part of fanbases of some of the most hated fighters like Conor's, Ronda's, Izzy's, Paddy's, O'Malley's, Askren's, Masvidal's is hated a lot recently, Tito's, Colby's, Weidman's because he beat people's favorite fighter lol, Brock's, you get the point. But having been part of those fansbases, you notice that people take extremes of the fanbases, because they are the loudest and some do actually believe fighters they are fan of, are invincible, but many are just having fun with the confidence the fighter is showing and going along with it as a form of hyperbole, especially with someone like Conor or Colby. But they don't actually believe he is unbeatable, but they probably do think be is capable of great things and see a possibility for the fighter to keep improving if they make the right decisions. But it"s more fun to post "Head clean off!", sometimes, than to give a long ass nuanced take on what you exactly think of Conor, or who ever the fighter in question, and why you are a fan. Also, because trolls/haters will try to start shit with fans of much hated fighters, and have to deal with the emotional assumptions and projections the haters will force on them. This is not exclusive to much hated fighters though. All fighters are hated, so it's what happens with every fandom to a degree. But the degree of hate and the degree of polarisation will influence the dynamics a lot. But having talked to a lot of fans from all fanbases, I know that the generalisations are never accurate.

Right, I'm specifically referring to the types of Colby fans who insisted that he was winning the first fight on the scorecards (which of course we know was categorically false) until the "early" stoppage.
Those are the fans who will go through mental gymnastics to validate any/every thing that a fighter says/does; and explain why said fighter is the real champ or winner of a fight that was clearly lost.

They're either trolls, or what the kids call "simps."

 

[Reffson]

Right, I'm specifically referring to the types of Colby fans who insisted that he was winning the first fight on the scorecards (which of course we know was categorically false) until the "early" stoppage.
Those are the fans who will go through mental gymnastics to validate any/every thing that a fighter says/does; and explain why said fighter is the real champ or winner of a fight that was clearly lost.

They're either trolls, or what the kids call "simps."

He wasn't winning on the cards but he did hurt Usman with a legit strike, and Usman got time off by faking groin injury. Regardless, people can hate on his personality all they want, but those who can't separate his personality from his fighting ability (and his career) are missing part of their brain. Kinda like the guy sitting in the White House Colby tried to warn you about.

 

[Iroh]

Right, I'm specifically referring to the types of Colby fans who insisted that he was winning the first fight on the scorecards (which of course we know was categorically false) until the "early" stoppage.

Maybe it's not a type of fan, but varying individuals with varying stances on how they view the way they think the fight should have been scored. Maybe they have some solid reasoning, or maybe they are plainly mistaking and perhaps lacking understanding of what they are speaking of. But that doesn't automatically equate to thinking Colby is unbeatable. Though like I said, there are always guys that actually believe that, but in my experience never that many. And for there to be an aura, there needs to be a more common public shared perception, than the occasional guy that goes way overboard with his fanatic beliefs. At least if you want to make the generalisation towards a fandom, instead containing it to just some fringe fanatics.

Those are the fans who will go through mental gymnastics to validate any/every thing that a fighter says/does; and explain why said fighter is the real champ or winner of a fight that was clearly lost.

Maybe you should try to remember the exact people who said that (not trying to give you shit here). Normally I would say just tag them, If you were a thread starter about this kind of subject. But I don't think there is a need for that now. But I'd say that because if you can actually address the people you are talking about, then they can defend their positions and people can judge whether they are clearly wrong as you state, or maybe that they do have a good point, that you might have failed to recognize or even ask for. Because a lot of the time people don't actually try to fully understand someone, in order to not misinterpret what they are saying, but instead become combative with them simply because they strongly disagree with them. But if they might have tried to truly understand what that person is saying and where he is coming from, then they very likely would have a completely different idea of what that person thinks about the subject, than when you are just trying to prove them wrong. But asking questions is not particularly a popular habbit on SD. People rather judge first then ask questions, instead of ask questions first and then judge

They're either trolls, or what the kids call "simps."

Trolls sometimes. I don't really think simp is accurate, but kids do misuse that word in that manner.

 

[HaulParris]

He's off to write his hit song "Alone In My Principles"

 

[jitzmonkey]

Maybe it's not a type of fan, but varying individuals with varying stances on how they view the way they think the fight should have been scored. Maybe they have some solid reasoning, or maybe they are plainly mistaking and perhaps lacking understanding of what they are speaking of. But that doesn't automatically equate to thinking Colby is unbeatable. Though like I said, there are always guys that actually believe that, but in my experience never that many. And for there to be an aura, there needs to be a more common public shared perception, than the occasional guy that goes way overboard with his fanatic beliefs. At least if you want to make the generalisation towards a fandom, instead containing it to just some fringe fanatics.




Maybe you should try to remember the exact people who said that (not trying to give you shit here). Normally I would say just tag them, If you were a thread starter about this kind of subject. But I don't think there is a need for that now. But I'd say that because if you can actually address the people you are talking about, then they can defend their positions and people can judge whether they are clearly wrong as you state, or maybe that they do have a good point, that you might have failed to recognize or even ask for. Because a lot of the time people don't actually try to fully understand someone, in order to not misinterpret what they are saying, but instead become combative with them simply because they strongly disagree with them. But if they might have tried to truly understand what that person is saying and where he is coming from, then they very likely would have a completely different idea of what that person thinks about the subject, than when you are just trying to prove them wrong. But asking questions is not particularly a popular habbit on SD. People rather judge first then ask questions, instead of ask questions first and then judge



Trolls sometimes. I don't really think simp is accurate, but kids do misuse that word in that manner.

*Re scorecards: Maybe you haven't seen those sorts of posts. I'm referring to specific language definitively stating that Colby was up 3-1 (instead of being dead even.) If the language was ambiguous or indicative of expressing an opinion, then that wouldn't be an issue regarding one's ability to intelligently converse with said individuals.

It's not only on Sherdog, though.
And I'm not really interested in arguing with silly people who don't have strong foundation in reality.
Engaging in that sort of behavior would make this forum significantly less enjoyable for me.

Anyway, those type of 'fans' that I'm talking about typically come out of the woodwork then their fighter is scheduled to fight, stick around in MMA comment sections with their foolishness.

People's inability to ask or frankly answer (in many cases) questions on social media is a bit disheartening.
Too many times we end up with people stating their opinions almost completely disconnected from any sort off rational/reasonable discourse.

*Again, (as you said) it's not just Colby fans. Like you said, there are a lot of fighters who have fans like that.

 

[jitzmonkey]

He wasn't winning on the cards but he did hurt Usman with a legit strike, and Usman got time off by faking groin injury. Regardless, people can hate on his personality all they want, but those who can't separate his personality from his fighting ability (and his career) are missing part of their brain. Kinda like the guy sitting in the White House Colby tried to warn you about.

Well, Usman said that it grazed his cup.
Colby has alluded to the fact that he's only playing a character, which might disincline one to take him seriously.

And what did he try to warn me about?

 

[Iroh]

*Re scorecards: Maybe you haven't seen those sorts of posts. I'm referring to specific language definitively stating that Colby was up 3-1 (instead of being dead even.) If the language was ambiguous or indicative of expressing an opinion, then that wouldn't be an issue regarding one's ability to intelligently converse with said individuals.

It's not only on Sherdog, though.
And I'm not really interested in arguing with silly people who don't have strong foundation in reality.
Engaging in that sort of behavior would make this forum significantly less enjoyable for me.

Anyway, those type of 'fans' that I'm talking about typically come out of the woodwork then their fighter is scheduled to fight, stick around in MMA comment sections with their foolishness.

People's inability to ask or frankly answer (in many cases) questions on social media is a bit disheartening.
Too many times we end up with people stating their opinions almost completely disconnected from any sort off rational/reasonable discourse.

*Again, (as you said) it's not just Colby fans. Like you said, there are a lot of fighters who have fans like that.

Bud, the point was; are these people an accurate representation of the fandom? Are these type of fans actually a type of fan? Or are they just people that are wrong for whatever reason, and they happen to be fans. If they are actually a type of fan with multiple reoccuring characteristics that unites the type, then is that type prevelent enough to factor in the impact when Colby gets given the option of a tough fight with the POSSIBILITY and higher LIKELIHOOD of failure for Colby, so that those particular fans could be disillusioned with Colby enough that it'd have an impact on Colby's decision making when considering a fight. Or is it just the occasional delusional fan that meets those erroneous way of viewing that fight and potentially other fights of his, mixed in with other 'regular' fans that don't necessarily have those same ideas, or more accurately put the idea of Colby being (nye) invincible. But will show sinilar Colby supporting posts as the fan who does think he is (nye) invincible, by which the impression might get made that there actually is a type or trend within that fandom who thinks he is (nye) invinvible, but in reality it might be an relatively insignificant amoulnt of people, to firstly base a generalisation on and secondly assume that they are in any way making big enough waves to influence Colby's career choices

Like I said twice before, there are definitely people who believe the wildest things, and I have seen it. So no need to convince me they exist, or suggest I might not have seen them. But maybe the relevance of them gets a bit blown out of proportion due to emotion, namely annoyance, triggered by the fighter and/or their general fanbase. Because that is what happens all of the time when people complain about fans of a fighter

Also, personally, I don't really get the problem. If people clearly and factually are wrong about the fighter they are a fan of, then it should be easy to argue them if you stick to those facts that they are wrong by, and not go to perhaps personal attacks towards them because they annoy you. The latter is what happens a lot on SD. Not everybody has the same amount of knowledge and experience. If you are wrong about something you thought you were right about (this all is definitely not directed personally to you, bud. Speaking in general) you would appreciate a person convincing you with solid, in this case, fact based arguments that you were wrong and enlighten you to what the reality is, instead of being called stupid, a simp, moron, nuthugger, etc. Which is what happens most of the time on here. And I think that really is unfair to a lot of fans that simply don't know enough about the sport and may be relatively new to the sport. I think people therefor create this stereotype of a fan, so it's easier to shit on the person, because that stereorype consists of all kinds df negative elements you convinced yourself that you're so much above, that it's used to justify casually shitting on the fans of a fighter or on the fighter him/herself, instead of showing underatanding and perhaps help them with their ignorance. It's the same pattern with any kind of negative stereorype, be it race based, nationality based, gender based, politics based, etc.

Damn, I've been really going in with the walls of text.

 

[Laheys'Liquorland]

No communication from him whatsoever, no interviews or anything.

How much money does he think he's going to get from good ole' Jorge? 100 mil? Seems like he's undermining his own career to stay mum for this legal case.

Or maybe he's just waiting until Khamzat fights so he doesn't have to face him, or he's waiting for the title to change hands, and doesn't want to face a top contender.

Or maybe he figures, the title is out of reach, no super fights for $$$ are available, so he might as well milk this legal case to steal as much money from Jorge as possible.

What do you guys believe his thought process to be?

Too busy banging the bang energy chick's bro.

 

[modulus]

Dude's going to court - not always wise to talk a bunch of smack pretrial

 

[jitzmonkey]

Too busy banging the bang energy chick's bro.

He's gay?
Shit, no idea. That's a big deal, though.

 

[fg1985bg]

Right, I'm specifically referring to the types of Colby fans who insisted that he was winning the first fight on the scorecards (which of course we know was categorically false) until the "early" stoppage.
Those are the fans who will go through mental gymnastics to validate any/every thing that a fighter says/does; and explain why said fighter is the real champ or winner of a fight that was clearly lost.

They're either trolls, or what the kids call "simps."

Um….

I think a legit case can be made for Usman being that best fighter in the sport at the moment. That being said, I had Colby winning the first fight 3-1 going into thr last round and also had him winning that round until…he wasn’t. The stoppage could have gone either way. Didn’t have a problem with it being stopped and would have been fine with the fight going on.

I’m not going to deny that I’m a Colby fan. But there were a ton of fans who thought Colby was winning that first fight. Kind of silly to just dismiss all of them. It was a razor close fight that could have been scored either way until the end.

As for the second fight…I had no issue with Usman winning. That 10-8 round won it for him…but I feel it was another close fight and the closest fights by far that Usman has been in.

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

He’s getting old and it’s been shown he isn’t champ material. Try to get a good settlement and wait around for a money fight or two. If unable to get one, retire.

Avoid Khamzat and Shavkat at all costs.

End of thread

 

[Captain Herb]

I'd donate $100 to Masvidal if he can tie this up in the courts just to keep his mouth shut.

 

[jitzmonkey]

Um….

I think a legit case can be made for Usman being that best fighter in the sport at the moment. That being said, I had Colby winning the first fight 3-1 going into thr last round and also had him winning that round until…he wasn’t. The stoppage could have gone either way. Didn’t have a problem with it being stopped and would have been fine with the fight going on.

I’m not going to deny that I’m a Colby fan. But there were a ton of fans who thought Colby was winning that first fight. Kind of silly to just dismiss all of them. It was a razor close fight that could have been scored either way until the end.

As for the second fight…I had no issue with Usman winning. That 10-8 round won it for him…but I feel it was another close fight and the closest fights by far that Usman has been in.

Right, you had him winning. Frankly, I had it even, but believe that all 3 judges' scores were more than reasonable.

The point I'm making is that there was verifiable evidence that the fight was dead even 1-1-1(last one is a tie.)

I'm just simply talking about fans that advocate for Colby winning the fight had he somehow lasted until the bell when the (realistic) most logical scenario was him losing a majority decision since there's no way that the last round wouldn't have reasonably been a 10-8.

Even if he'd somehow been gifted 9 points in R5, you end up with a split decision 47-48, 49-46, 48-47.


Colby fought like a champion in his 2nd fight with Usman. He looked like he was actually trying to earn a stoppage.
That's the guy who I'd like to see fight.
Absolutely Wild!

 

[StonedLemur]

Here's what I don't get.
How in the blue fuck is he gonna prove he has brain damage from the couple of punches he took from Masvidal when he fights for a living?

Does he think the courts don't have access to the fights in the cage he has had?
So he's gonna say "yes your honor, I have taken 1000 shots to the head in my career, but the 2-5 I took from Masvidal gave me brain damage"?

I doubt anyone buys that bullshit.

Then he wastes his money making opportunities in the cage because he wants to avoid the tough guys coming up?

Makes zero sense to be honest.

 

[Dorkman]

Why do people still ask about this with people involved in an on going court case? It's basically the first thing every lawyer tells any figure(especially a public one) about addressing their case before it's conclusion. Which is "Don't say anything to the media". As the more you talk out of pocket, the more likely you are to say something that could potentially hurt your case. If Colby is smart he won't say a peep about the incident and Jorge until the hearing is complete.