Elections Clinton vs Trump Polls thread (Clinton's Bounce Larger than Trump's)

Prediction on Win Margin for Election Night (Electoral College)

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Hans Gruber said:
No.

Look at the Wikileaks thread.

How is the Khan story that is plastered everywhere more important than swaying an election or media collusion?
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It's a joke.

The masses are easily led. I don't even think we live in a democracy anymore.
 
Hans Gruber said:
You are delusional if you think that they are treated equally in the media.
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Or maybe I don't have a white supremacist distorted lens? You're the one with the confirmation bias.
Look at the Khan story vs the Patricia Smith story (even before Trump made some idiotic comments about the Khans).
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You mean the story that's trending on Facebook for the past three days vs. the story that got its own freaking Hollywood blockbuster, a dozen SNL skits, and a thousand cover stories over the past two years?

Patricia Smith is a foil to Mary J. Stevens, and they got equal coverage from where I was sitting.
Look how Wikileaks got buried after a day or two and the narrative started focusing on the Russians (and a BS conspiracy theory connection to Trump) instead of the content


Most of the content was ignored. There were plenty of headline sin that content that were dismissed.
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That's because the Wikileaks brought jack shit to the table.
It is fine that you are in camp Hillary. everyone has a right to their opinion but pretending that the media isn't glaringly biased is a joke.
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I don't require your permission for any political opinion, nor are you as a nuthog rider extraordinaire and dogmatically conservative parrot without an individualistic thought in your head in a position to accuse anyone else of being blinded by bias.

You're buried 6 points deep, and that's rising each day Trump opens his dumb fucking mouth, and there isn't another major terrorist attack. Tough shit, boy. That's got to be a fucked up bind to be in: sitting there with your fingers crossed that more innocent masses are slaughtered just so people will realize you're "right". I'm sure it doesn't bother you.
 
Madmick said:
Or maybe I don't have a white supremacist distorted lens? You're the one with the confirmation bias.

I don't require your permission for any political opinion, nor are you as a nuthog rider extraordinaire and dogmatically conservative parrot without an individualist thought in your head get to accuse anyone else of being blinded by bias.

You're buried 6 points deep, and that's rising each day Trump opens his dumb fucking mouth, and there isn't another major terrorist attack.

That's got to be a fucked up bind to be in: sitting there with your fingers crossed that more innocent masses are slaughtered just so people will realize you're "right". I'm sure it doesn't bother you.
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That is complete bullshit. Especially the underlined part.

My post got you that upset that you have to accuse me of wanting people to die.

Ridiculous Mr Mod.

Reported (and told you to ban yourself for this baseless garbage) A white supremacist? Get a hold of yourself
 
Hans Gruber said:
That is complete bullshit. Especially the underlined part.

My post got you that upset that you have to accuse me of wanting people to die.

Ridiculous Mr Mod.

Reported
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LOL, #gottento. That shit ain't even close to what you're alleging, nor to being an infraction, and it never has.

Don't fucking trollwar with me, lightweight.
 
Goonerview said:
It's a joke.

The masses are easily led. I don't even think we live in a democracy anymore.
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We don't. Clinton's win over Sanders was so heavily pushed by the DNC who did everything in their power to insure that Sanders was not the nominee.

Also If it were an actual democracy than we would all admit that Trump and Shillary would be the two most credible people for the most important job in the United States out of 318 MILLION people.

This has turned into a social media circus act, and the people's opinion has become so manipulated and easily swayed that control over the elections is all but a certainty through marketing, tweets, news...movies...television. It's ridiculous.

Take Obama for instance. Their is NO FUCKING WAY that the current president should openly shit all over one of the candidates. I mean I get it...Trump is scary. But he's trying to openly SWAY public opinion by shitting on Trump.

How is that not trying to manipulate the vote?

That's complete and utter bullshit.
 
BVG said:
We don't. Clinton's win over Sanders was so heavily pushed by the DNC who did everything in their power to insure that Sanders was not the nominee.

Also If it were an actual democracy than we would all admit that Trump and Shillary would be the two most credible people for the most important job in the United States out of 318 MILLION people.

This has turned into a social media circus act, and the people's opinion has become so manipulated and easily swayed that control over the elections is all but a certainty through marketing, tweets, news...movies...television. It's ridiculous.

Take Obama for instance. Their is NO FUCKING WAY that the current president should openly shit all over one of the candidates. I mean I get it...Trump is scary. But he's trying to openly SWAY public opinion by shitting on Trump.

How is that not trying to manipulate the vote?

That's complete and utter bullshit.
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I'm telling you, the days leading up to the EU referendum, the amount of scare mongering and politicians openly telling us what to do was insane.

I'm a proud Brexit voter. Proud my country was able to see through their lies.

If America can't see it and votes Hillary, they deserve everything they get.
 
Madmick said:
LOL, #gottento. That shit ain't even close to what you're alleging, nor to being an infraction, and it never has.

Don't fucking trollwar with me, lightweight.
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I am the one gotten to? You are the one who had to attack and pull out baseless accusations.

I am not trolling. I reported you to yourself as a joke but calling me a white supremacist and claiming that I want people to die is garbage and you know it.

Show me one post that I made that would ever lead you to that conclusion.

You say I am a blind Trump follower when I have criticized plenty of things that he has done (including calling his comments about the Gold Star parents stupid)

I wanted Kasich or Rubio to win but I would take a wild card over more of the same.
 
Hans Gruber said:
I am the one gotten to? You are the one who had to attack and pull out baseless accusations.

I am not trolling. I reported you to yourself as a joke but calling me a white supremacist and claiming that I want people to die is garbage and you know it.

Show me one post that I made that would ever lead you to that conclusion.

You say I am a blind Trump follower when I have criticized plenty of things that he has done (including calling his comments about the Gold Star parents stupid)

I wanted Kasich or Rubio to win but I would take a wild card over more of the same.
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Oh, piss off. You cast me as "delusional" and implied my inability to perceive "media bias" by disagreeing with you is only because I'm in "camp Hillary" (which doesn't make any sense for someone in "camp Trump" to allege). YOU made this personal. You introduced that element in a transparent attempt to exert authority over the narrative.

Don't throw acid if you can't handle the burn.
 
Madmick said:
Oh, piss off. You cast me as "delusional" and implied I have an inability to perceive "media bias" by agreeing with you is only because I'm in "camp Hillary" (which doesn't make any sense for someone in "camp Trump" to allege). YOU made this personal. You introduced that element in a transparent attempt to exert authority over the narrative.

Don't throw acid if you can't handle the burn.
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I made this personal because I disagree with you about media bias?

Damn...you take things worse than Trump does.

I call you delusional if you can't see media bias and you return by saying that I am a white supremacist and I want people to die in attacks. Sounds reasonable.

Handle what burn? Someone ranting and raving and accusing me of pure garbage?
 
BVG said:
We don't. Clinton's win over Sanders was so heavily pushed by the DNC who did everything in their power to insure that Sanders was not the nominee.

Also If it were an actual democracy than we would all admit that Trump and Shillary would be the two most credible people for the most important job in the United States out of 318 MILLION people.

This has turned into a social media circus act, and the people's opinion has become so manipulated and easily swayed that control over the elections is all but a certainty through marketing, tweets, news...movies...television. It's ridiculous.

Take Obama for instance. Their is NO FUCKING WAY that the current president should openly shit all over one of the candidates. I mean I get it...Trump is scary. But he's trying to openly SWAY public opinion by shitting on Trump.

How is that not trying to manipulate the vote?

That's complete and utter bullshit.
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In any democracy people argue and try and sway others to their point of view. This is not underhanded, or manipulation. Trying to get people to vote for them and/or their party and ideas is exactly how democracy works. If people are so easily swayed that this seems like a problem, then it is a problem with the people. Of course the truth is people are not easily swayed. This is just the argument of someone that can't understand how others would hold different views.
 
Goonerview said:
I'm telling you, the days leading up to the EU referendum, the amount of scare mongering and politicians openly telling us what to do was insane.

I'm a proud Brexit voter. Proud my country was able to see through their lies.

If America can't see it and votes Hillary, they deserve everything they get.
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Amen brother!
 
According to Gallup, Trump is the first candidate in 30+ years to not get any sort of convention bump. Fucking LOL


Gallup Poll Finds Trump's Convention Is A Historic Dud


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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/convention-first-less-likely-vote-trump
 
Madmick said:
Oh, piss off. You cast me as "delusional" and implied my inability to perceive "media bias" by disagreeing with you is only because I'm in "camp Hillary" (which doesn't make any sense for someone in "camp Trump" to allege). YOU made this personal. You introduced that element in a transparent attempt to exert authority over the narrative.

Don't throw acid if you can't handle the burn.
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Hans Gruber said:
I made this personal because I disagree with you about media bias?

Damn...you take things worse than Trump does.

I call you delusional if you can't see media bias and you return by saying that I am a white supremacist and I want people to die in attacks. Sounds reasonable.

Handle what burn? Someone ranting and raving and accusing me of pure garbage?
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Just bleed! I've got it 19-19 coming into the third. Which one of you has enough wad to blow in the last?
 
I just saw that Trump refused to endorse Ryan. Ryan hasnt endorsed Trump and has criticized him for some of his recent comments. Does anybody think that Ryan is just waiting to see if he gets re-elected before he goes off on Trump?
 
Couple more cracks in Trumps armor and it will be like rats on a sinking ship
 
JosephDredd said:
The media is just spinning the zero so it looks worse than it is.

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But Hillary!
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Funny thing is he got a real bump, took a real lead, and it suddenly just friggin' evaporated like it never happened. That seems tough to pull off.
 
Fawlty said:
Funny thing is he got a real bump, took a real lead, and it suddenly just friggin' evaporated like it never happened. That seems tough to pull off.
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Yeah. Trump is something else.
 
Its almost like his convention bounce went into chapter 11.
 
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