Law California Lawmakers Pass a Mask Ban for Law Enforcement

[Bobby00]

Fake beards about to make a comeback.

 

[freakroor]

So you should be able to walk around naked in public with no law against it?

yes i believe nudity should be legal and encouraged (climate permitting). America has a strange fear of nudity, moreso than Europe for example. Nudity on TV and in film is mostly forbidden, while extreme violence is commonplace. what are those values?

 

[oldshadow]

yes i believe nudity should be legal and encouraged (climate permitting). America has a strange fear of nudity, moreso than Europe for example. Nudity on TV and in film is mostly forbidden, while extreme violence is commonplace. what are those values?

Ok you ate entitled to ypur option but you are in a very small minority.

 

[freakroor]

Ok you ate entitled to ypur option but you are in a very small minority.

i think people who are afraid of nudity are weird.

 

[oldshadow]

i think people who are afraid of nudity are weird.

So you have never been to a Walmart in your life i take it. Because I'm very afraid of seeing a lot of what I see there nude.

 

[Hog-train]

Should ICE be able to randomly arrest people in your State while wearing masks? It's just everyone else that shouldn't be able to wear them?

They're not randomly arresting people though. They're detaining illegal aliens.

I dont think the gov't should get involved in what people do or don't wear, but i also dont think law enforcement should wear masks. in fact i dont see any good reason for them to do so.

There's a very good reason they wear masks. There are organized campaigns across the country to dox them.

 

[avenue94]

There's a very good reason they wear masks. There are organized campaigns across the country to dox them.

And? There is no inherent right to privacy in public for police.

 

[deviake]

Fuckin' a. Accountability.

State's rights, as conservatives claim to be so found of. And I know conservatives, being the ideological consistent individuals that they are, don't want to be tread on by an unaccountable federali, right? Ain't that what all the stickers are about?

 

[Hog-train]

And? There is no inherent right to privacy in public for police.

And there is no overarching federal law in the United States that prohibits federal police from wearing masks either. So who are you to demand they unmask when their families are potentially in danger?

 

[deviake]

Protesting is a Constitutional right. Copping isn't, it's a job.

 

[avenue94]

And there is no overarching federal law in the United States that prohibits federal police from wearing masks either. So who are you to demand they unmask when their families are potentially in danger?

Who said there was one?

Fundamentally, transparency between police and citizens is paramount. Hence I support no masks for cops outside of the obvious exceptions. If that's what the people want, which they do in this case, go for it.

Cops are free to quit if that doesn't work with them.

 

[Hog-train]

Who said there was one?

Exactly. There is no law. So they don't have to unmask.

Fundamentally, transparency between police and citizens is paramount. Hence I support no masks for cops outside of the obvious exceptions. If that's what the people want, which they do in this case, go for it.

Cops are free to quit if that doesn't work with them.

The transparency is the badge they have and they show it. They have to ID themselves to the people they detain (which they do) - not to random people on the street with cellphone cameras.

Do you realize just a few years ago (pre-Covid) normal people in the street wearing ski masks covering their whole face (like Antifa does) would be considered a potential criminal or robber?

Why are normal citizens wearing ski masks over their entire face? Covid is over. Obviously to do some illegal shit.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Fuckin' a. Accountability.

State's rights, as conservatives claim to be so found of. And I know conservatives, being the ideological consistent individuals that they are, don't want to be tread on by an unaccountable federali, right? Ain't that what all the stickers are about?

Accountability? They're kicking out people who have none.

 

[avenue94]

Exactly. There is no law. So they don't have to unmask.

Federal agents, no, but this law also applies to local and state law enforcement. If the federal part gets tossed out, still a good law in my books.

The transparency is the badge they have and they show it. They have to ID themselves to the people they detain (which they do) - not to random people on the street with cellphone cameras.

Why should police not be identifiable to the public? They serve the public and answer to them ultimately.

You seem to not understand how corrosive it is for masked police to operate in a democracy. There's a reason it doesn't happen in other countries very often, even those with a right to forget.

Do you realize just a few years ago (pre-Covid) normal people in the street wearing ski masks covering their whole face (like Antifa does) would be considered a potential criminal or robber?

People are free to think that, but legally they wouldn't be. You seem to hate the 1A.

Why are normal citizens wearing ski masks over their entire face? Covid is over. Obviously to do some illegal shit.

Citizens are free to wear what they want in public outside of very few exceptions. This isn't very hard to understand.

 

[deviake]

Accountability? They're kicking out people who have none.

?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

We have so many problems here that they could fix

much bigger problems

but shit like this is what they care about

the roads are fucked, the homeless are shitting everywhere, tagging everything, attacking random people, ODing in public
the taxes are too high, they tax the shit out of everything, houses are too expensive and takes a lifetime to build anything anywhere

Bigger problems than to spend all this money on ICE agents to target any illegal alien no matter their contributions to our society?

 

[Loiosh]

Doesn't matter if he signed it. They have no control over the uniform of federal agents.

Let's see (and I hope he does) him send the state or local police to arrest federal agents for wearing a mask.

This is confusing.

Conservatives were terrified of Biden's replacement IRS agents but you have absolutely no problem with Trump lowering the job requirements to almost zero and allowing ICE to operate with no identification at all.

Do you not see any potential problems with a huge, anonymous wing of law enforcement?

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Fake beards about to make a comeback.

 

[Hog-train]

Federal agents, no, but this law also applies to local and state law enforcement. If the federal part gets tossed out, still a good law in my books.

You didn't even read the article.

"The bill would prohibit neck gator, ski masks and other facial covering for local,and federal officers including immigration enforcement agents, while they conduct official business.

But even if the governor signs the measure into law, it's unclear whether the state could enforce it on the federal agents who have been carrying out those raids."

Why should police not be identifiable to the public? They serve the public and answer to them ultimately.

You seem to not understand how corrosive it is for masked police to operate in a democracy. There's a reason it doesn't happen in other countries very often, even those with a right to forget.

You seem to not understand it is dangerous to carry on an arrest while a karen with a camera is screaming in their face to id themselves.

They're literally in the middle of an arrest and we have people actively trying to interfere. That's illegal AND dangerous.

Even if a normal cop was making an arrest, they are under no legal obligation to tell some random stranger what the arrest is for. They just need to tell the person being arrested.

Citizens are free to wear what they want in public outside of very few exceptions. This isn't very hard to understand.

And federal agents are free to wear masks. The law literally allows it.

 

[avenue94]

You didn't even read the article.

"The bill would prohibit neck gator, ski masks and other facial covering for local,and federal officers including immigration enforcement agents, while they conduct official business.

But even if the governor signs the measure into law, it's unclear whether the state could enforce it on the federal agents who have been carrying out those raids."

The fuck...that's literally what I said. Are you reading stuff you reply to fully?

You seem to not understand it is dangerous to carry on an arrest while a karen with a camera is screaming in their face to id themselves.

They're literally in the middle of an arrest and we have people actively trying to interfere. That's illegal AND dangerous.

Even if a normal cop was making an arrest, they are under no legal obligation to tell some random stranger what the arrest is for. They just need to tell the person being arrested.

It's more dangerous to have citizens not trusting police and police feeling they are not accountable to citizens (which is already a bad enough issue).

The courts have repeatedly affirmed that citizens have a constitutional right to film arrests as long as they do not directly interfere. Shouting at police does not qualify. Apparently, you want to constrain that fundamental right.

And federal agents are free to wear masks. The law literally allows it.

Again, read what I posted. Jesus.