Law Cain Velazquez arrested for shooting.

dreden1982 said:
Why would you think it was her who granted the bail?

He might be considered only a risk to the Chomo if he hadn't potentially endangered other people by ramming the car and shooting on the highway. That's the mitigating factor imo and the judge even says that. I'm a huge Cain fan and loathe :eek::eek::eek::eek:s but I'm not going to delude myself and say that I don't understand the bail denial. I wish he got bail but I get it.
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All I am saying is that I have seen low bail for worse. 50k for a guy charged with murder and he murdered someone while he was out on bail. It’s not like Cain is a risk to the community aside from the chase and shooting-I know that sounds odd to say, but he had a specific target. It is rare when they set no bond even in violent crimes
 
nhbbear said:
All I am saying is that I have seen low bail for worse. 50k for a guy charged with murder and he murdered someone while he was out on bail. It’s not like Cain is a risk to the community aside from the chase and shooting-I know that sounds odd to say, but he had a specific target. It is rare when they set no bond even in violent crimes
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Yeah I get it. I guess you'd have to compare it to other cases that came before this particular judge. She might feel the same way as you.
 
nhbbear said:
So, when determining bond, you look at the crime, the criminal history, flight risk, and potential harm or danger to the community. Cain does not have a history of violence(outside the cage to the best of my knowledge), he is not a flight risk, and the person he attempted to kill is not a random innocent victim. Imo, he poses only a risk to that person, not the community. He is not some gangbanger arrested for the 29th time for violent crimes that bonds out and commits more crimes only to get bond again. Bond is granted all the time for shooters and murderers-it’s just high. Completely denying any type of bond is rare. I think a $100k and monitoring home confinement would be a safe option.

The guy that attempted to kill the mayoral candidate in Louisville had a 100k bond that blm paid and he was free the next day. This was Cain trying to take out a child molester and they refused to give him a bond. After a single search, I found where murderers got as little as 50k bond and several stories where murderers out on low bonds committed other murders.
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This is to send a message to potential vigilantes.

As morally righteous as the act was, not throwing the book, gavel and courtroom at him would look like a green light on chomo's.
 
Keep Cain until the molester gets sentences and is put in the same wing as him. Cain can settle their differences then he can be let free as "not a danger to society"...
 
dreden1982 said:
You really think that she sympathizes with :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes and that's why she denied bail? Seems far fetched.
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I think Cain attacked a member of a marginalized and oppressed community, in her view as a social justice zealot, she can relate to that.
 
jamel said:
This is to send a message to potential vigilantes.

As morally righteous as the act was, not throwing the book, gavel and courtroom at him would look like a green light on chomo's.
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Green light on goofs is okay in my books.
 
Badger67 said:
Green light on goofs is okay in my books.
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Agreed.

Watch how quick our power structure flips too.

I imagine there are a shit ton of people just itchin for a green light.
 
I'm always amazed at how lenient many molestation cases are charged and handled. We have that website you can use to see sex criminals that live nearby. The horrible shit you see, and then see the time served, its bullshit. I do not blame Cain one bit about what he did or how he reacted. There really no place for leniency with sex crimes, especially :eek::eek::eek::eek: shit.
 
jamel said:
This is to send a message to potential vigilantes.

As morally righteous as the act was, not throwing the book, gavel and courtroom at him would look like a green light on chomo's.
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Like I said, not giving a bond is rare and used in the most extreme cases. If he was not semi famous which garnered attention, he would have gotten bond
 
GearSolidMetal said:
I think Cain attacked a member of a marginalized and oppressed community, in her view as a social justice zealot, she can relate to that.
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Where are you getting that she is such a zealot? I am not arguing, just curious
 
nhbbear said:
Alright, she is what you say she is, but what does that have to do with her denying bond?
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Its excessive, plain and simple.

As for the excuse Cain is 'a danger to the community' that's bullshit. He was a danger to one member of the community, while the :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile is a danger to every child of the community, yet he got bail. (Haven't heard if its the same judge in both cases)

And its an amazing that the one time a 'social justice' judge is being tough on crime is when the targeted victim was a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Its excessive, plain and simple.

As for the excuse Cain is 'a danger to the community' that's bullshit. He was a danger to one member of the community, while the :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile is a danger to every child of the community, yet he got bail. (Haven't heard if its the same judge in both cases)

And its an amazing that the one time a 'social justice' judge is being tough on crime is when the targeted victim was a :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile.
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I simply don’t believe it is because she has a soft spot for :eek::eek::eek::eek:s, also, keeping in mind the man he shot was not the :eek::eek::eek::eek:. I think it is because he is well known and eyes are on the case. Personally, I think flat out refusing to set a bond is not fair when compared to all the actual thugs and gang members that get low bonds despite violent and lengthy criminal records
 
nhbbear said:
I simply don’t believe it is because she has a soft spot for :eek::eek::eek::eek:s, also, keeping in mind the man he shot was not the :eek::eek::eek::eek:. I think it is because he is well known and eyes are on the case.
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@GearSolidMetal already made two very salient points that cannot be argued with. He pointed out that the judge is a black lady and that she is undoubtedly "woke". Therefore it is very highly likely that she denied bail because she is pro :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile.

She probably didn't even consider the idea that this is a high profile case or the possibility of Cain killing the guy if he was released. Seems like an Occam's Razor situation to me.
 
Velasquez allegedly pursued the accused child molester from his home before firing several shots at the vehicle and Goularte’s stepfather was hit by a bullet. He was taken to a local hospital for treatment for non-life threatening injuries.

Police then arrested Velasquez minutes later without incident and he was later charged with attempted, premeditated murder.


Premeditated. He’s not getting out of this imo.The person he shot was innocent .I can imagine the blind rage though.
 
Buford T. Justice said:
@GearSolidMetal already made two very salient points that cannot be argued with. He pointed out that the judge is a black lady and that she is undoubtedly "woke". Therefore it is very highly likely that she denied bail because she is pro :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile.

She probably didn't even consider the idea that this is a high profile case or the possibility of Cain killing the guy if he was released. Seems like an Occam's Razor situation to me.
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Personally, I hate activism from the bench and the courts on either side. But IMO, it does seem to come the left more so then the right-not that the right doesn’t try it with abortion and voting laws. But the woke district attorneys pushing bail reform on has had disastrous results with the people they allow out on almost no bond are reoffending and harming people or even murdering people while out on bond has cost lives. And many times, it is based on the race of the offender because they don’t want yet another black male in jail because they are black and “there’s too many black men in jail.” And I would say there is a reason for that-they hold the belt when it comes to violent crimes of shooting and murder compared to their representation (6% of the population, 50% of the murders, and even more for attempted murder with a firearm. These progressive district attorneys are releasing these violent offenders on greatly reduced bonds and failing to act when they violate that bond. First they blamed covid for all the releases that everyone knew was a crock of shit and now they flat out say they are doing it because of race snd wealth status. If it were drug crimes; I wouldn’t argue but they are doing it in violent carjackings, shootings, rape, and murder
 
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