Opinion California on fire

[Natural Order]

Can you fathom how stupid climate change deniers are to blame this on arson and deliberate unpreparedness?

Im sure a few factors at play….you realize California would burn about 5,000,000 acres a year prior to 1800? Its about the same now.

There were definitely people picked up with blow torches, not sure if that is how it started but certainly appears to have been part of it.

Unpreparedness? I’d say yes, and while maybe not intentional, certainly neglected even though experts have been sounding the alarm for decades.

 

[calavera2]

Is this scenario possible?

1. Politicians line their pockets for years with money supposed to go into infrastructure and whatever else. instead it goes into bribes, paying blackmailers, buying votes, luxury cars and hair gel and hookers and houses and blow. because you know it does.

2. they put a bunch of dei and "woke" policies in place, reasoning (with their greedy little reptile brains) that if anything major ever results from their theft and corruption, they can blame the dei policies. And all the unfortunate folks they put in roles they weren't qualified for were probably trying to do a good job....but they were put there to absorb blame. And the policies themselves were put in place to absorb blame. That's the only way some of those policies make sense, really.

3. they proclaim dei was a bad idea and move on. Even if it gets out of hand and makes the big, real politicians look like incompetent morons for adopting those policies in the 1st place, and they all lose their jobs and get booted out of politics ......so what? They would then just retire .....still out of prison and with allllllllllll that money. Having ruined the lives of countless citizens and also the poor pawns they put in positions they were unqualified for.

How likely is this scenario?

As likely as a MTG space lasers but i'm sure in your mind it's a brilliant observation.

 

[JonnyBonesPharmacist]

This is why you dont keep open boarders.
Also, raising money to help out the wealthiest people in the country? Nah, let them deal with what they voted for.
You wanna help people? Help the people in South Carolina, or Hawaii. They aren't rich movie stars.
Personally, I wouldn't lift a finger to help the people who voted this clown (Newsom) into office.
If we help them out, they wont change a thing

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

As likely as a MTG space lasers but i'm sure in your mind it's a brilliant observation.

i guess we'll see...

 

[JonnyBonesPharmacist]

Never stop failposting, will you? You're the greatest at it!

For sure one of the biggest clowns on this site

 

[Red Dragoniop]

Did Trump fuck this guy's wife? Wtf is wrong with him?

kimmel is a fucking clown always crying about something

 

[RoastBeast]

Screenshot of a bunch of thieves, looters and criminals in the fire zone. Where's all the magats at?

 

[Jesus X]

California is not on fire only a small section of L.A county in the mountains is on fire cut the histrionics. Most of u.s in L.A county aren't even affected by the fire. I'm holding a mug with two hands in my snuggie next to my live, laugh, love poster.

 

[Jesus X]

Dudes a pussy

L.a county has several fire departments you can't just say "L.A" fire fighters because you would only be referring to the city of L.A or what folks think of as DTLA. The places burning aren't even in the city of L.A itself they are in L.A county.

 

[Scerpi]

Can you fathom how stupid climate change deniers are to blame this on arson and deliberate unpreparedness?

Yeah... how stupid

Those Santa Ana winds have only been coming annually for 5,000 years. How could they possibly know that the winds were coming this year?

Must be climate change.

Santa Ana winds - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Santa Ana winds often bring the lowest relative humidities of the year to coastal Southern California. These low humidities, combined with the warm, compressionally-heated air mass, plus the high wind speeds, create critical fire weather conditions. The combination of wind, heat, and dryness accompanying the Santa Ana winds turns the chaparral into explosive fuel feeding the infamous wildfires for which the region is known.

The Santa Ana winds and the accompanying raging wildfires have been a part of the ecosystem of the Los Angeles Basin for over 5,000 years, dating back to the earliest habitation of the region by the Tongva and Tataviam peoples. The Santa Ana winds have been recognized and reported in English-language records as a weather phenomenon in Southern California since at least the mid-nineteenth century. During the Mexican–American War, Commodore Robert Stockton reported that a "strange, dust-laden windstorm" arrived in the night while his troops were marching south through California in January 1847. Various episodes of hot, dry winds have been described over this history as dust storms, hurricane-force winds, and violent north-easters, damaging houses and destroying fruit orchards. Newspaper archives have many photographs of regional damage dating back to the beginnings of news reporting in Los Angeles. When the Los Angeles Basin was primarily an agricultural region, the winds were feared particularly by farmers for their potential to destroy crops.


And the mayor wasn't warned in previous months that the department had the worst staffing in the nation. And Mayor Bass was trying to cut another $50 million beyond the $17 million she already cut.

More Climate Change

‘Beyond the brink’: Data shows LA Fire Department among the most understaffed in America​

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/14/us/la-fire-department-resourses-understaffed-invs/index.html

Less than a month before fires swept across Los Angeles, a group of longtime firefighters gathered at City Hall to plead for more resources. They were at a “breaking point,” one said. Another revealed that million-dollar fire trucks sat idle because budget cuts had shrunk the number of mechanics available to fix them.

“I’m going to say what people can’t say,” said Freddy Escobar, president of the city’s fire union and a veteran firefighter. “If we cut one position, if we close one station … the residents of Los Angeles are going to pay the ultimate sacrifice, and someone will die.”

The firefighters’ concerns over resources, it seems, weren’t off the mark. A CNN analysis of the most recent data available from the 10 largest US cities and other comparable departments shows the Los Angeles Fire Department is less staffed than almost any other major city, leaving it struggling to meet both daily emergencies and larger disasters such as wildfires.

Despite being located in one of the most fire-prone areas in the country, the LAFD has less than one firefighter for every 1,000 residents. That compares to cities such as Chicago, Dallas and Houston, where staffing is closer to two firefighters for the same number of residents. Of the largest cities, only San Diego has fewer firefighters per capita.

One of the speakers joining firefighters at the Fire Commission meeting last month was City Councilmember Traci Park. She warned resources were being strained “beyond the brink” despite a dangerously increasing risk of wildfire.

“Time and time again, elected leaders in Los Angeles have failed to make meaningful investments in our public safety and as a result, Angelenos are suffering the consequences,” Park said.

Just 21 days later, the Pacific Palisades community within Park’s council district ended up as the epicenter of one of the fires.

LA’s firefighters say the lack of resources is an everyday concern that extends beyond their ability to battle wildfires. They are also tasked with responding to structural fires, traffic accidents and medical emergencies, which have spiked amid a worsening homelessness crisis.

In a memo from the end of last year, Los Angeles Fire Chief Kristin Crowley also expressed concerns that the fire department’s staffing levels were half the size that a professional fire department should be, based on benchmarks recommended by the National Fire Protection Association.

In the memo, which the city has since removed from its website, Crowley wrote that the city’s population had grown from about 2.5 million in 1960 to nearly 4 million in 2020. Yet the city has fewer fire stations today than it did back then, even as firefighters respond to a call volume that has quadrupled.



And who needs water to fight fires? Just keep the main water supply reservoir drained for a year... What could go wrong?

Must be Climate Change and Not A Complete and Utter Failure of Democrat Policies.

At least the State is spending billions per year on the homeless and making sure they get their free health care.

Fuck the Tax Payers... Democrats are more concerned about Criminals, Illegal Immigrants and the Homeless... lol

 

[avenue94]

What is wrong about what I posted? Yes, I posted a tweet. If you do have information showing this is wrong, I will remove the post.


I posted a source that showed some of the fire budget money was wasted. Some of the fire department budget is going to "Gay man's choir"

Personally, I think having water in fire hydrants would be more beneficial than covering Gay man's choir, which actually should not receive any money.

But you pay for what you get. And California paid for diversity and inclusion, this is what they get.

California mismanaged their budget. Please provide a source that shows otherwise.

Yes, your information is wrong. Those claims wouldn't even hold up under cursory critical analysis of what you're reading. The fact that you believe that a Gay Man's choir being funded or not would have made a smidge of a difference here is absurd. It's like claiming a pro athlete would have won a game if he wore his lucky socks or some shit, just irrelevant.

 

[avenue94]

L.a county has several fire departments you can't just say "L.A" fire fighters because you would only be referring to the city of L.A or what folks think of as DTLA. The places burning aren't even in the city of L.A itself they are in L.A county.

It's the same people who think there's just one budget for fighting fires in the entire state or that because California spent X on Y, that means that was money that could have gone to fire fighting. Just insane rubes.

 

[Scerpi]

Never stop failposting, will you? You're the greatest at it!

How is this clown a moderator?

 

[chardog]

here's a very interesting story:

elderly couple protect their property, however, it was a gigantic place to protect and only two people. One of the sides was naturally protected by oak trees planted by the owner. They have experience in this matter, stretching back to 78' fires, they knew what was going on and have prep work. It turns out that oak trees retain a lot of water while alive, and dont easily catch on fire, and indeed, it was the oak trees that kept their hillside safe. the video dedicated a whole 2 seconds on the oak trees, but very interesting tidbit on future prevention measures using brains and knowledge.

 

[Whippy McGee]

Thanks for linking that. I'd forgotten about it as well didn't lose power. I'd like to add that though the temperature dropped down very cold in 2011 it wasn't a 4-5 day long freeze where people lost their lives. in 2011 most homes and businesses had their power back on the same day. I agree that the infrastructure here is not suited for cold weather like that, but I don't consider these two events the same or comparable. I do think the energy companies running the infrastructure are bullshit, especially after last summers category 1 storm took Houston out for nearly two weeks. turns out, the first three days, the most critical, was lost because reliant (or Centerpoint, cant remember) was arguing about the out of state workers per diem. my sister in law stayed with us for 8 days before her power was restored. this company made billions in profit and argued over a few dollars per day as opposed to getting the power back on at all costs.

Texas does not have an energy generation problem. With Comanche Peak Nuclear and South Texas Project nuclear, you're fine. You do have a transmission problem which is about power lines and transformers. I would much rather have Texas's issues than California's. California produces 200 TWh a year and uses 260+ and that number is increasing. As soon as the data centers, EVs, and Block Chain take more and more of the energy Arizona sells us, we are going dark here and it's long term off and on until we get more generation which there are no real plans for it.

Vistra (Texas based) just bought 3 more nuclear plants from Energy Harbor.

 

[White Whale]

Recall effort launched against Gavin Newsom as wildfires devastate California

The recall effort calls on Californians who are growing 'increasingly disillusioned' with Gov. Gavin Newsom's leadership to join.

thenationaldesk.com

Recall effort launched against Gavin Newsom as wildfires devastate California​

Californians are organizing a recall effort against Gov. Gavin Newsom as raging wildfires continue to devastate parts of the state.

The fires, which have spread through the greater Los Angeles area, have killed at least 24 people and destroyed over 12,000 structures as of Tuesday. Local police have also made arrests of several individuals allegedly attempting to spark separate fires.

Randy Economy, a former senior advisor to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., announced Sunday he was relaunching his 2021 recall effort against Gov. Newsom. He called on residents who are growing “increasingly disillusioned” with the governor’s leadership to join the initiative.

"Governor Gavin Newsom's governance has been marked by a series of catastrophic failures, particularly his mismanagement of the recent wildfires, which have led to unprecedented displacement and destruction,” Houman David Hemmati, executive board member of Saving California, wrote in the announcement. “Wildfires are a common and well-known issue in California. The fact that Governor Newsom has not been able to come up with any plan or prep after six years as governor and eight years as lieutenant governor shows that he is completely unprepared and lacks the compassion and will to lead California any longer.”

They are going to try and recall Gavin Newsom again. Hopefully they succeed this time but I doubt it.

 

[ShadowRun]

How is this clown a moderator?

No idea he’s a bad poster and a worse mod

 

[fedorthegoat777]

Yes, your information is wrong. Those claims wouldn't even hold up under cursory critical analysis of what you're reading. The fact that you believe that a Gay Man's choir being funded or not would have made a smidge of a difference here is absurd. It's like claiming a pro athlete would have won a game if he wore his lucky socks or some shit, just irrelevant.

So then who is at fault for burning down Los Angeles? Climate Change? Aliens? Sponge Bob?

California got millions of dollars to fight fires and basic fire fighter stuff like having water Is not there. I am not a professional fire fighter by trade, but realize that having water in a dry climate might be a good idea. So if the money is not going to gay choir practice, where is the money going to? Because literally nothing was done. Canada and Mexico are doing more.

The fact is, every penny of that budget was wasted because California has no resources to fight these fires. Maybe you are right, only a little bit of the budget wad wasted on gay choir practice, but the entire surplus was wasted. This shows you that DEI candidates might fit well into Disney, but not the real world.

 

[Scerpi]

Thanks for linking that. I'd forgotten about it as well didn't lose power. I'd like to add that though the temperature dropped down very cold in 2011 it wasn't a 4-5 day long freeze where people lost their lives. in 2011 most homes and businesses had their power back on the same day. I agree that the infrastructure here is not suited for cold weather like that, but I don't consider these two events the same or comparable. I do think the energy companies running the infrastructure are bullshit, especially after last summers category 1 storm took Houston out for nearly two weeks. turns out, the first three days, the most critical, was lost because reliant (or Centerpoint, cant remember) was arguing about the out of state workers per diem. my sister in law stayed with us for 8 days before her power was restored. this company made billions in profit and argued over a few dollars per day as opposed to getting the power back on at all costs.

No shit... My mom was visiting for the 4th this summer and when the storm started looking like it was going to hit, I got her on a early flight out of here.

We were both driving around Seabrook/Kemah/Clear Lake... noting how many trees were overhanging power lines.

Centerpoint was supposed to be trimming these trees and keeping the lines clear. If you don't keep trees trimmed around here, mother nature will do it for you. I had a neighbor where a tree took out part of the house.

I was without power for 6 days after that storm... sucked.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/centerpoint-tree-management-budget-puc-19597392.php

I have an awesome queen palm tree that's has grown from about 15' in 2005 to almost 40' now... I've been eying it recently and debating getting it taking down. It would break my heart if i do. But I also don't want it taking out my house or a neighbor's house.

 

[ShadowRun]