Elections Clinton vs. Trump Polls thread, v2

[EL CORINTHIAN]

My opinion isn't a highly refined one but what i have noticed online is that in most polls regarding Trump usually always swings in his favor. But then you see the polls on TV and it doesn't reflect any of that at all. Don't ask what me what im referring to exactly as i haven't catalogued any of it but im just noticing that public opinion online (when your name isn't at risk) is a lot different than it is in the actual public.

 

[Quipling]

My opinion isn't a highly refined one but what i have noticed online is that in most polls regarding Trump usually always swings in his favor. But then you see the polls on TV and it doesn't reflect any of that at all. Don't ask what me what im referring to exactly as i haven't catalogued any of it but im just noticing that public opinion online (when your name isn't at risk) is a lot different than it is in the actual public.

Just ask President Ron Paul.

 

[Makani]

This suggestion has been around since he started campaigning. It's never turned out to be true. Even while he was winning the nomination, the "silent supporters" just never materialized.

Every time it comes up, I assume it's a planted story to offset potential loss of support by reassuring people that they are not alone in supporting him. If too many on the fence voters think they're alone in their Trump support, they might not come out to vote. This gives them something to believe in.

This would be my guess as well. A running theme among Trump supporters seems to be that they think a ton of people agree with them but are too afraid to speak their minds. Honestly, I think there may be varying degrees of truth to that depending on the issue, but I don't think it will manifest as significant gains for Trump.

 

[DannyNL]

Trump is gonna win... I can feel it!

 

[snakedafunky]

I dont think it will be a significant number.
What I think will happen that gets trump more votes than what the polls suggest now is that Clinton wont be able to hide all the way to the elections.
Wen people have to see more of her and she actually has to answer questions, they remember how much they hate her. But I still dont think it will be enough for Trump to win.

 

[Blackened]

Actually, for every 1 percent increase in college degrees amongst a population, Trump loses .65% of the vote. It's not just the kids in college that won't vote for him.

He wasn't kidding about loving the poorly educated...

Yeah, bunch of people with bullshit social sciences degrees voting Hillary.

The psychologist that thinks gender is a choice is voting for Hillary, whodathought?

Let's remember, most people with college degrees have bullshit degrees. Most college educated people are not exactly the intellectual elite. Those of us with STEM backgrounds are a little more 50/50 because our education isn't full of propaganda.

 

[superpunch]

Possibly. I'd never admit at work that I support Trump because it could lead to me getting fired. I work in a restaurant and the customers think you're a racist, the kitchen (90% hispanic) thinks you're a racist = no bueno.

 

[badascan]

The game is rigged, it wouldn't matter.

 

[TheComebackKid]

Yup, Same here...

I don't volunteer that info...I keep it short, "I'm definitely not voting hillary" and I leave it at that.

I would seriously lose friends if I told them I was voting trump.

It's getting real out here lol. You might get shot for supporting Trump in the wrong neighborhood.

 

[Space]

How depressing that "Republican nominee up in Arizona" is worth mentioning.

It's a sad day for Hillary fans. She's dropping like a sack of hot garbage in the polls.

 

[Sycho Sid]

It's a sad day for Hillary fans. She's dropping like a sack of hot garbage in the polls.

You just gotta believe hard enough.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

It's a sad day for Hillary fans. She's dropping like a sack of hot garbage in the polls.

Nope, but does it really matter at this point? With all of Chumps flip flopping his policies are starting to look very liberal now especially when it comes to muslims and immigration. Beginning to look more and more like a dem plant to me

 

[liljoe]

Yeah, bunch of people with bullshit social sciences degrees voting Hillary.

The psychologist that thinks gender is a choice is voting for Hillary, whodathought?

Let's remember, most people with college degrees have bullshit degrees. Most college educated people are not exactly the intellectual elite. Those of us with STEM backgrounds are a little more 50/50 because our education isn't full of propaganda.

Huh? I would say the majority of STEM graduates are on the liberal side. Maybe engineering has the more even breakdown, but computer science, medicine, life sciences, physics etc. Are 60-70% democrats.

 

[Handsomebwonderfull]

Nope, but does it really matter at this point? With all of Chumps flip flopping his policies are starting to look very liberal now especially when it comes to muslims and immigration. Beginning to look more and more like a dem plant to me

I think he is a democrat. He's old, it's in his bucket list, so he decided to run and keeps running for fun and to make money free ad time wise. Dudes 70 and now has built an empire because his running. For the next 20 years everyone will know The Trump Name

 

[Handsomebwonderfull]

Huh? I would say the majority of STEM graduates are on the liberal side. Maybe engineering has the more even breakdown, but computer science, medicine, life sciences, physics etc. Are 60-70% democrats.

Pretty much if you are dealing with biology in your field you are a democrat but a pragmatic one. I'll see if I can find the article about it. The whole evolution thing lol

 

[Blackened]

Huh? I would say the majority of STEM graduates are on the liberal side. Maybe engineering has the more even breakdown, but computer science, medicine, life sciences, physics etc. Are 60-70% democrats.

Meh, like I said, we are closer to 50-50, with engineers being much more conservative. Sure people in academia are more liberal (I wonder where they get their pay checks from?), but the more "hard science" a person studies the more apt to have conservative tendencies from my experience (those outside of academia). The more psychology and sociology bullshit, the more apt someone is to be liberal. This is mainly because the 'science' is more politically influenced. For example, LGBT advocates lobbying to have 'gender dysphoria' removed from DSM. No amount of lobbying will get rid of Maxwell's equations. Know why? Because it's real science. They are true regardless of your feelings.

Engineers tend to view themselves as much less liberal and slightly more conservative than the general public, according to a recent survey of over 1,200 readers of MACHINE DESIGN and Electronic Design magazines. The same survey also found that engineers say they are more likely to be Republican (42.1%) or Independent (33.7%) voters, as opposed to Democrats (14.5%). And although over a third of the engineers think Republicans represent the best interests of the engineering community better than Democrats, a majority of engineers (48.1%) believe neither party is really on the side of engineers.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...-conservative-than-general.html#ixzz4IJaJCTVg

 

[Blackened]

Pretty much if you are dealing with biology in your field you are a democrat but a pragmatic one. I'll see if I can find the article about it. The whole evolution thing lol

Yeah, we really fucked ourselves with that creationism bullshit. I was a liberal when it was a big topic though.

 

[ncordless]

My opinion isn't a highly refined one but what i have noticed online is that in most polls regarding Trump usually always swings in his favor. But then you see the polls on TV and it doesn't reflect any of that at all. Don't ask what me what im referring to exactly as i haven't catalogued any of it but im just noticing that public opinion online (when your name isn't at risk) is a lot different than it is in the actual public.

It is almost as if the people who do polls on line skew alt-right as compared to the population at large.

 

[Son of Jamin]

It's not something that constantly happens. There was a time last year when there was article upon article about that party going well over the 20% mark in polls, which you can compare to the 12.9% they got in the election.

Polls were clearly off about them before the election, but that's happen with parties before (FP in their biggest election to name one example), and while the party we're talking about isn't liked in popular media, or by other parties, they are of course also playing hard on the victim role because of this. We can just look at the various scandals around the environmental party in fairly recent times to see that media can certainly focus a lot on negative issues with parties on the left as well. You can only imagine what would happen in media if any of the established parties had scandals like the iron pipe incident (or frequent racism scandals in general), so the victim role is exaggerated.

And I didn't vote for any party I've mentioned either.

I sort of agree with you. But it's obvious that media have treated them poorly compared to other parties.

Even mainstream media acknowledged that Mp had escaped much scrutiny of the years and when the scandals kept raining down hard on them, the ship collapsed because their representatives weren't used to handle the bombardment from media.

 

[Squarechoke]

I sort of agree with you. But it's obvious that media have treated them poorly compared to other parties.

Even mainstream media acknowledged that Mp had escaped much scrutiny of the years and when the scandals kept raining down hard on them, the ship collapsed because their representatives weren't used to handle the bombardment from media.

Yes, but I think the difference mainly lies in opinion pieces, not so much in actual reporting. As much as media has gone on with their racism scandals the effects of such would have been larger with any other established party, although more because those voters would probably care more than the SD voters apparently did, rather than media bias.