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And then nothing. Although the Catholic position has changed over the years, you are simply mistaken about early church teachings.
No, I explained the teachings that existed for centuries. Yet people want to pretend there’s only one interpretation of Jesus teachings. It’s nonsense.
 
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Besides, romans 9 says god makes some vessels of glory and others for destruction and it’s his choice. Maybe that little aborted fetus was one of those vessels of wrath Paul was telling us about.
 
No, I explained the teachings that existed for centuries. Yet people want to pretend there’s only one interpretation of Jesus teachings. It’s nonsense.

No, you explained the views from 1200 - 1800 vhanged and pretended that those were always the views of the Church.

I'm more interested in 1st century views if I want claim God/Jesus approved of x. I don't really care what some 12th century pope thought if the idea is to know the mind of God.
 
No, you explained the views from 1200 - 1800 vhanged and pretended that those were always the views of the Church.

I'm more interested in 1st century views if I want claim God/Jesus approved of x. I don't really care what some 12th century pope thought if the idea is to know the mind of God.
I never said they were always the view of the church. I said they were the view of the church for at least centuries.

And you care what current / modern popes think so don’t try to argue you are strictly interpreting scripture and early teachings.

There was no church consensus in the first century.
 
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