Law Cain Velazquez arrested for shooting.

[pakimahi]

Let's send this dumb bitch some hate mail.. who can get an e-mail address?

 

[wwkirk]

Let's send this dumb bitch some hate mail.. who can get an e-mail address?

 

[wwkirk]

There are two major Cain arrest/shooting threads. Are they supposed to be different somehow?

 

[Ichibanner]

Cain needs to be punished, he should serve time for his criminal actions. What a dumb thing to do. Get heated at an accused , arm yourself, chase said accused, and shoot indiscriminately into an automobile; unintentionally wounding someone that isn't your intended target.

Great choice Cain. Now you can wonder if your wife and kids will be visiting you in prison and if the kids will get a decent step-dad to help raise them in your absence. Absolute stupidity on display.

Dude could probably have punched a ticket on Telemundo covering boxing, MMA, or sports in general. Nope. Cop a First Degree Attempted Murder charge instead. SMH.......

 

[BearGrounds]

I'm always amazed at how lenient many molestation cases are charged and handled. We have that website you can use to see sex criminals that live nearby. The horrible shit you see, and then see the time served, its bullshit. I do not blame Cain one bit about what he did or how he reacted. There really no place for leniency with sex crimes, especially shit.

Pretty sure the max is 10 years, which is absurd. That shit scars children forever.

s should be executed.

 

[Ichibanner]

Pretty sure the max is 10 years, which is absurd. That shit scars children forever.

s should be executed.

What really amazes me is the sentencing disparity between men and women concerning sex with minors, how we view each crime, and the sentences given. This is especially true among teachers who offend.

We treat underage girls as worthy of protection and more harshly punish men who abuse them while treating boys as less of a victim and being more lenient towards female offenders. It's sickening.

Imagine someone killing twin children using the same method but receiving different sentences because one was a 10 year old girl and the other her twin brother.

 

[pakimahi]

Cain needs to be punished, he should serve time for his criminal actions. What a dumb thing to do. Get heated at an accused , arm yourself, chase said accused, and shoot indiscriminately into an automobile; unintentionally wounding someone that isn't your intended target.

Great choice Cain. Now you can wonder if your wife and kids will be visiting you in prison and if the kids will get a decent step-dad to help raise them in your absence. Absolute stupidity on display.

Dude could probably have punched a ticket on Telemundo covering boxing, MMA, or sports in general. Nope. Cop a First Degree Attempted Murder charge instead. SMH.......

Easy to yap when it's not your kid. I'm guessing you're not a parent at all.

 

[BearGrounds]

What really amazes me is the sentencing disparity between men and women concerning sex with minors, how we view each crime, and the sentences given. This is especially true among teachers who offend.

We treat underage girls as worthy of protection and more harshly punish men who abuse them while treating boys as less of a victim and being more lenient towards female offenders. It's sickening.

Imagine someone killing twin children using the same method but receiving different sentences because one was a 10 year old girl and the other her twin brother.

Fuckin patriarchy! Wait, what?

Jokes about radical feminist bullshit aside, I agree. The sexual predation perpetrated by females is largely considered something young boys should welcome. It's high fives for the victims, and a slap on the wrist for the predators.

That mentality doesn't help curb the incidence rate, it promotes it. Female teachers especially should have the book thrown at them, as they're placed in a position of authority and are entrusted with educating our youth. Betraying that trust in such a manner is unacceptable, and should be harshly deterred.

 

[Ichibanner]

Easy to yap when it's not your kid. I'm guessing you're not a parent at all.

You don't know me, nor do you know my situation nor Cain's for that matter.

Was it one of Cain's children that was the victim? Did he accomplish his goal? Was it worth it? Is he currently able to hold and comfort the victim from his cell?

I don't blame the parent of a victim for wanting to beat or kill the person who harmed their child. However, grabbing a gun, chasing down a vehicle, firing will-nilly into it, and injuring someone who wasn't your target? No, you don't get a pass to act in a careless, criminal, and potentially deadly manner.

 

[White Whale]

Its excessive, plain and simple.

As for the excuse Cain is 'a danger to the community' that's bullshit. He was a danger to one member of the community, while the phile is a danger to every child of the community, yet he got bail. (Haven't heard if its the same judge in both cases)

And its an amazing that the one time a 'social justice' judge is being tough on crime is when the targeted victim was a phile.

The problem is Cain shot into a vehicle and the wrong person got shot. Also you have to factor in stray bullets that could have hit someone in the area. Just by those facts the judge could rule he is a danger to public.

 

[Scerpi]

All I am saying is that I have seen low bail for worse. 50k for a guy charged with murder and he murdered someone while he was out on bail. It’s not like Cain is a risk to the community aside from the chase and shooting-I know that sounds odd to say, but he had a specific target. It is rare when they set no bond even in violent crimes

The revolving door of low bail and PR bonds. What could go wrong?

 

[blaseblah]

What really amazes me is the sentencing disparity between men and women concerning sex with minors, how we view each crime, and the sentences given. This is especially true among teachers who offend.

We treat underage girls as worthy of protection and more harshly punish men who abuse them while treating boys as less of a victim and being more lenient towards female offenders. It's sickening.

Imagine someone killing twin children using the same method but receiving different sentences because one was a 10 year old girl and the other her twin brother.

If we are taking about a 10 year old I agree that it's sickening. But if we are talking about a 14 to 17 year old teenage boy this is someone with a raging hard on who probably initiated the encounter. I remember being that age. I would have smashed anything that moved and discussion of which teacher we wanted to bang was commonplace in the locker room. I think that's why the disparity exists. The people making the laws are mostly men and they remember being teenagers.

 

[Scerpi]

She's woke trash because she's black?

Fuck are you even trying to argue? You are usually more subtle with your racism.

Violent crimes rarely get bail. Regardless of what you feel, Cain recklessly shot and injured a man that wasn't accused of anything. This isn't "woke".

Violent crimes rarely get bail? Guess you haven't been paying attention what's going with activist Judges and DA's and their liberal use of PR bonds and low bail amounts.

They're more interested in protecting criminals than their victims.

 

[Scerpi]

If we are taking about a 10 year old I agree that it's sickening. But if we are talking about a 14 to 17 year old teenage boy this is someone with a raging hard on who probably initiated the encounter. I remember being that age. I would have smashed anything that moved and discussion of which teacher we wanted to bang was commonplace in the locker room. I think that's why the disparity exists. The people making the laws are mostly men and they remember being teenagers.

If you've beat off or bragged about your "encounter", then you weren't really a victim... lol

 

[blaseblah]

If you've beat off or bragged about your "encounter", then you weren't really a victim... lol

And there's the disparity. I agree that a female teacher who has sex with a male student has something wrong with her and needs to be punished. But unless the guy is gay he probably isn't a victim.

 

[DespicablePeep]

Cain needs to be punished, he should serve time for his criminal actions. What a dumb thing to do. Get heated at an accused , arm yourself, chase said accused, and shoot indiscriminately into an automobile; unintentionally wounding someone that isn't your intended target.

Great choice Cain. Now you can wonder if your wife and kids will be visiting you in prison and if the kids will get a decent step-dad to help raise them in your absence. Absolute stupidity on display.

Dude could probably have punched a ticket on Telemundo covering boxing, MMA, or sports in general. Nope. Cop a First Degree Attempted Murder charge instead. SMH.......

Imagine having your niece or daughter rapped and actually think straight.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

The problem is Cain shot into a vehicle and the wrong person got shot. Also you have to factor in stray bullets that could have hit someone in the area. Just by those facts the judge could rule he is a danger to public.

You're posting this as if I don't already know it.

And you've missed the times I've posted that career criminals get bail for far worse crimes and are undeniably a far worse 'danger to the community.'

Oh, and Cain has no serious criminal record.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Its excessive, plain and simple.

As for the excuse Cain is 'a danger to the community' that's bullshit. He was a danger to one member of the community, while the phile is a danger to every child of the community, yet he got bail. (Haven't heard if its the same judge in both cases)

And its an amazing that the one time a 'social justice' judge is being tough on crime is when the targeted victim was a phile.

lol What in the actual fuck, man.
This is such a ridiculous stretch that it's honestly pretty gross to say. Being an "SJW" has fuck all to do with philia. Who is pro ?

People need to learn how to separate things out when we're talking about crimes like this.
It's the same argument when we see a cop do something wrong or illegal to a criminal/ex-convict---that because this guy is/was a bad guy, he deserves what he got, and we should overlook the illegal actions of the cop.

We can't have people just taking the law into their own hands and killing people. The case now isn't about the , now it's about Cain.
He didn't just go after the guy, he shot someone else. Premeditated murder, and he put the lives of other people in danger.
The guy accused of philia gets his day in court. We saw plainly what Cain did.
Would you like people to get bullets before they're able to prove their innocence?

 

[Ichibanner]

If we are taking about a 10 year old I agree that it's sickening. But if we are talking about a 14 to 17 year old teenage boy this is someone with a raging hard on who probably initiated the encounter. I remember being that age. I would have smashed anything that moved and discussion of which teacher we wanted to bang was commonplace in the locker room. I think that's why the disparity exists. The people making the laws are mostly men and they remember being teenagers.

I remember being that age, but, legal adults who can vote, smoke, drink, hold jobs, pay taxes, and are criminally responsible for their actions shouldn't be getting sexual satisfaction from those who aren't yet old enough to do those things and are most likely incapable of caring for a child or having the emotional maturity to understand being in a sexual relationship.

That's not to mention the imbalance in power between adults (especially educators, LEO, or caregivers) and minors which overwhelmingly favors adults and enables them to continue abuse.

Was I locked and loaded and physically able to have sex from my very first boner? Sure. Would I have the admiration from my peers if I was nailing the hottie recent Penn State grad that was my English teacher from grades 6 thru 8th? Hell yeah. Did I have the emotional maturity to deal with such a relationship or deal with the fallout of possibly getting an STD from a trusted adult or material means to help raise a kid? No.

For those reasons and the law itself we shouldn't draw distinction between girls being "victims" and boys being "heroes" when adults use them as sexual playthings.

 

[pakimahi]

You don't know me, nor do you know my situation nor Cain's for that matter.

Was it one of Cain's children that was the victim? Did he accomplish his goal? Was it worth it? Is he currently able to hold and comfort the victim from his cell?

I don't blame the parent of a victim for wanting to beat or kill the person who harmed their child. However, grabbing a gun, chasing down a vehicle, firing will-nilly into it, and injuring someone who wasn't your target? No, you don't get a pass to act in a careless, criminal, and potentially deadly manner.

That's right I don't know you, but your comment ozzes of someone that isn't a parent. I don't think anyone is claiming what he did was logical. But any man that fathered a kid, and has a had a relationship with his kid, can damn sure understand. This is a "crime" of passion times 10. As for the scumbags step dad that's a 'Casualty of war' , hell he is still alive. You associate with a piece of shit, then you should expect some heat. Should be a much lesser charge.

If you are looking to blame someone, its the shitty legal system, and those two scumb bag judges who let the let the go and kept Cain