Can we just be honest about UFC matchmaking

[RockyLockridge]

my memory may be faulty at times (I am being generous here)... but for useless details (i.e. MMA), it is just about perfect

Yes, he was (short notice)... but my point was that he was not even an UFC fighter.
Matter of fact, he was a barista at the time he got the call from the UFC to fight DC.

And if they can take someone from the street to fight a top name, they can obviously pick Alex to fight Israel (if Israel was hungry to avenge his loss). I am pretty sure of it.

as another example, we have Joe Soto coming to the UFC with one day notice to face none other than T.J. Dillashaw for the BW belt when Barao fell sick during weight ins.
Joe was fighting for Tachi Palace (?) until then.

So again, it proves a newcomer can fight for the belt if there's a need or a history behind it.

Oh stop it your memory is FAR from perfect. there are SO MANY times a non ufc fighter gets signed to the UFC as a late replacement

When royval fought Tim elliot in his first UFC fight he was a prison guard at a juvenal hall, you're acting as if they pulled a barista off his shift for an emergency grudge match in a sport he doesn't compete in. Pat cummings had an undefeated mma record when they made that call.

ALSO DC was not a top name, if i remember correctly that was his LHW debut. it wasn't "for a belt" like you suggest it was.

and RE: joe soto, I believe Joe soto was making his UFC Debut that night, He was the only fighter who made championship weight so that's the fight they went with, much like when khabib fought raging al

 

[Just Creed]

nice try. this wasnt a crazy submission, it was a ko that made him quit his first sport.

nIcE tRy

It doesn't matter the circumstances for my example other than Anderson is not scares of Chonan, I just completely doubt Izzy is scared of a 1 dimensional fighter who got cage bullied by some no name Greek dude. Izzy has plenty more cage time than Alex, and has proven himself to be a top fighter. Alex hasn't done shit

 

[RampageFaction]

Remember when the UFC spun Pat Cummings fighting DC. Talking about how he made DC cry during wrestling practice or something.



Anything is possible

What do you mean by “spun it?” Pat put that out there, there was nothing to spin. He had already spun in insinuating that the reason DC cried was because of him.

 

[KhosVaziri]

nIcE tRy

It doesn't matter the circumstances for my example other than Anderson is not scares of Chonan, I just completely doubt Izzy is scared of a 1 dimensional fighter who got cage bullied by some no name Greek dude. Izzy has plenty more cage time than Alex, and has proven himself to be a top fighter. Alex hasn't done shit

I mean, he highlight reeled kod him and wasn't really being bullied and that guy is a bjj blackbelt.

 

[Shaddows]

Oh stop it, there are SO MANY times a non ufc fighter gets signed to the UFC as a late replacement

When royval fought Tim elliot in his first UFC fight he was a prison guard at a juvenal hall, you're acting as if they pulled a barista off his shift for an emergency grudge match in a sport he doesn't compete in. Pat cummings had an undefeated mma record when they made that call.

ALSO DC was not a top name, if i remember correctly that was his LHW debut. it wasn't "for a belt" like you suggest it was.

LOL are you that desperate to start an argument?
I mean, how fucking dishonest can you be?
"undefeated mma record"... yeah of 4 fucking fights, against true "monsters", like the amazing Willie Smalls, the incredible Ricky Pulu or the legendary Tasi Edwards and let us not forget the true master of all martial arts Terrell Brown!!!

Oh, and please show me where I even hinted it was for any belt, kid!
You can't. Because the only dishonest dumbass here is you.

 

[RockyLockridge]

LOL are you that desperate to start an argument?
I mean, how fucking dishonest can you be?
"undefeated mma record"... yeah of 4 fucking fights, against true "monsters", like the amazing Willie Smalls, the incredible Ricky Pulu or the legendary Tasi Edwards and let us not forget the true master of all martial arts Terrell Brown!!!

Oh, and please show me where I even hinted it was for any belt, kid!
You can't. Because the only dishonest dumbass here is you.

What the fuck are you actually talking about you literally JUST said

"So again, it proves a newcomer can fight for the belt if there's a need or a history behind it."

So as far as needs go, yes that applies to the dillashaw vs soto fight, but HISTORY has nothing to do with it. as far as the cummings vs DC goes, there was a history and a need to replace the fight, but it wasn't a title fight so it doesn't apply to that situation you described.

So again, what the fuck are you talking about?

you keep calling him a barista, but he's an mma fighter. but lots of people who fight in smaller orgs had parttime or even fulltime jobs. cain packed lettuce. Mighty mouse had a job too up until he fought dominic cruz.


It's okay to be wrong, Nothing I've said is incorrect, please correct me where possible. you say pat cummings was 4-0 against no bodies but DC is 0-0 at LHW at the time and had only fought in the UFC just once against frank mir

 

[Just Creed]

I mean, he highlight reeled kod him and wasn't really being bullied and that guy is a bjj blackbelt.

My point is, Chonan would never ever land that submission on Anderson ever again which is why Anderson doesn't care and isn't afraid of him. My comparison is that if Alex and Izzy fought, Izzy could completely underwhelm him with his full MMA arsenal, he's come a long way since his ufc debut and fight with Vettori.

The Greek dude didn't bully him with punches bit he completely smothered him for the majority of the 1st round...I literally rewatched the fight earlier to jog my memory.

BTW I'm not even a fan of Izzy, he was cool at first but he's a prick, I just think he's destined for big things

 

[ineverpost]

you sound like a huge Alex fan that is rightfully concerned that he's never going to accumulate enough wins to get a title shot and knock out a guy your presumably don't like.

 

[Shaddows]

What the fuck are you actually talking about you literally JUST said

"So again, it proves a newcomer can fight for the belt if there's a need or a history behind it."

So as far as needs go, yes that applies to the dillashaw vs soto fight, but HISTORY has nothing to do with it. as far as the cummings vs DC goes, there was a history and a need to replace the fight, but it wasn't a title fight so it doesn't apply to that situation you described.

So again, what the fuck are you talking about?

you keep calling him a barista, but he's an mma fighter. but lots of people who fight in smaller orgs had parttime or even fulltime jobs. cain packed lettuce. Mighty mouse had a job too up until he fought dominic cruz.


It's okay to be wrong, Nothing I've said is incorrect, please correct me where possible. you say pat cummings was 4-0 against no bodies but DC is 0-0 at LHW at the time and had only fought in the UFC just once against frank mir

Kid, I stopped reading after you clearly ADMITTED YOU WERE BLATANTLY LYING just to start shit.

I mentioned the belt because Israel has one.
I gave multiple examples of fighters who were called to fight top names or even for the belt. It happened. I provided examples to illustrate that if Israel wanted the fight, the UFC would make it.
Simple as that.

At this point I have no fucking idea why you want to argue about fucking FACTS.
Maybe you are a butthurt Israel fanboy that took exception I noted the fight does not happen because Israel does not want that fight. Well cry more, kid.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Kid, I stopped reading after you clearly ADMITTED YOU WERE BLATANTLY LYING just to start shit.

I mentioned the belt because Israel has one.
I gave multiple examples of fighters who were called to fight top names or even for the belt. It happened. I provided examples to illustrate that if Israel wanted the fight, the UFC would make it.
Simple as that.

At this point I have no fucking idea why you want to argue about fucking FACTS.
Maybe you are a butthurt Israel fanboy that took exception I noted the fight does not happen because Israel does not want that fight. Well cry more, kid.

K where's the lie?

You're being ridiculous. Listen, If cannonier pulled out of the fight with izzy coming up on a few weeks notice and Parreira beats silva and can make it to the fight, the make the fight and that's fine. but Izzy has contenders to fight, your examples don't fit this sceanrio. NOTHING about those 2 situations apply to izzy vs Pereira at all, your equivalencies are completely false. you couldn't be any more dishonest. I can tell you get emotional about izzy for whatever reason, but Both of those examples you gave were SHORT NOTICE REPLACEMENTS. Izzy has only ever fought one short notice replacement and it's yoel, you know this.

Izzy vs pereira has had ZERO opportunities to occur like the fights you mentioned (pat vs dc, soto vs dillashaw) so again, what the fuck are you talking about? You're fuckin weird dude...

 

[SeattleFightFan]

MMA fans are embarrassing, exhibit B.

 

[RockyLockridge]

MMA fans are embarrassing, exhibit B.

tell me about it, you should see the jackass a few posts above me, just pure cringe

 

[Shaddows]

K where's the lie?

You're being ridiculous. Listen, If cannonier pulled out of the fight with izzy coming up on a few weeks notice and Parreira beats silva and can make it to the fight, the make the fight and that's fine. but Izzy has contenders to fight, your examples don't fit this sceanrio. NOTHING about those 2 situations apply to izzy vs Pereira at all, your equivalencies are completely false. you couldn't be any more dishonest. I can tell you get emotional about izzy for whatever reason, but Both of those examples you gave were SHORT NOTICE REPLACEMENTS. Izzy has only ever fought one short notice replacement and it's yoel, you know this.

Izzy vs pereira has had ZERO opportunities to occur like the fights you mentioned (pat vs dc, soto vs dillashaw) so again, what the fuck are you talking about? You're fuckin weird dude...

Nah. You are the one who replied to my post to someone else, kid.
You are just being a dishonest dumbass, who admitted lying just to pick a fight.
Go find someone else, kid. I got zero respect for lying fucks like you.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Nah. You are the one who replied to my post to someone else, kid.
You are just being a dishonest dumbass, who admitted lying just to pick a fight.
Go find someone else, kid. I got zero respect for lying fucks like you.

whatever moron

 

[KhosVaziri]

I doubt his self esteem is low enough to be tied to the outcome of one fight in a different sport.

You're delusional if you don't think being put to sleep and then retiring from his first sport doesn't affect him in any way at all and is no big deal.

 

[Shaddows]

whatever moron

That's how you sound, kid.

 

[Dingaling]

This thread is hilarious

 

[SKITZADACTYL]

well he was a top guy in kickboxing and then got brutally kod and never did it again. you're delusional if you think that ko didnt make him change his mind about certain things and decide to pursue mma instead when he had to fight for another year before he got the call from the ufc.

check the likes and support on your posts and check mine, all i’m gonna say, shows you who has the right take.

you’re wrong and i’m right, not much else to it, cant keep arguing with a delusional hater. i fucked you on every single reply and everyone who has been in this thread knows it, know when to stop.

 

[Sticko]

I kind of disagree with you.
Didn't they bring Pat Cummins for DC?
And remember, Pat was a fucking Barista, so he was not even fighting!

So they would probably bring him to Izzy if Izzy was so inclined to fight him, regardless if Izzy is the champ and if Pereira is ranked or not.
It's just what they do.

At the time Cummins was undefeated in MMA, and his last MMA bout was only 9 months prior. Plenty of active UFC fighters have day jobs and longer breaks than that between fights. It was short-notice and DC wasn't champion at the time.

We have a weird situation where Pereira is potentially a bad matchup for the champion (simply because Izzy has never used offensive grappling in MMA) but is unranked and totally unproven against top grapplers in the division. He could easily lose to Vettori, Brunson, Andre Muniz, Hermansson, Weidman etc. if they can take him down. He doesn't deserve to fight for the belt unless he shows he at least has championship-level TDD.

There are plenty of unranked grapplers in the division who might even be able to beat Pereira. Guys like Nick Maximov, Albert Duraev, Gregory Rodrigues, Anthony Hernandez, Rodolfo Vieira, Jacob Malkoun, Kyle Daukaus, Deron Winn, and Gerald Meerschaert.

For all we know, Misha Cirkunov on a 3-fight losing streak might be able to tap Pereira.

Izzy had to get through Vettori, Brunson, and Gastelum just to win an interim belt. Pereira's best win in MMA is Andreas Michailidis.

 

[KhosVaziri]

check the likes and support on your posts and check mine, all i’m gonna say, shows you who has the right take.

you’re wrong and i’m right, not much else to it, cant keep arguing with a delusional hater. i fucked you on every single reply and everyone who has been in this thread knows it, know when to stop.

what do you think this is, an election? I don't care who agrees with you. No matter what, izzy got put to sleep and then he retired from kickboxing for good.

He doesn't want this fight. I can't wait. Its coming soon enough.