Can we just be honest about UFC matchmaking

[KhosVaziri]

Khamzat built a buzz around him. He still has to get through Burns and others. Alex did absolute shit in his division. What you are suggesting is highly disrespectful to other fighters in the division.

dude, they brought in cm punk with no mma fights. they brought in lesnar with 1.

I would have liked to see Izzy even ask for the fight just to get his revenge but he didn't ask for it. he wants to wait him out. he's ducking out of fear.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

yes I watched the fights.

the 2nd one ended with izzy getting kod so bad, he never fought kickboxing again.

What is this narrative izzy fan boys try to form? that it was really competitive so izzy just decided to retire from kickboxing for no reason? izzy had no offers from the ufc at that time.

also, is it cringe that Izzy could avenge his only ko loss in mma but chooses not to?

at least you admit UFC would have made the fight if Izzy wanted it. I can't see why he wouldn't want revenge.

Instead he's hoping Alex gets grapple fucked and is waiting for Alex to start slowing down as he gets older. They're only 2 years apart but those years after 30 make a big difference especially after 35 and especially at any weight class that isn't HW.

It's a bit funny that you take such a rigid stance against "Izzy Fanboys" but are equally one sided.

If Izzy fights Alex in his first fight and wins then its a guy who never fought MMA before. If the UFC allowed it and Alex wins they have a guy who wins the belt in his first fight. Now they have the Kickboxers > MMA fighters.

Could Alex beat Izzy in the cage? Yes. Is being a good style match up against one guy worthy of a title shot? No. Izzy has fought wrestlers, strikers, grapplers and guys with a mix of all 3. Denis Hallman never got a title shot vs Matt Hughes and its not because Matt Hughes didn't demand it (he didn't) its because he never earned it.

As for why Izzy left kickboxing for MMA. Could it have to do with money? He won the Glory MW tournament and how much did that pay? Also FYI he started MMA in 2012. That happens to be long before he retired from kickboxing. But don't let facts get in the way your your rant.

 

[NoSmilez]

dude, they brought in cm punk with no mma fights. they brought in lesnar with 1.

I would have liked to see Izzy even ask for the fight just to get his revenge but he didn't ask for it. he wants to wait him out. he's ducking out of fear.

Are you being dense on purpose? Israel just said it is premature to talk about title shots. I am not even an Israel fan and I know it's stupid to give an absolute no name a title shot after a win in the prelims. It makes absolutely no sense to do. From a rankings stand point or an entertainment standpoint.

 

[KhosVaziri]

It's a bit funny that you take such a rigid stance against "Izzy Fanboys" but are equally one sided.

If Izzy fights Alex in his first fight and wins then its a guy who never fought MMA before. If the UFC allowed it and Alex wins they have a guy who wins the belt in his first fight. Now they have the Kickboxers > MMA fighters.

Could Alex beat Izzy in the cage? Yes. Is being a good style match up against one guy worthy of a title shot? No. Izzy has fought wrestlers, strikers, grapplers and guys with a mix of all 3. Denis Hallman never got a title shot vs Matt Hughes and its not because Matt Hughes didn't demand it (he didn't) its because he never earned it.

As for why Izzy left kickboxing for MMA. Could it have to do with money? He won the Glory MW tournament and how much did that pay? Also FYI he started MMA in 2012. That happens to be long before he retired from kickboxing. But don't let facts get in the way your your rant.

Alex has been fighting/training mma for 7 years, he's just been more active in kickboxing.

izzy didnt have a ufc contract and was doing both until alex kod him so bad he decided to never kickbox again. I never said Izzy never did mma until alex kod him but he didnt have a ufc contract at that time either. its very obvious why he chose to focus on mma after that ko.

 

[KhosVaziri]

Are you being dense on purpose? Israel just said it is premature to talk about title shots. I am not even an Israel fan and I know it's stupid to give an absolute no name a title shot after a win in the prelims. It makes absolutely no sense to do. From a rankings stand point or an entertainment standpoint.

it does make sense. he has one blemish on his record and can get the ufc to agree to the fight. if he knows he will win, who cares about anything else? its not like there's a bunch of intriguing fights in the division especially now after he beat whittaker, again.

Like I said, he's ducking. expect more of the same after silva loses this saturday.

 

[HeDidn'tWantTheFight]

After running through Phillips, McKee, Meerschaert, and ranked Jingliang, Dana still came out and said there was no chance that Khamzat's next fight would be for the belt. He's not going to give Pereira a title shot for his 7th pro MMA fight without beating ranked opposition.

If you want a title shot for your third UFC fight, you've got to be a proven commodity like Jiri and violently end a top 10 guy and a top 5 guy respectively.

 

[Substance Abuse]

How do you know he isn't? he could take the fight at any time. that's the nature of the UFC. everyone here knows the ufc would make the fight, its up to izzy. seems like's scared. he also retired from kboxing after that ko because he was scared. never called for a trilogy fight but he could have got one there soon enough also.

How do you know he is? It doesn't seem like he's scared at all. So your assumption that a professional fighter is scared is more worthwhile than my assumption that he isn't since he puts himself in harms way for a living? Yeah... wolf tickets.

This entire thread is a reach and everyone in here is telling you so, lol.

 

[KhosVaziri]

How do you know he is? It doesn't seem like he's scared at all. So your assumption that a professional fighter is scared is more worthwhile than my assumption that he isn't since he puts himself in harms way for a living? Yeah... wolf tickets.

This entire thread is a reach and everyone in here is telling you so, lol.

lol funny mma fans think because someone is a pro fighter that they never duck fights. boxers are notorious for this. the mma landscape is a little bit different because after awhile, you can't keep denying someone a title shot. you have to retire or vacate the belt and go inactive to escape them.

Either way, let's see what Izzy says after Silva gets finished on saturday.

 

[Sweater of AV]

If Izzy wanted to immediately fight Alex after Alex KOs Silva, the UFC would sign it. Izzy could have fought him in his first UFC fight if he wanted to. Only delusional nut huggers think that the UFC wouldn't allow this if Izzy pushed for that fight.

He's scared and hopes he doesnt have to fight him again especially with small gloves

I could see Izzy either trying to bang it out and getting kod again or trying to be a wrestler and shooting takedowns for the first time ever in his career and it ending very badly.

WAR Poatan

These are the posts that let you know who is a complete idiot.

Let's see Potato fight Costa and Whittaker. If he beats both then he can fight Adesanya.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

i hope UFC makes it and then Izzy absolutely demolishes him. it would be so hilarious to come back here and watch the absolute copium these dudes would be smoking.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

These are the posts that let you know who is a complete idiot.

Let's see Potato fight Costa and Whittaker. If he beats both then he can fight Adesanya.

yea but then these guys would be using that as an excuse "of course he lost, it's Adesanya that he'd beat" type of argument. i already know how these bozos play. you can already see this dude is readying built in excuses. he already alluded to how Peireira is getting older and that the years past 30 are huge drop offs even tho he admitted they're only 2 years apart.

what would really be the best is if he fought Adesanya, and then Adesanya just took him down and submitted him or gnp him.

 

[Substance Abuse]

lol funny mma fans think because someone is a pro fighter that they never duck fights. boxers are notorious for this. the mma landscape is a little bit different because after awhile, you can't keep denying someone a title shot. you have to retire or vacate the belt and go inactive to escape them.

Either way, let's see what Izzy says after Silva gets finished on saturday.

How is he ducking a guy who is nowhere near a title shot? Where did I mention ducking? You said he was scared. Keep laughing to yourself.

 

[NationWideNinja]

Izzy wants his contenders to run the gauntlet in the sport and deserve their shot, is that now a bad look for the champ lmao? If Peireira is this badass he’ll get there anyway right? Does he deserve to skip every guy and challenge just because he beat Izzy in another sport?

And if you dont have confidence in him getting there you’re basically admitting that in your opinion he’ll lose the belt fairly quickly and that you’re only interested in potentially seeing Izzy lose.

Also hilarious how its “damned if you do, damned if you dont” in this sport. If he had fast-tracked Pereira, people would claim that he wants Pereira while hes still green in MMA and that hes ducking other guys like Khamzat or whatever random bs.

 

[fortheo]

it does make sense. he has one blemish on his record and can get the ufc to agree to the fight. if he knows he will win, who cares about anything else? its not like there's a bunch of intriguing fights in the division especially now after he beat whittaker, again.

Like I said, he's ducking. expect more of the same after silva loses this saturday.

The only blemish on Izzy's resume is Jan Blachowicz

 

[JeffDredd]

I don’t think Izzy is scared. But, he doesn’t seem to be frothing at the mouth for redemption. At some point the division needs fresh challengers. If Alex can win his next cpl-3 fights impressively, then this fight makes sense.

I think Izzy fans are the ones actually frightened of the matchup. But, this is one of those rare times where the champion calling out somebody would be appropriate. And the reason should be obvious to all. I suspect Izzy fans will all be on board with Silva this weekend. And if Silva wins they’ll talk massive shit.

I don't think anyone would disagree with him fighting a top 10 next, a top 5 after that and then getting a title shot. Some people in here are talking like he should get the title fight after this weekend if he wins and that is insanity.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Alex needs a couple of more fights before he's ready for Izzy IMO. I think everyone is hoping that he develops rapidly and can put on a very competitive MMA fight with Izzy. That's the goal.

Izzy isn't scared, homie. Regardless of the fact that he lost to Alex in kickboxing.

Alex is a fight or 2 away from Izzy. He was specifically brought in to fight Izzy. He'll get the white glove treatment when it comes to matchmaking and chaperoned to a fight with Izzy.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

I don't think anyone would disagree with him fighting a top 10 next, a top 5 after that and then getting a title shot. Some people in here are talking like he should get the title fight after this weekend if he wins and that is insanity.

Yes, but the thread is related to the other one where Izzy is not really wanting the fight according to Alex. Izzy called out Romero and the UFC made the fight. If Izzy really wanted the fight more than any other fight, I’m sure the UFC would make that fight if Alex has an impressive win this weekend.

This isn’t just some top 20 scrub. But a guy that beat Izzy twice before in a related combat sport. That fight practically sells itself. Let alone the shit talk already coming out. It’s easily the most interesting fight in the division. If rankings and shit don’t really matter, then make the most exciting fight available “if the champ really wants it”.

 

[KhosVaziri]

The only blemish on Izzy's resume is Jan Blachowicz

he's only been finished in combat sports once

 

[KhosVaziri]

yea but then these guys would be using that as an excuse "of course he lost, it's Adesanya that he'd beat" type of argument. i already know how these bozos play. you can already see this dude is readying built in excuses. he already alluded to how Peireira is getting older and that the years past 30 are huge drop offs even tho he admitted they're only 2 years apart.

what would really be the best is if he fought Adesanya, and then Adesanya just took him down and submitted him or gnp him.

I just want to see the fight. I think alex would win but its not a sure thing. I do feel like izzy is scared about it tho

 

[fortheo]

he's only been finished in combat sports once

Nobody cares. This is MMA. If you want people to care, then hope Alex does more in MMA to make people care.