Elections Clinton vs Trump Polls thread (Clinton's Bounce Larger than Trump's)

[Joe]

new cbs poll has clinton up by 7 points but another interesting number is trump getting 64% support of self identified conservatives. that is an awful number. romney, mccain, bush all had them higher than 80 or around 80.

 

[Madmick]

Election Update: Clinton’s Bounce Appears Bigger Than Trump's

Initial polls conducted after the Democratic National Convention suggest that Hillary Clinton has received a convention bounce. In fact, it appears likely that Clinton’s bounce will exceed Donald Trump’s, which measured at 3 to 4 percentage points. Thus, Clinton will potentially exit the conventions in a stronger position than she entered them, perhaps also making up for some of the ground she lost to Trump earlier in July.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Guest brings up extremely valid point about how Trump is changing the outlook of the Republicanew party by wanting to punish American companies for moving out of the country and Mahr responds with 'yeah well he wanted to punish women for getting abortions"

What a complete and utter fucking tool bag.

The point of my video was Cornell West showing how arrogant, tone deaf, and team oriented the DNC is. This is another golden opportunity to bring the country together - similar to the 2000 election, and 9/11 (not nearly as profound as that, but...), which Bush f'd up. Rather than put forth a quality politician, the DNC bashes Bernie and pushes one of the most reviled politicians of all time, whilst alienating the Sander's crowd, the Trump independents and regular conservatives.

 

[Fawlty]

If you look at the numbers, she hasn't moved up at all, trump's numbers are going back down.

Not true according to the RCP graph. Trump's support has fallen slightly more than Hillary's has increased though.

 

[TheStruggle]

Not true according to the RCP graph. Trump's support has fallen slightly more than Hillary's has increased though.

According to the graph, Clinton has increased by 0.2% while Trump fell by 3.1%

 

[Fawlty]

According to the graph, Clinton has increased by 0.2% while Trump fell by 3.1%

Maybe we're not looking at the same thing. Here's the current 14-day RCP average. Measured from her high point following the RNC, yeah that's .2%.

 

[TheStruggle]

Maybe we're not looking at the same thing. Here's the current 14-day RCP average. Measured from her high point following the RNC, yeah that's .2%.

I meant to say from last week, which was the start of the DNC

 

[Fawlty]

I meant to say from last week, which was the start of the DNC

Cool that makes sense.

 

[K1levelgrappler]

Can't Bump the Trump

 

[Cygnus A]

Trump makes it a point almost daily to demonstrate why he is not fit to be president.

 

[K1levelgrappler]

Pretty good day for HRC in the polls

She's up to +4 on RCP average and 60% on 538. I don't think all the Khan stuff has filtered down yet either.

 

[Joe]

the thing about trump is that he keeps putting his foot in his mouth creating new shit to bring him down. by the time the debates come along they might not even help. if he even does them. it will be interesting who abandons ship among the house and senate republicans.

 

[Madmick]

I meant to say from last week, which was the start of the DNC

Cool that makes sense.

It makes sense only if you ignore that you're comparing Trump's pre-convention polling against his post-convention bump vs. Clinton's post-Trump bump vs. her post-convention bump. Apples and oranges.

Makes more sense to compare their respective pre-convention polling (as in both conventions) vs. their post-convention polling from their respective polls. This measures the effectiveness of punch-counterpunch.

Silver does that in the article I mentioned. Hillary is going to storm back to her June peaks, and maybe transcend them if he can't shut his mouth about Russian hackers, American Muslim soldiers, abortion, and how he was never interested in the Koch brother money because he is, like, deeply principled about money and would never take their dough.

 

[Culombo]

msm doing a fine job of promoting this khan plant and completely ignoring the wikileaks .. I can see trump going down a bit but hc should be going way down if things were properly reported .. she has everyone backing her .. it's really disgusting watching the 'news' on tv .. I'll probably end up just bypassing it altogether and looking for the real news on the internet

 

[Fawlty]

It makes sense only if you ignore that you're comparing Trump's pre-convention polling against his post-convention bump vs. Clinton's post-Trump bump vs. her post-convention bump. Apples and oranges.

Makes more sense to compare their respective pre-convention polling (as in both conventions) vs. their post-convention polling from their respective polls. This measures the effectiveness of punch-counterpunch.

Silver does that in the article I mentioned. Hillary is going to storm back to her June peaks, and maybe transcend them if he can't shut his mouth about Russian hackers, American Muslim soldiers, abortion, and how he was never interested in the Koch brother money because he is, like, deeply principled about money and would never take their dough.

Agreed, I just didn't know what he was comparing there. Hillary's numbers have to go up from here simply because Trump's prior rising polls will fall off the average, Hillary's bump should drive her way up, and then her numbers should settle down a little in a couple weeks.

And right on time, she's about +3 and rising.

 

[Fawlty]

msm doing a fine job of promoting this khan plant and completely ignoring the wikileaks .. I can see trump going down a bit but hc should be going way down if things were properly reported .. she has everyone backing her .. it's really disgusting watching the 'news' on tv .. I'll probably end up just bypassing it altogether and looking for the real news on the internet

The wikileaks came and went dude. Fact is, it wasn't quite as scandalous as it was made out to be. Very rude and vicious toward Bernie, but completely typical of inside party politics. In that context, it really wasn't bad, and people realize there wasn't actually a raging inferno in those leaks. That's not to say that future strategic leaks won't have crazy shit in them. If they do, it will affect the polls.

The comments by Trump toward Khan were shameful- even his own party says so. Kasich and McCain are reaming him publicly. It wasn't good. And the fire marshal thing. And those coming on top of this stupid ass Putin bromance. Trump is looking terrible right now, no hiding it, no spinning it.

 

[K1levelgrappler]

msm doing a fine job of promoting this khan plant and completely ignoring the wikileaks .. I can see trump going down a bit but hc should be going way down if things were properly reported .. she has everyone backing her .. it's really disgusting watching the 'news' on tv .. I'll probably end up just bypassing it altogether and looking for the real news on the internet

Fuck off.

Trump is a thin-skinned baby and he stepped in this one all by himself. Manafort needs to drop the hammer and revoke his twitter privileges before it's too late.

 

[K1levelgrappler]

I don't expect HRC to win Georgia but the fact that it's even a possibility is hilarious.

 

[Fawlty]

Wow, first Missouri and now Georgia are in play. This is kind of nuts. They both shifted red a bit in '12. Only to about 53%, but still.

 

[TheComebackKid]

This election is eye opening. Watching liberals and democrats completely besmirch themselves in such a way that can be amusing one day and sad the next. These people have sacrificed all of their liberal tenets and morals all in an effort to stop Trump.

Think about it. They've embraced corporatism and money in politics. Remember when everyone was making fun of Trump for not having any wall street money? Remember when they used to care about wall street dominating elections? Well good news folks, not anymore! In 2016 they embrace the biggest wall street shill in presidential history.

They have embraced corruption full fledge. Remember when Hillary got caught building a PRIVATE SERVER in her basement and failed to turn over 30,000+ emails in a clear effort to prevent transparency and avoid the Freedom of Information Act? Remember when the DNC got caught red handed rigging the primary, colluding with the media, and planning racial and religious attacks on their own candidates? No? Well good because libs don't either.

They have embraced violence and mistreatment against women. Remember when it became clear that Bill Cos-, I mean Clinton, was a serial sexual abuser and womanizer? Remember when Hillary smeared, defamed, and denied justice to a 12 year girl who had been brutally raped all in an effort to protect the rapist...she knew was guilty?

It's kind of scary man...libs are selling their souls this election.