Elections Clinton vs Trump Polls thread (Clinton's Bounce Larger than Trump's)

Prediction on Win Margin for Election Night (Electoral College)


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According to Gallup, Trump is the first candidate in 30+ years to not get any sort of convention bump. Fucking LOL


Gallup Poll Finds Trump's Convention Is A Historic Dud


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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/convention-first-less-likely-vote-trump
Not a good sign for Donald
 
We don't. Clinton's win over Sanders was so heavily pushed by the DNC who did everything in their power to insure that Sanders was not the nominee.

Also If it were an actual democracy than we would all admit that Trump and Shillary would be the two most credible people for the most important job in the United States out of 318 MILLION people.

This has turned into a social media circus act, and the people's opinion has become so manipulated and easily swayed that control over the elections is all but a certainty through marketing, tweets, news...movies...television. It's ridiculous.

Take Obama for instance. Their is NO FUCKING WAY that the current president should openly shit all over one of the candidates. I mean I get it...Trump is scary. But he's trying to openly SWAY public opinion by shitting on Trump.

How is that not trying to manipulate the vote?

That's complete and utter bullshit.


Trump is the biggest threat to globalism right now and the globalists and corporate brought media are doing everything in their power to make sure he loses.
 
Trump is the biggest threat to globalism right now and the globalists and corporate brought media are doing everything in their power to make sure he loses.

It's actually insane to watch when you know what you're seeing. The media is systematically attempting to destroy Trump. And alot of Hillary supporters know this but they cheer it on anyway.

Hopefully enough shills can see through this come November but I'm not feeling confident.
 
It's actually insane to watch when you know what you're seeing. The media is systematically attempting to destroy Trump. And alot of Hillary supporters know this but they cheer it on anyway.

Hopefully enough shills can see through this come November but I'm not feeling confident.

The media reporting on what Trump says is not them trying to destroy him. Trump is doing that on his own.
 
The media reporting on what Trump says is not them trying to destroy him. Trump is doing that on his own.

Nope, sorry. The media, along with the political and corporate power structure, is 150% in the tank for Hillary and there is no disputing it. Spin all you want.
 
Nope, sorry. The media, along with the political and corporate power structure, is 150% in the tank for Hillary and there is no disputing it. Spin all you want.

I don't know what is worse. That you could be so dishonest to write that, or that you don't understand how percentages work.
 
Just look at the Patricia Smith and Khan stories. Patricia Smith has been screaming from the top of her lungs for years at this point that Hillary lied to her face about her sons death. Hillary responds with "well, I understand if in your state of grief you don't recall the conversation entirely". Hardly a peep from the media.

Trump makes a comment about Khan's wife not being allowed to speak and its wall to wall coverage with Khan doing interviews non stop.

If Trump was accused of lying to a gold star mom it would be in every headline for about a week.
 
I don't know what is worse. That you could be so dishonest to write that, or that you don't understand how percentages work.

The fact that you are pretending the media is not on a witch hunt after Trump in order to help Hillary get elected shows that you are either being dishonest, manipulated, or simply not paying attention.

You're not a dumb guy so I'm leaning toward dishonesty.
 
The fact that you are pretending the media is not on a witch hunt after Trump in order to help Hillary get elected shows that you are either being dishonest, manipulated, or simply not paying attention.

You're not a dumb guy so I'm leaning toward dishonesty.

Explain to me where this witch hunt is. I see the media reporting on what Trump says, and then analysis it and get reactions from others, from both sides of the fence. It's Trump that is saying stupid things, not the media.

Just look at the Patricia Smith and Khan stories. Patricia Smith has been screaming from the top of her lungs for years at this point that Hillary lied to her face about her sons death. Hillary responds with "well, I understand if in your state of grief you don't recall the conversation entirely". Hardly a peep from the media.

Trump makes a comment about Khan's wife not being allowed to speak and its wall to wall coverage with Khan doing interviews non stop.

If Trump was accused of lying to a gold star mom it would be in every headline for about a week.

If you don't see a difference in how Clinton and Trump handled these two situations you're an idiot. Clinton did not attack Smith the way Trump attacked Khan's wife. Big difference.
 
Explain to me where this witch hunt is. I see the media reporting on what Trump says, and then analysis it and get reactions from others, from both sides of the fence. It's Trump that is saying stupid things, not the media.

Do you acknowledge that the media has power to create and drive narratives?

If you don't see a difference in how Clinton and Trump handled these two situations you're an idiot. Clinton did not attack Smith the way Trump attacked Khan's wife. Big difference.

What Hillary did was worse...she lied to Patricia Smith's face.

And she is the one responsible for putting Khan's son in harms way to begin with.

If it were Trump that lied to Smith then you would see her all over the MSM just like you see Khan.
 
Do you acknowledge that the media has power to create and drive narratives?

Yes, to a certain point.

Now would you like to explain were the witch hunt is?



What Hillary did was worse...she lied to Patricia Smith's face.

And she is the one responsible for putting Khan's son in harms way to begin with.

If it were Trump that lied to Smith then you would see her all over the MSM just like you see Khan.

You mean in the media the way it was right after Benghazi? You are comparing media coverage now for one issue that happened years ago, with one that happened days ago.

Also, Clinton was not the commander and chief so saying she is responsible for putting Khan's son in harms way is a lie.
 
Yes, to a certain point.

Now would you like to explain were the witch hunt is?

It is in the narratives they relentlessly push, often complete non-stories. As well as the narratives they don't push...which are often complete bombshells.

You mean in the media the way it was right after Benghazi? You are comparing media coverage now for one issue that happened years ago, with one that happened days ago.

The media is completely ignoring her and her story. I believe that is by designed. You are welcome to believe, or pretend to believe, that it is not.

Also, Clinton was not the commander and chief so saying she is responsible for putting Khan's son in harms way is a lie.

She is not solely responsible but she is partly responsible for voting for it.

Hillary is partly responsible for both Patricia Smith and Khizir Khans' son being killed. Yet outrage is all centered around Trump lol.
 
It is in the narratives they relentlessly push, often complete non-stories. As well as the narratives they don't push...which are often complete bombshells.

Complete bombshells? Perhaps to those who see revelations of things that are already pretty much known as bombshells. For most people it's not news. Of course you are simply ignoring that fact that Trump is the one that continues to say things that are ridiculous and then they get reported on.


The media is completely ignoring her and her story. I believe that is by designed. You are welcome to believe, or pretend to believe, that it is not.

They did not ignore it, it was covered already.



She is not solely responsible but she is partly responsible for voting for it.

Hillary is partly responsible for both Patricia Smith and Khizir Khans' son being killed. Yet outrage is all centered around Trump lol.

A vote that many, including many in the GOP, also took.

Yes, the outrage is on Trump because of what he said. That is not hard to understand why...if you are honest.
 
Explain to me where this witch hunt is. I see the media reporting on what Trump says, and then analysis it and get reactions from others, from both sides of the fence. It's Trump that is saying stupid things, not the media.



If you don't see a difference in how Clinton and Trump handled these two situations you're an idiot. Clinton did not attack Smith the way Trump attacked Khan's wife. Big difference.

Come on. Well before Trump unwisely took the bait the media was plastering the Khan story everywhere while they ignored Smith
 
Complete bombshells? Perhaps to those who see revelations of things that are already pretty much known as bombshells. For most people it's not news. Of course you are simply ignoring that fact that Trump is the one that continues to say things that are ridiculous and then they get reported on.




They did not ignore it, it was covered already.





A vote that many, including many in the GOP, also took.

Yes, the outrage is on Trump because of what he said. That is not hard to understand why...if you are honest.

Well there's no reason for us to argue about it. I stand by my previous statement. If you don't see the gross media bias toward Hillary and against Trump then you are being either dishonest, manipulated, or not paying attention. I accept that we won't agree with this and its alright.
 
Come on. Well before Trump unwisely took the bait the media was plastering the Khan story everywhere while the ignored Smith

The Media did cover the Smith story when it happened. That the thing it is an old story.

How was the media plastering the Khan story around well before Trump made is comment on Twitter?
 
Well there's no reason for us to argue about it. I stand by my previous statement. If you don't see the gross media bias toward Hillary and against Trump then you are being either dishonest, manipulated, or not paying attention. I accept that we won't agree with this and its alright.

Yes, continue to belief that the candidate you support is losing because of the media, and not because he is simply losing. Whatever lets you sleep at night.
 
The Media did cover the Smith story when it happened. That the thing it is an old story.

How was the media plastering the Khan story around well before Trump made is comment on Twitter?

The headlines were all over the internet (yahoo, googlenews, etc) up front and center. It was all over network news. Smith barely got a peep while the omedia was gushing over Khan.

If you can't see the difference you purposely stuck your head in the sand
 
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