Social Canadian UHC - Woman waits 6 years for Knee Replacement - Get leg amputated Instead

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

"The review is now complete and did not identify any specific actions, absence of actions, quality of care concerns, or systems issues that directly or indirectly contributed to the two deaths,"

They investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing!

 

[gatchaman]

They investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing!

Surgeons bury their mistakes. The solution would be cameras in the operating rooms, but how many more Canadians would languish on waiting lists to make way for the cameras? It is the balance between timely service and effective gatekeeping that I alluded to earlier.

 

[Poon Goon]

I saw a video of a Canadian talking how it takes a long time to see a doctor in Canada

One of the most intriguing posts I have read here today

 

[IDL]

Fun fact, I recently went to a Dr. here in Canada (we have a dr. scarcity so it's next to impossible to get a family dr so only a walk in clinic)

Had something I wanted checked out relating to hearing.

Was told the wait time to see a ears, nose and throat specialist is....

2 years

Yep

 

[rearnakedchoke]

This is a pretty useless thread. Most Canadians will agree that we don’t have the best healthcare. But I could probably look up some horror stories from any country and it’s not some gotcha on their healthcare. Canadas system needs a lot of work, but to use this example as an overall picture of it is disingenuous.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

Fun fact, I recently went to a Dr. here in Canada (we have a dr. scarcity so it's next to impossible to get a family dr so only a walk in clinic)

Had something I wanted checked out relating to hearing.

Was told the wait time to see a ears, nose and throat specialist is....

2 years

Yep

Maybe you didnt hear that correctly.

 

[Scerpi]

Fun fact, I recently went to a Dr. here in Canada (we have a dr. scarcity so it's next to impossible to get a family dr so only a walk in clinic)

Had something I wanted checked out relating to hearing.

Was told the wait time to see a ears, nose and throat specialist is....

2 years

Yep

What!!!

I was pissied when I tried to see a dermatologist and they said 4 weeks.

 

[irish_thug]

Fun fact, I recently went to a Dr. here in Canada (we have a dr. scarcity so it's next to impossible to get a family dr so only a walk in clinic)

Had something I wanted checked out relating to hearing.

Was told the wait time to see a ears, nose and throat specialist is....

2 years

Yep

I know a guy who recently got told 18 months for an ENT, he's now nearly deaf in one ear.

But I know another guy that got a double knee on six weeks notice.

 

[Ruprecht]

i live in winnipeg. concordia hospital sucks. wait times at every hospital in the city are insane. i had to wait over 20 hours to get my head stitched up last year. sitting there with head wrap and a concussion.

That sucks. I thought Canada's UHC was about on par with ours here in Oz. I spent about four hours in hospital on Saturday a fortnight ago getting my forehead stitched up and a broken thumb x-rayed. I had an orthopaedic appointment with a specialist within the week.
That's just going into Emergency at the local hospital. We do also have the option of private cover though, so if I spent enough on it I'd presumably have had the option of claiming for a plastic surgeon to stitch my forehead up and going to a private facility to see an orthopaedic specialist and get an x-ray instead of relying on Emergency and having to sit in a waiting room with the rest of the hoi polloi.

 

[VinceArch]

I'd be lawyering up on that one.

 

[aerius]

This is a pretty useless thread. Most Canadians will agree that we don’t have the best healthcare. But I could probably look up some horror stories from any country and it’s not some gotcha on their healthcare. Canadas system needs a lot of work, but to use this example as an overall picture of it is disingenuous.

Yup. This is the kind of story I've been seeing from US media since at least the 1980s. Pull up some obscure fuckup in the Canadian system, interview a bunch of Canadians until you get your 2-3 people with sob stories who got fucked by the system, and then claim that the Canadian healthcare system is broken and every Canadian hates it.

Does our system have problems? Absolutely. The admin & record keeping side is bloated as hell and disorganized as fuck, and we also lost a shitload of doctors & nurses thanks to our BS covid policies. But we don't talk about that because it doesn't make for good headlines.

 

[fedoriswar37]

Not only is the Healthcare system poorly ran it's completely overburdened by massive influx of immigrants. Wete simply not equipped and our system flat out isn't designed to handle it.

 

[fedoriswar37]

lol... I did read the article. Are you fucking kidding? Are you insane?

There's no way in the US a patient would have been made to wait over a week to finish a surgical procedure due to lack of beds. This seems to be a uniquely Canada situation due to lack of facilities? And why is there a severe lack of facilities and extreme wait times.... Even making someone wait when their in a dire situation?

What? They couldn't have a life flight for her to a larger city with more capacity? Or put in an ambulance for a 8-12 hour drive? Who cares if it had been a 24 hour drive due to being too remote?

No.. The answer there was to just leave her to rot in a bed for a over a week? Doing nothing?

Sorry lady... We have to cut your leg off now

Furthermore, In the US, the Hospital and the Surgeon would be sued for the millions.

I mean , I'd love to have some sort of private option in Canada don't get me wrong but her alternative in the states may have been either sell her other leg for a knee surgery or simply not get one

 

[Corona]

Cangione will fix this imo

 

[IDL]

I mean , I'd love to have some sort of private option in Canada don't get me wrong but her alternative in the states may have been either sell her other leg for a knee surgery or simply not get one

Private options actually do exist in Canada. Pretty sure professional athletes or anyone else with some means aren't going to sit in a 6 month queue to get a knee fixed.

For example:

Cambie Surgery Centre | Private Surgery Vancouver

Cambie Surgery is a private surgery centre located in Vancouver BC specializing in sports medicine, cosmetic, and other surgical specialties.

www.cambiesurgery.com

 

[Kalmah]

I had to get major life saving emergency surgery last year. Spent a week in ICU, 21 days in the hospital recovering before I discharged myself.

When I got home the province covered home care for me so a nurse would come to my place and help clean my surgery wounds and stuff and they'd leave a TON of bandages and stuff for free. I only needed them for a couple weeks but I can still call them whenever I want.

I didn't get a bill for anything. Only thing I paid for was my prescription meds after I was discharged which was like 100$. I do have to buy my own medical supplies but the province covers 3/4 of the cost since I don't have coverage. Probably ends up being a couple hundred dollars a year.

After doing a bit of googling it looks like between the surgery and hospital stay it would have cost at least 100k in the US. Probably would have lost my house, vehicles, toys, and be homeless.

I'll take the long waits for non life threatening surgeries instead of going bankrupt any day thank you very much.

 

[Loiosh]

Fun fact, I recently went to a Dr. here in Canada (we have a dr. scarcity so it's next to impossible to get a family dr so only a walk in clinic)

Had something I wanted checked out relating to hearing.

Was told the wait time to see a ears, nose and throat specialist is....

2 years

Yep

Where in Canada are you?

I'm in Montreal and I live five minutes from an ENT that takes appointments right away.

If you go there their diagnosis isn't free but my insurance takes care of it, and if it's serious getting it taken care of is free (with Medicare).

 

[Sweater of AV]

Terrible story, although more details are needed on the decisions made throughout the entire process.

Unfortunately, there's no perfect health care system and things are worse everywhere since the pandemic. Taking this story as a reason to champion free market health care is laughable though. If people posted every negative story from our health care system we'd need a separate forum.

 

[IDL]

Where in Canada are you?

I'm in Montreal and I live five minutes from an ENT that takes appointments right away.

If you go there their diagnosis isn't free but my insurance takes care of it, and if it's serious getting it taken care of is free (with Medicare).

BC

Not sure if there are pay options or what since I am going off what the Dr. told me which I guess by default would funnel me through the public system.

 

[Loiosh]

BC
Not sure if there are pay options or what since I am going off what the Dr. told me

Where in BC? Vancouver isn't the same as Lillooet.

And yeah, it's kind of cheating to bring my insurance into it.